I prefer the conspiracy theory of the WAC adding these schools:

UMass
UConn
Temple
Marshall
James Madison
Delaware
Liberty





Just because it says "Western" doesn't confine it to the west, you know...

(05-28-2020 09:30 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  I prefer the conspiracy theory of the WAC adding these schools:

UMass
UConn
Temple
Marshall
James Madison
Delaware
Liberty

Just because it says "Western" doesn't confine it to the west, you know...

What's great about putting Marshall in there is it reconciles it's three conflicting desires to play games in the region, to play in Florida every year and to play in a conference that excites their fanbase by choosing to fall well short on all three goals at the same time.

(05-11-2020 10:42 AM)Hammersmith Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 10:15 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The great moderator shows how wrong and misleading he is. Liberty made the FBS invite rule different as it didn't need an invite. Corrected you many times, but refuse to accept.

Liberty was a unique situation because they were able to argue religious discrimination was keeping them out of FBS. That's not going to apply to many others, and the NCAA didn't change the rules, they just gave Liberty a waiver.

And how's that UTRGV thing working out?

I wonder if Augustana plans to use that to move up to D1??

(05-28-2020 09:30 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  I prefer the conspiracy theory of the WAC adding these schools:

UMass
UConn
Temple
Marshall
James Madison
Delaware
Liberty

Just because it says "Western" doesn't confine it to the west, you know...

Liberty would've been a great add 2-3 years ago, but at this point they've solidified their future scheduling so much that going to a zombie WAC conference would probably be a downgrade.

UConn will likely be in the same boat as well, and they have P5 schools willing to travel to them.

Umass could probably be convinced for a football only sort of deal.

But the key, if in fact this is a plan or a desire to do so, I think will be getting a few FCS programs to move up as independents first (NDSU and SDSU are the obviously two) and the together with NMSU they start moving up FCS Independent members that are already in the WAC to form a conference.

The far more likely solution would just be NMSU just leaves and either enough California/Texas D2 programs move up and they form an FCS conference or the WAC disbands entirely

WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

(05-28-2020 09:30 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  I prefer the conspiracy theory of the WAC adding these schools:

UMass
UConn
Temple
Marshall
James Madison
Delaware
Liberty





Just because it says "Western" doesn't confine it to the west, you know...

Right, they can change the name to the Weak Ass Conference.

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

They wanted it in 2009 but are absolutely unprepared for the move.

(05-28-2020 09:30 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  I prefer the conspiracy theory of the WAC adding these schools:

UMass
UConn
Temple
Marshall
James Madison
Delaware
Liberty





Just because it says "Western" doesn't confine it to the west, you know...

Everywhere is west of somewhere

(05-29-2020 09:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  But the key, if in fact this is a plan or a desire to do so, I think will be getting a few FCS programs to move up as independents first (NDSU and SDSU are the obviously two)

If they can do that, what do they need the dumpster-fire Chicago State / Cal Baptist / Division 2 callups / UT - Basically MExico / Grand Canyon WAC for? The whole premise is to use the WAC's special status as a former FBS league as a back-door into FBS. If you can go FBS as an independent, what's the point?

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

If I was the WAC commissioner I'd go for West Texas A&M and Lamar to go to 11 (with the possibility that Chicago St could drop sports any day now).

(05-29-2020 10:03 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  But the key, if in fact this is a plan or a desire to do so, I think will be getting a few FCS programs to move up as independents first (NDSU and SDSU are the obviously two)

If they can do that, what do they need the dumpster-fire Chicago State / Cal Baptist / Division 2 callups / UT - Basically MExico / Grand Canyon WAC for? The whole premise is to use the WAC's special status as a former FBS league as a back-door into FBS. If you can go FBS as an independent, what's the point?

True. I just can't get past the hurdle of how they move up 7 FCS schools at once and somehow keep FBS status as conference. Maybe they can get away with it but the far more likely solution is no they cannot and they'll just go FCS at some point.

Strange that they're leaving the announcement for so late in the day. It's almost 5 PM in Montana.

I could see the eight full member rule changing .
It used to be seven not sure if it used to be something less before that.
There our soccer conferences with three members and five affiliates.
I could see the WAC getting to four full FBS members and four or more affiliates.
Montana St
Montana
Idaho FCS has been a disaster so far
NMSU

Affiliates
U Mass
Liberty
NDSU
SDSU
UNI

Adding more teams later.

(05-29-2020 09:53 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

They wanted it in 2009 but are absolutely unprepared for the move.

This has been explained to him many times and he refuses to accept.

(05-29-2020 11:28 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

If I was the WAC commissioner I'd go for West Texas A&M and Lamar to go to 11 (with the possibility that Chicago St could drop sports any day now).

WT would be a good FCS add. Why would Lamar (a school less than an hour from Louisiana) bail on the Southland (a conference filled with East Texas and Louisiana schools) to go the WAC?

Abilene Christian makes more sense

(05-29-2020 08:42 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:28 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

If I was the WAC commissioner I'd go for West Texas A&M and Lamar to go to 11 (with the possibility that Chicago St could drop sports any day now).

WT would be a good FCS add. Why would Lamar (a school less than an hour from Louisiana) bail on the Southland (a conference filled with East Texas and Louisiana schools) to go the WAC?

Abilene Christian makes more sense

Because the WAC is D1.

But WT is a former D1 school so there is some prestige there

(05-29-2020 09:20 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 08:42 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:28 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

If I was the WAC commissioner I'd go for West Texas A&M and Lamar to go to 11 (with the possibility that Chicago St could drop sports any day now).

WT would be a good FCS add. Why would Lamar (a school less than an hour from Louisiana) bail on the Southland (a conference filled with East Texas and Louisiana schools) to go the WAC?

Abilene Christian makes more sense

Because the WAC is D1.

But WT is a former D1 school so there is some prestige there

Lamar is already DI.

(05-29-2020 06:50 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:53 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

They wanted it in 2009 but are absolutely unprepared for the move.

This has been explained to him many times and he refuses to accept.

Lamar have been ready for FBS right now. Adding now for them to upgrade to FBS as an Independent would be a head start for the WAC to be FBS again. They already have scheduling TEXAS FBS schools already.

(05-29-2020 10:02 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Everywhere is west of somewhere

I remember when they were building a Big East that was restricted to schools East of Reno ...

... so "West" as in "West of Boston" would only be following that precedent.

I reckon it would also follow the other precedent, of collapsing before it even started when it was tried.

(05-29-2020 09:49 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:20 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 08:42 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:28 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:41 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC should extend an inite to Lamar since they wanted FBS. It would be a start.

If I was the WAC commissioner I'd go for West Texas A&M and Lamar to go to 11 (with the possibility that Chicago St could drop sports any day now).

WT would be a good FCS add. Why would Lamar (a school less than an hour from Louisiana) bail on the Southland (a conference filled with East Texas and Louisiana schools) to go the WAC?

Abilene Christian makes more sense

Because the WAC is D1.

But WT is a former D1 school so there is some prestige there

Lamar is already DI.

My mistake