There’s zero justification for hunting him down. I understand pulling the trigger for defense once you begin to get your as$ beat. However, they shouldnt have been out looking for him. You murdered somebody that you could’ve let the police handle if you suspected him of anything. They got charged as they should have and should serve time up through the beginning of the trial.

What I don’t get is why National media always get their hands on the tape at the most opportune times.

The next story they are trying to push is of Sean Reed.

Skipped over the white girl being murdered by five black teenagers. Reverse the roles. It’s headline news.

Skipped over the security guard getting murdered for asking a few folks to wear face masks. reverse the roles, it’s headlines news.

All terrible incidents, but Main stream media picks and chooses what will stir up race wars without any facts and it’s always done when the Dems are getting destroyed in the public spotlight.

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

Reverse black and white and we’d probably have had day 1 in court by now.

Even the guys who did it (or at least the one on the police report) say that he tried to run away on their first attempt. So his first thought wasn’t to take the gun. But when he was sure that these guys were absolutely going to shoot him, he went for it, which isn’t a horrible decision based off of what law enforcement teaches these days.

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

Except the guns didn't blaze until he charged. They may certainly be guilty and we shall find out shortly. Until then pontificating serves no good purpose.

By the way when the killer of the woman pushing the baby carriage in Brunswick was arrested the same cry went out about racism. The court found that guy guilty in spite of the public outcry. Let's trust this one to seek the truth as well.

So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Do you want the stats on murder by race?

I’m very much an advocate of standing your ground, but standing your ground doesn’t (or shouldn’t) include the creation of the situation.

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Satilla Shores is almost 30% Hispanic. What if two Hispanic men had done the same? The truth will out. It's stupid to get worked up over something until you know all of the facts and justice has failed. Your story changes slightly with every post. Guns Blazing, profiled? They claimed to have recognized him from surveillance video or haven't you read the thread? Guns Blazing changed to guns drawn.

Try being Joe Friday, "Nothing but the facts Ma'am."

(05-08-2020 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Do you want the stats on murder by race?

In the relevant case it’s 2 white guys killing 1 black guy. Only stats we need.

(05-08-2020 05:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Satilla Shores is almost 30% Hispanic. What if two Hispanic men had done the same? The truth will out. It's stupid to get worked up over something until you know all of the facts and justice has failed. Your story changes slightly with every post. Guns Blazing, profiled? They claimed to have recognized him from surveillance video or haven't you read the thread? Guns Blazing changed to guns drawn.

Try being Joe Friday, "Nothing but the facts Ma'am."

What if two Hispanic men had done the same? It most definitely wouldn’t have made national news. It also probably wouldn’t have needed to because they would’ve at least been truly investigated. With this case, it was the DA’s aim that this doesn’t get investigated and NONE of the facts would’ve ever seen the light of day if this video never came out.

Which is the greater miscarriage of justice, some guys giving an opinion on a message board or those two never being investigated?

(05-08-2020 04:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

Except the guns didn't blaze until he charged. They may certainly be guilty and we shall find out shortly. Until then pontificating serves no good purpose.

By the way when the killer of the woman pushing the baby carriage in Brunswick was arrested the same cry went out about racism. The court found that guy guilty in spite of the public outcry. Let's trust this one to seek the truth as well.

So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

Draw attention to myself ?! LOL OKAY.

Fact: they stopped him
Fact: they had guns out
Fact: their actions led to a man's death

My opinion: racially driven action carried out by morons

Sorry my idea of a bunch of h(z)eroes, some tough guys showing heat, is different than your definition of guns blazing.

(05-08-2020 05:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Do you want the stats on murder by race?

In the relevant case it’s 2 white guys killing 1 black guy. Only stats we need.

It's relevant to why this is a huge story and the others are not and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial. See how that works.

(05-08-2020 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Anyone can decry all they want about what he should or should not have done... but until you are a black man, in America, jogging through a neighborhood, and 2 white men stop you, guns blazing, out of nowhere, you have no idea how one would or should react.

To blame the victim here is gross.

Except the guns didn't blaze until he charged. They may certainly be guilty and we shall find out shortly. Until then pontificating serves no good purpose.

By the way when the killer of the woman pushing the baby carriage in Brunswick was arrested the same cry went out about racism. The court found that guy guilty in spite of the public outcry. Let's trust this one to seek the truth as well.

So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

Draw attention to myself ?! LOL OKAY.

Fact: they stopped him
Fact: they had guns out
Fact: their actions led to a man's death

My opinion: racially driven action carried out by morons

Sorry my idea of a bunch of h(z)eroes, some tough guys showing heat, is different than your definition of guns blazing.

You sir are a liar. You can't stick to the same story in 3 straight posts. Things are what they are. Two men pursued another on suspicion of break ins due to a surveillance film (their claim in the police report) When pursued and cut off by another vehicle the one jogging away turned a ran towards the two guys who had gotten out with firearms. Nobody fired until a struggle broke out over the shotgun and old 2 triggered side by side at that. Not a pump. (all on video).

Stick to the facts. Nobody called them heroes (you did). Nobody said they got out guns blazing (you did). Nothing even showed any of that. And a court will decide the rest. When that ruling is in feel free to celebrate or gripe all you want. Otherwise I consider you to be trolling for attention plain and simple.

And its your damned definition of guns blazing, not mine, as I never said they were blazing you did.

(05-08-2020 05:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Except the guns didn't blaze until he charged. They may certainly be guilty and we shall find out shortly. Until then pontificating serves no good purpose.

By the way when the killer of the woman pushing the baby carriage in Brunswick was arrested the same cry went out about racism. The court found that guy guilty in spite of the public outcry. Let's trust this one to seek the truth as well.

So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

Draw attention to myself ?! LOL OKAY.

Fact: they stopped him
Fact: they had guns out
Fact: their actions led to a man's death

My opinion: racially driven action carried out by morons

Sorry my idea of a bunch of h(z)eroes, some tough guys showing heat, is different than your definition of guns blazing.

You sir are a liar. You can't stick to the same story in 3 straight posts. Things are what they are. Two men pursued another on suspicion of break ins due to a surveillance film (their claim in the police report) When pursued and cut off by another vehicle the one jogging away turned a ran towards the two guys who had gotten out with firearms. Nobody fired until a struggle broke out over the shotgun and old 2 triggered side by side at that. Not a pump. (all on video).

Stick to the facts. Nobody called them heroes (you did). Nobody said they got out guns blazing (you did). Nothing even showed any of that. And a court will decide the rest. When that ruling is in feel free to celebrate or gripe all you want. Otherwise I consider you to be trolling for attention plain and simple.

And its your damned definition of guns blazing, not mine, as I never said they were blazing you did.

Regardless of where you fall, could you imagine the reaction from usmbacker and the crimson guy if it was 3 black guys making a citizens arrest on a white? Man they'd have the whole front page filled up!

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(05-08-2020 05:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Except the guns didn't blaze until he charged. They may certainly be guilty and we shall find out shortly. Until then pontificating serves no good purpose.

By the way when the killer of the woman pushing the baby carriage in Brunswick was arrested the same cry went out about racism. The court found that guy guilty in spite of the public outcry. Let's trust this one to seek the truth as well.

So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

Draw attention to myself ?! LOL OKAY.

Fact: they stopped him
Fact: they had guns out
Fact: their actions led to a man's death

My opinion: racially driven action carried out by morons

Sorry my idea of a bunch of h(z)eroes, some tough guys showing heat, is different than your definition of guns blazing.

You sir are a liar. You can't stick to the same story in 3 straight posts. Things are what they are. Two men pursued another on suspicion of break ins due to a surveillance film (their claim in the police report) When pursued and cut off by another vehicle the one jogging away turned a ran towards the two guys who had gotten out with firearms. Nobody fired until a struggle broke out over the shotgun and old 2 triggered side by side at that. Not a pump. (all on video).

Stick to the facts. Nobody called them heroes (you did). Nobody said they got out guns blazing (you did). Nothing even showed any of that. And a court will decide the rest. When that ruling is in feel free to celebrate or gripe all you want. Otherwise I consider you to be trolling for attention plain and simple.

And its your damned definition of guns blazing, not mine, as I never said they were blazing you did.

I believe I insinuated they likely thought themselves heroes and then posited that I thought they were zeroes. Calling me a liar? OKAY.

They got with guns out. I stand by that they came out guns blazing. If your definition of flashing firearms is different, good for you.

Calling me a liar, calling me a troll. Smh.

(05-08-2020 05:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 05:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What's gross and obscene is seeing it through race. Reverse black and white in your example. You dont think that doesnt happen. As long as it's about race then we will never move past race.

And yes, you dont try to take a gun from an armed person pointing it at you ever. Period. I don't care what color you are. Dont. Seriously. I like you :)

2 white guys profiled a jogging black man as a threatening criminal, and deemed him worthy of stopping at gun point. Race is very at play here. Your head is in the sand or in denial.

Do you want the stats on murder by race?

In the relevant case it’s 2 white guys killing 1 black guy. Only stats we need.

It's relevant to why this is a huge story and the others are not and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial. See how that works.

Cool. Let’s just hope justice is served at the end and that this being big news ends up being worth it.

(05-08-2020 05:24 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 05:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 04:43 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  So their guns weren't pulled out until after he charged at them? Cite that please.

JD you have pushed my limit on this one. Any fool with eyes can see what happened. Yet you said they 2 white guys got out "guns blazing". That's not what happened. They didn't point the guns or fire until the situation escalated. The legal question here is whether they had the right to accost Arbery. If they didn't it is at least manslaughter.

But don't go altering the situation to draw attention to yourself or to exacerbate a situation by insinuating things that obviously and verifiably didn't happen. And in the post of yours I'm citing you are already walking back the asinine statement you made in the first.

Draw attention to myself ?! LOL OKAY.

Fact: they stopped him
Fact: they had guns out
Fact: their actions led to a man's death

My opinion: racially driven action carried out by morons

Sorry my idea of a bunch of h(z)eroes, some tough guys showing heat, is different than your definition of guns blazing.

You sir are a liar. You can't stick to the same story in 3 straight posts. Things are what they are. Two men pursued another on suspicion of break ins due to a surveillance film (their claim in the police report) When pursued and cut off by another vehicle the one jogging away turned a ran towards the two guys who had gotten out with firearms. Nobody fired until a struggle broke out over the shotgun and old 2 triggered side by side at that. Not a pump. (all on video).

Stick to the facts. Nobody called them heroes (you did). Nobody said they got out guns blazing (you did). Nothing even showed any of that. And a court will decide the rest. When that ruling is in feel free to celebrate or gripe all you want. Otherwise I consider you to be trolling for attention plain and simple.

And its your damned definition of guns blazing, not mine, as I never said they were blazing you did.

I believe I insinuated they likely thought themselves heroes and then posited that I thought they were zeroes. Calling me a liar? OKAY.

They got with guns out. I stand by that they came out guns blazing. If your definition of flashing firearms is different, good for you.

Calling me a liar, calling me a troll. Smh.

Shake your head all you want to J.D. The truth is there in print in the posts exchanged. And it is a pattern consistent with many of your run ins with people on this board. You inject words into the discussion that nobody else has used and then project their usage onto other posters to set up what you wish to say next. The board is free to read and decide who is telling the truth here and who is not. It's an old debate ploy and has nothing to do with truth but seeks to play upon emotions evoked from the verbiage used. Its intent is to deceive by shifting focus from fact to feeling and it's bad form on a message board because it derails the topics.

Anyone else go for a #IRunWithMaud 2.23 miles today? Mine was fantastic. Well, aside from the fact I found running in cargo shorts to not be very comfortable, but obviously the least comforting part was not wearing actual running shoes. Due to all that jogging discomfort, who knows... I probably would’ve reacted wildly to if approached by strangers with a shotgun.


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(05-08-2020 04:48 PM)BlazinBham Wrote:  There’s zero justification for hunting him down. I understand pulling the trigger for defense once you begin to get your as$ beat. However, they shouldnt have been out looking for him. You murdered somebody that you could’ve let the police handle if you suspected him of anything. They got charged as they should have and should serve time up through the beginning of the trial.

What I don’t get is why National media always get their hands on the tape at the most opportune times.

The next story they are trying to push is of Sean Reed.

Skipped over the white girl being murdered by five black teenagers. Reverse the roles. It’s headline news.

Skipped over the security guard getting murdered for asking a few folks to wear face masks. reverse the roles, it’s headlines news.

All terrible incidents, but Main stream media picks and chooses what will stir up race wars without any facts and it’s always done when the Dems are getting destroyed in the public spotlight.

Yep. This is a smoke screen to take pressure off of Biden and get his base fired up again. This would get two minutes in the local news if the races were reversed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/us/ahmaud...index.html

The family's legal position - "The decision to rely on the citizen's arrest statute is really a recent invention. Prior to that, they just simply said it was self-defense," the Arbery family attorney added. "Ahmaud stopped by a house that was under construction and he looked through the window. We don't know if that happened or not, but even if that did happen, that is not a felony that would invoke the citizen's arrest statute."

This article also mentions the house under construction and how the owner of that house stated that $2500 in fishing tackle from the garage was stolen from from the site. No police report was filed for this. The owner of the house also mentioned video of what I believe is the victim near the house under construction.

Per the article:
The man walked by the garage and down to a dock on the Little Satilla River, the motion-triggered cameras show, according to the homeowner. Asked whether they showed the man stealing or committing any other crime, he said they show him "trespassing."
He declined to share them with CNN and spoke on the condition of anonymity because he says he's been receiving death threats.