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(04-20-2020 06:47 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Tennessee has almost twice as many traffic fatalities as corona virus deaths in 2020. Using liberal logic, let’s make driving cars in Tennessee illegal

I’m all for reopening businesses and am glad the governor is letting the stay at home order expire. At least now local leaders can decide when its best for their area to begin reopening.

But statements comparing annual traffic deaths to deaths from COVID-19 over a 4-6 week period is absurd. Set aside the differences in time period- 6 weeks compared to 52- and consider the rapid rate of increase in transmission. There is a reason why things that spread quickly and at exponential rates are referred to as “going viral”. One of the things in you comparison is literally going viral. The other is not.
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Bad idea to do this so soon - I think in 2 more weeks they would have been in a better position to start slowly opening some stuff. I'm glad that the larger cities will not have to follow this - of course, Memphis & Nashville hospitals will now be taking an influx of cases from the rural counties when this thing spikes.
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(04-20-2020 04:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I had planned to be in Gatlinburg the end of May, I just think too many tourists from too many states is a recipe for COVID19 hotspot. Going to pass on a vacation for now. 05-nono

I rented a cabin for my stag party in Gatlinburg the last weekend in May (made the reservation back in January). I've still got a week or so to cancel and get a refund but I've been holding off as long as I could.

I drove through Pigeon Forge last weekend. The shows are planning to reopen the first week in May.
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I may just head to Clingman's Dome and call it a day. Just be nice to get outside.
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(04-21-2020 10:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I had planned to be in Gatlinburg the end of May, I just think too many tourists from too many states is a recipe for COVID19 hotspot. Going to pass on a vacation for now. 05-nono

I rented a cabin for my stag party in Gatlinburg the last weekend in May (made the reservation back in January). I've still got a week or so to cancel and get a refund but I've been holding off as long as I could.

I drove through Pigeon Forge last weekend. The shows are planning to reopen the first week in May.

Memphis had 50 new cases today. Where should they be at before reopening? I would like a number in your opinion. Also, as testing ramps up, still only about 9% of those tested actually have this virus, and the only ones being tested are those with symptoms. Seems to me we are headed the right way.
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(04-20-2020 08:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:16 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 03:50 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  it does not apply to Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville.

good.

Again, stay home if you want, there are some people who want/need to work though. It’ll apply here soon.

you are in fact 'SAFER at home' though. I'm fine with say Wayne County with it's 2 positive cases reopening as normal...but Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville have FAR higher numbers and should still take precautions IMHO. That doesn't mean you're locked away in your home or something. Mess around in the garden, watch a good movie, apply for your 600 a week and get that trump check.


Other than messing around in the garden....

everything you said is exactly "being locked in your home, or something"
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Again...the purpose of the shelter in place orders was never about stopping the virus, but slowing the initial spread of the virus so our hospitals would not be overwhelmed...guess what, we succeeded, and by a long shot. In fact we seemingly had way more beds than necessary...so either we crushed it or the need wasn't quite as awful as we were told.

So at some point, we have to go back to work or the cure will be worse for us all than the disease. In fact, I read an article recently that said more people were dying from suicide in TN than from Corona.
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(04-21-2020 10:04 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  of course, Memphis & Nashville hospitals will now be taking an influx of cases from the rural counties when this thing spikes.

Really, despite the fact that about 20 percent of the counties in the country have no confirmed cases? I'm currently sitting in a state that never shut down. You know how many cases my rural county had? 2. 1 active and 1 cleared. How many of those cases needed hospitilization from a "big city"? ZERO. We never shut down, and we never overran the medical facilities anywhere.

The issue some states have had is when the residents of NY/NJ tried to escape the idiot leadership up there, and tried to leave their hotspot and go to an area/state that was still open. Sorry, you voted for that incompetant tyannical leadership, you need to live under it. This is the exact OPPOSITE of rural counties overrunning a city's hospital.
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(04-21-2020 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:16 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 03:50 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  it does not apply to Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville.

good.

Again, stay home if you want, there are some people who want/need to work though. It’ll apply here soon.

you are in fact 'SAFER at home' though. I'm fine with say Wayne County with it's 2 positive cases reopening as normal...but Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville have FAR higher numbers and should still take precautions IMHO. That doesn't mean you're locked away in your home or something. Mess around in the garden, watch a good movie, apply for your 600 a week and get that trump check.


Other than messing around in the garden....

everything you said is exactly "being locked in your home, or something"

you can still go walk up and down the street out in the sun, get some vitamin D as long as you stay 6 feet from other people.

Starving off a virus isn’t supposed to be fun time.
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(04-21-2020 11:04 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 10:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I had planned to be in Gatlinburg the end of May, I just think too many tourists from too many states is a recipe for COVID19 hotspot. Going to pass on a vacation for now. 05-nono

I rented a cabin for my stag party in Gatlinburg the last weekend in May (made the reservation back in January). I've still got a week or so to cancel and get a refund but I've been holding off as long as I could.

I drove through Pigeon Forge last weekend. The shows are planning to reopen the first week in May.

Memphis had 50 new cases today. Where should they be at before reopening? I would like a number in your opinion. Also, as testing ramps up, still only about 9% of those tested actually have this virus, and the only ones being tested are those with symptoms. Seems to me we are headed the right way.

I’d be more interested in what Dr Jain thinks about reopening...
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(04-21-2020 01:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 11:04 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 10:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 04:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I had planned to be in Gatlinburg the end of May, I just think too many tourists from too many states is a recipe for COVID19 hotspot. Going to pass on a vacation for now. 05-nono

I rented a cabin for my stag party in Gatlinburg the last weekend in May (made the reservation back in January). I've still got a week or so to cancel and get a refund but I've been holding off as long as I could.

I drove through Pigeon Forge last weekend. The shows are planning to reopen the first week in May.

Memphis had 50 new cases today. Where should they be at before reopening? I would like a number in your opinion. Also, as testing ramps up, still only about 9% of those tested actually have this virus, and the only ones being tested are those with symptoms. Seems to me we are headed the right way.

I’d be more interested in what Dr Jain thinks about reopening...

I wouldnt, because he keeps citing that Vandy model that's way out in left field about our peak being in June.
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We open in May!
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Tennessee has a better Auburn alum governor than Alabama.
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(04-20-2020 08:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:16 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 08:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-20-2020 03:50 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  it does not apply to Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville.

good.

Again, stay home if you want, there are some people who want/need to work though. It’ll apply here soon.

you are in fact 'SAFER at home' though. I'm fine with say Wayne County with it's 2 positive cases reopening as normal...but Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville have FAR higher numbers and should still take precautions IMHO. That doesn't mean you're locked away in your home or something. Mess around in the garden, watch a good movie, apply for your 600 a week and get that trump check.

That's not a proven fact.

Initially we were told 6 ft distancing. Now it can be up to 27 ft.

We were told to wear masks then not to wear masks.

We were told to sanitize items coming into the home but now we're told that may not actually work.

We were told staying at home would flatten the curve. But we also know that it compromises the herd immunity factor.

Quarantines are designed to keep INFECTED people out of the general population.

What amazes me is the number of people who've died from this virus who didn't need to die. I'm shocked to learn that as several states were trying to clear hospital room space for "potential" patients they were discharging nursing home patients and REQUIRED nursing homes to take COVID-positive patients.

Nursing homes are not regulated to the same extent as hospitals. They are not equipped or staffed to handle these types of outbreaks. And given that the elderly are at greater risk of dying, governments are basically sentencing people to death.

For example, in Sumner County, TN (Gallatin): "A large portion of Sumner County's cases are linked to the Gallatin Center for Rehabilitation and Healing, which became a hot spot for the novel coronavirus."

Early on a nursing home in East Memphis was hit by an outbreak. At the time, East Memphis was listed as one of the hot spots in Shelby County.

What we don't know: are cases of COVID+ people just wandering around everywhere just waiting to infect the next person, or do outbreaks in high-density outbreaks facilities disproportionately skew things.

What we also don't know: have significantly more people had the virus that we don't know about?

Coronavirus: Santa Clara County has had 50 to 85 times more cases than we knew about, Stanford estimates

Quote:In a startling finding, new Stanford research reveals between 48,000 and 81,000 people in Santa Clara County alone may already have been infected by the coronavirus by early April — that’s 50 to 85 times more than the number of official cases at that date.

The estimate comes from a first-in-the-nation community study of newly available antibody tests that suggest how widespread the invisible — and perhaps benign — companion has been in the Bay Area’s hardest-hit county. Not only do the numbers show how the U.S.’s severe shortage of testing led to a profound undercount of COVID-19 cases, they indicate the virus is far less deadly than believed.


Let's assume the Stanford study is correct. Both you and I along with thousands of others, may have already been infected and never knew it.

Not know the severity it makes sense to take a better-safe-than-sorry approach. But in hindsight we may learn that we over-reacted way too much.
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(04-21-2020 02:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  We open in May!

Who’s we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox13me...utType=amp
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(04-21-2020 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 02:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  We open in May!

Who’s we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox13me...utType=amp

Ugh, it's in the article you posted:

Quote:Yesterday, Governor Bill Lee announced that the Stay at Home order for Tennessee will not be extended past April 30, meaning many businesses across the state can reopen on May 1.

Tennessee as a whole has met the requirements to start the first phase of President Trump’s reopening plan, however, Shelby County has not.
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Yet another shining example of why Strickland is a moron.
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(04-21-2020 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 02:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  We open in May!

Who’s we?

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Florida!

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Keep in mind that, although the mayors of the big cities are supposed to handle their own openings, if they fail to handle the situation, the governor overrides them. And if Lee doesnt step up fast enough, Trump can order them opened, because, as has been pointed out, he has total authority on this.
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(04-21-2020 05:43 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-21-2020 02:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  We open in May!

Who’s we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox13me...utType=amp
Florida!

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copy that, and good luck!
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