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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

IMO, has nothing to do with pity. However, you must realize that what one does may very negatively impact the other. This is a two way street so BOTH sides are impacted. Why pity for one and not the other? Are we choosing sides?
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

Then your solution has to include everyone, and not simply the one not paying their bills.
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-08-2020 11:20 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...neither the government nor mortgage company is going to take a Bible verse in lieu of the tax or mortgage payment when it comes due...

No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

Then your solution has to include everyone, and not simply the one not paying their bills.

I didn't come here to suggest a political solution, but only to express concern for poor people who are being put out on the streets during a pandemic. However, since you demand a solution, I have one. It's not MY solution, but... how does this sound?

Isaiah 65:17,21-25 (NIV)
17 "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.
...
21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree, so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;

for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear."


Apparently, that's the way God wanted things to be in Israel. No rental properties (they won't build for someone else to occupy). And to be clear, the Bible is NOT talking about communism, either, which attempts to enforce this behavior, but rather a world ruled by LOVE - one big, happy family. That's what God's Son said he expects of Christians on the night before he gave his life for us (John 13:1,34-35).

Don't let the world make your love grow cold (Matt 24:12); negative news stories can do that to you if you watch too much of them. Even if you can't fix everything, love your neighbors. Do what you reasonably can (while caring for your own family, of course). Pray for the rest. That's all us humans can do, anyway.
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-09-2020 07:25 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 11:20 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-06-2020 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  No, they certainly won't.

So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

Then your solution has to include everyone, and not simply the one not paying their bills.

I didn't come here to suggest a political solution, but only to express concern for poor people who are being put out on the streets during a pandemic. However, since you demand a solution, I have one. It's not MY solution, but... how does this sound?

Yes, I agree; however, this isn't a one way street in most cases. You are advocating helping one while hurting others at the same time. Where are the Christian values in that?
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-09-2020 07:26 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 07:25 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 11:20 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-07-2020 09:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  So why are you so hell bent on ensuring that there are two (or more) destitute people by insisting that landlords bear all of the burden here?

Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

Then your solution has to include everyone, and not simply the one not paying their bills.

I didn't come here to suggest a political solution, but only to express concern for poor people who are being put out on the streets during a pandemic. However, since you demand a solution, I have one. It's not MY solution, but... how does this sound?

Yes, I agree; however, this isn't a one way street in most cases. You are advocating helping one while hurting others at the same time. Where are the Christian values in that?

How does expressing pity and love hurt anyone? Does it hurt to pray for the poor?

I stated in my OP that I wasn't talking about deadbeat tenants but just folks whose own income was affected by the Coronavirus lockdown - so I'm limiting this to those who are "deserving" (if we presume to sit in judgment).

For that matter, if banks are allowing homeowners to skip up to 3 months of mortgage payments during the lockdown (most are), then how does it hurt the landlord to allow tenants to skip rent during that exact same time period?

Ought the landlord be forgiven his debt payment to the bank, but the tenant not be forgiven for his rent to the landlord? (see Matthew 18:23-35)

More to the point, I didn't ADVOCATE anything at all, except pity and mercy. If that's a crime then I guess I'll end up in jail with the other Christians when the Great Tribulation breaks out...
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RE: What's the point of evictions now?
(04-09-2020 08:43 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 07:26 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 07:25 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 11:20 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-08-2020 10:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Have you no pity at all for the family to be put out? or is it only landlords who deserve our pity? I don't want ANYONE to be destitute.

Then your solution has to include everyone, and not simply the one not paying their bills.

I didn't come here to suggest a political solution, but only to express concern for poor people who are being put out on the streets during a pandemic. However, since you demand a solution, I have one. It's not MY solution, but... how does this sound?

Yes, I agree; however, this isn't a one way street in most cases. You are advocating helping one while hurting others at the same time. Where are the Christian values in that?

How does expressing pity and love hurt anyone? Does it hurt to pray for the poor?

I stated in my OP that I wasn't talking about deadbeat tenants but just folks whose own income was affected by the Coronavirus lockdown - so I'm limiting this to those who are "deserving" (if we presume to sit in judgment).

I agree; however, limiting doesn't change the fact that you are advocating helping one while hurting another. Those don't reconcile. Best thing is for tenent/landlord to come to a mutual decision that benefits both. I have a feeling that is what is occuring in the vast majority of cases.
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