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RE: Jamarius Burton to transfer??
Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?
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(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members
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(03-13-2020 10:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members
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(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members

Okay, so same end result. He could be blocked.
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(03-13-2020 10:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members
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LOL. Slightly different circumstance. He lived with Penny for 3 years or so. And Penny wasn't the Memphis coach when Lomax signed with WSU.
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RE: Jamarius Burton to transfer??
(03-14-2020 04:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
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(03-13-2020 10:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members
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LOL. Slightly different circumstance. He lived with Penny for 3 years or so. And Penny wasn't the Memphis coach when Lomax signed with WSU.
.... You really don't have to explain the circumstances lol. Pretty the whole world knows those by now.

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RE: Jamarius Burton to transfer??
As an opposition fan, Stevenson never scared me. I was always like "go ahead and let that dude shoot" because he pretty much sucked. Yeah, he'd make one every now and then... but so can I.

I especially liked it when he tried to muscle up to Cumberland. Go on boy, take your best shot. I got the impression that Cumberland was looking at it like a Spike and Tike type situation.

He'd fit right in at Xavier with his "when I was in there we won" attitude. He better watch it though. If he acts like that in a UC-X game he may just the Kenny Freese treatment.
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RE: Jamarius Burton to transfer??
(03-14-2020 09:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 04:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 11:06 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 10:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 10:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Doesn't the AAC have a rule against intra-league transfers?

no we dont, you are free to transfer within the conference..but per regular non conference specifc transfer rules (all ncaa)...coaches can block certan schools...most coaches block conference members
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LOL. Slightly different circumstance. He lived with Penny for 3 years or so. And Penny wasn't the Memphis coach when Lomax signed with WSU.
.... You really don't have to explain the circumstances lol. Pretty the whole world knows those by now.

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It is unlikely all AAC fans frequenting the Forum remember the Lomax saga - especially to the extent of WSU and Memphis fans.
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(03-14-2020 09:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  As an opposition fan, Stevenson never scared me. I was always like "go ahead and let that dude shoot" because he pretty much sucked. Yeah, he'd make one every now and then... but so can I.

I especially liked it when he tried to muscle up to Cumberland. Go on boy, take your best shot. I got the impression that Cumberland was looking at it like a Spike and Tike type situation.

He'd fit right in at Xavier with his "when I was in there we won" attitude. He better watch it though. If he acts like that in a UC-X game he may just the Kenny Freese treatment.

uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots
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(03-14-2020 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 09:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  As an opposition fan, Stevenson never scared me. I was always like "go ahead and let that dude shoot" because he pretty much sucked. Yeah, he'd make one every now and then... but so can I.

I especially liked it when he tried to muscle up to Cumberland. Go on boy, take your best shot. I got the impression that Cumberland was looking at it like a Spike and Tike type situation.

He'd fit right in at Xavier with his "when I was in there we won" attitude. He better watch it though. If he acts like that in a UC-X game he may just the Kenny Freese treatment.

uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots
He wanted to be the star. The problem is we had too many guys that were better than him at the things he was supposed to be good at.

Dexter and Etienne are way better shooters

Burton and Sherfield were better drivers.

He was good at rebounding and defense but he gambled way too often leaving himself out of position.

It's a loss, but not an irreplaceable one. We likely end up the year with a similar record last year without him. Might have lost a couple more but won a few other ones depending on how he was playing

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(03-13-2020 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:12 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Yikes. This isn’t good. Burton was good. Going to war with Etienne and Sherfield does not seem like a recipe for success.

all 3 they lost were good... but i do like etienne and sherfield....
etienne reminds me of younger corey davis, sherfield reminds of a younger rob gray...sherfield has some maturing to do with..but once those 2 figure things out, watch out

next year will not be lock for tourney though unless the frehsman they got ends up really food

You omitted Stevenson as being good. So are you now not as high on Stevenson? Good defender, offense sub-par this past season.

Wichita State not likely to miss Burton. Appears Marshall won’t miss him. Hardly any steals. Bad turnover to steal ratio. Sub-par two-point shooter. WSU should be able to upgrade. Has good guards returning.
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(03-14-2020 10:17 AM)Miggy Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:12 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Yikes. This isn’t good. Burton was good. Going to war with Etienne and Sherfield does not seem like a recipe for success.

all 3 they lost were good... but i do like etienne and sherfield....
etienne reminds me of younger corey davis, sherfield reminds of a younger rob gray...sherfield has some maturing to do with..but once those 2 figure things out, watch out

next year will not be lock for tourney though unless the frehsman they got ends up really food

You omitted Stevenson as being good. So are you now not as high on Stevenson? Good defender, offense sub-par this past season.

Wichita State not likely to miss Burton. Hardly any steals. Bad turnover to steal ratio. Sub-par two-point shooter. WSU should be able to upgrade. Has good guards returning.
i bolde the part you mis-read..i said all 3 were good.. read my last post on this thread,,im high on him and his potential
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(03-14-2020 10:09 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 09:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  As an opposition fan, Stevenson never scared me. I was always like "go ahead and let that dude shoot" because he pretty much sucked. Yeah, he'd make one every now and then... but so can I.

I especially liked it when he tried to muscle up to Cumberland. Go on boy, take your best shot. I got the impression that Cumberland was looking at it like a Spike and Tike type situation.

He'd fit right in at Xavier with his "when I was in there we won" attitude. He better watch it though. If he acts like that in a UC-X game he may just the Kenny Freese treatment.

uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots
He wanted to be the star. The problem is we had too many guys that were better than him at the things he was supposed to be good at.

Dexter and Etienne are way better shooters

Burton and Sherfield were better drivers.

He was good at rebounding and defense but he gambled way too often leaving himself out of position.

It's a loss, but not an irreplaceable one. We likely end up the year with a similar record last year without him. Might have lost a couple more but won a few other ones depending on how he was playing

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i dont think dexter is a better shooter, i think dexter is a smarter shooter.. in an interview in the offseason dexter says this himself about stevenson being a better shooter...dexter just wouldn't try and take an off the dribble contested 3 a few feet behind the 3pt line, something erik would do

to your point he is the best at doing both between all the guards...

but i agree with you, he was self absorbed...i watched an interiew with him when he was in a slump, not an exact quote but he said he said the team wins when i play good, when i started playing bad we started struggling, and it wasnt a coincidence..his point was he had to improve...but the undertone was that he definitely considered himself the key of the team

its a loss in potential to me, i believe a matured smarter stevenson would have been extremely good...but your freshman are good so you wont collapse without him...
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(03-14-2020 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots

Houston fans often cherry pick performances to prove their point. The national average for 3 point shooting this year was 33.5%. Stevenson shot 30.4% from the 3 point line - that's ranks him tied for 5th best on his own team and well below the national average. Although obviously far from being the best shooter on the team, he attempted more 3 point shots than any other player.

So yeah, as all UC fans will agree, let him chuck it up there. Someone just needs to be ready for the long rebound. Hopefully he ends up at Xavier.
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(03-14-2020 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots

Houston fans often cherry pick performances to prove their point. The national average for 3 point shooting this year was 33.5%. Stevenson shot 30.4% from the 3 point line - that's ranks him tied for 5th best on his own team and well below the national average. Although obviously far from being the best shooter on the team, he attempted more 3 point shots than any other player.

So yeah, as all UC fans will agree, let him chuck it up there. Someone just needs to be ready for the long rebound. Hopefully he ends up at Xavier.

Cincinnati fans often cherry pick parts of the post they want to read and ignore the rest..
ill help you and bold the part you missed .. you havent watched a ton of wichita basketball if you think letting him shoot is a good idea

the way to play stevenson is to force him into a bad shot...he would still try and take it, instead of trying to find a good one

i feel comfortable saying you likely didnt watch much Wichita games this year
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(03-14-2020 10:38 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 10:32 AM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  uc fans often base how good a person is on how they played vs UC..not how he looked the full season....
he had 29 vs ole miss, 27 vs UCF. 16 oklahoma, 22 vs wvu, 19 vs south carolina.. go ahead and let him shoot is arguably the worst plan against stevenson as once he gets comfortable , youve lost

i like stevenson a lot..he is great on defense and rebounds...and has to tools to be great on offense...but he has a ton of maturing to do on and off the court...anyone who watched multiple wichita games could tell he was an emotional mess, the type of person that would let 1 bad game turn to 4...and on the court sometimes he had really bad questionable shot selections, he is a very good shooter but his percentages arent great becuase he often takes "why would you shoot that" kind of shots

Houston fans often cherry pick performances to prove their point. The national average for 3 point shooting this year was 33.5%. Stevenson shot 30.4% from the 3 point line - that's ranks him tied for 5th best on his own team and well below the national average. Although obviously far from being the best shooter on the team, he attempted more 3 point shots than any other player.

So yeah, as all UC fans will agree, let him chuck it up there. Someone just needs to be ready for the long rebound. Hopefully he ends up at Xavier.

Cincinnati fans often cherry pick parts of the post they want to read and ignore the rest..
ill help you and bold the part you missed .. you havent watched a ton of wichita basketball if you think letting him shoot is a good idea

the way to play stevenson is to force him into a bad shot...he would still try and take it, instead of trying to find a good one

i feel comfortable saying you likely didnt watch much Wichita games this year

Houston fans often ignore facts and statistics when stating their case. You said to allow the guy to shoot will lead to a loss. I proved statistically you're wrong. You say he's a good shooter and I say he is below average, and what actually happened when he played games backs me up.
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(03-13-2020 07:23 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  At least Etienne confirmed he's staying. If Sherfield and Dennis come back... We won't be the worst team in the league

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Dennis would have to leave for you guys to be worse than Temple.

Damian Dunn will be healthy
Tai Strickland will be eligible
Pretty underrated W/G class coming in

At least two grad transfers interested. One visited already and he averages 13 PPG and shoots 44.5% from 3.

A couple transfers go our way, and we should be much improved.
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(03-14-2020 10:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 10:17 AM)Miggy Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:12 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Yikes. This isn’t good. Burton was good. Going to war with Etienne and Sherfield does not seem like a recipe for success.

all 3 they lost were good... but i do like etienne and sherfield....
etienne reminds me of younger corey davis, sherfield reminds of a younger rob gray...sherfield has some maturing to do with..but once those 2 figure things out, watch out

next year will not be lock for tourney though unless the frehsman they got ends up really food

You omitted Stevenson as being good. So are you now not as high on Stevenson? Good defender, offense sub-par this past season.

Wichita State not likely to miss Burton. Hardly any steals. Bad turnover to steal ratio. Sub-par two-point shooter. WSU should be able to upgrade. Has good guards returning.
i bolde the part you mis-read..i said all 3 were good.. read my last post on this thread,,im high on him and his potential

Stevenson is not good. Turned ball over once every 10 minutes in conference play. Does’t get to the foul-line very often. Poor 2-point shooter at 43.6 percent in conference play. Sub-par conference 3-point shooter at 26.1 percent. I said last season his shooting form was poor. Saying he has “potential” is code for he’s not good now. But if you think he is, that’s fine.
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(03-14-2020 10:59 AM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Houston fans often ignore facts and statistics when stating their case. You said to allow the guy to shoot will lead to a loss. I proved statistically you're wrong. You say he's a good shooter and I say he is below average, and what actually happened when he played games backs me up.

basing who is a good shooter off percentages is foolish... in conference games last yer the top guard in 3pt% in the conference was dejon jarreau at 50%...it is crazy to say he is a good shooter if you actually watched the film...
the best shooter in the conference last year was corey davis..he wasnt top 15 in the conference in 3pt percentage and sub 40% from 3

percentages dont reflect how teams are defend, dejon was given open 3s, while everyone sold out on corey davis ..for a larger stretch of the season stevenson was wichita offense and teams were selling on stopping him...aka the #2 net team in the conference

i hate having debates on bad takes .. you guys are badly trying to argue someone isnt good
a player who within just 7 hours of being in the transfer portal is already been recruited by Florida, Arizona, Gonzaga, South Carolina, Memphis, Washington, Washington State, Xavier, Arkansas, Gonzaga, Nebraska, Creighton, Texas, USC, Utah, Seton Hall & Oregon State

im guessing you guys know more that every elite coach in the country
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(03-14-2020 11:06 AM)Miggy Wrote:  Stevenson is not good.

you guys are badly trying to argue someone isnt good
a player who within just 7 hours of being in the transfer portal is already been recruited by Florida, Arizona, Gonzaga, South Carolina, Memphis, Washington, Washington State, Xavier, Arkansas, Gonzaga, Nebraska, Creighton, Texas, USC, Utah, Seton Hall & Oregon State

im guessing you guys know more that every elite coach in the country
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