Today's inconvenient truth news:

many hospitals slow or near-empty across the country waiting for coronabug victims that never materialize

projections of 2.2 million deaths in US suddenly revised downwards to less than 100,000

new low-estimates revised downward to less than 45,000 deaths in US

average hard-working Americans forced to sit out their economic lives for something that so far in total has killed less than 4 days of abortion murders in US

W.H. O. lies to America- protects and puts forth Chines propaganda instead. Demands more money from US to fund WHO "research


...and on and on and on.

The BS needs to stop. Kids and teachers need to go back to schools, people need to go back to their jobs (if they'r3e still there) and ballplayers need to go play ball...oh, and Hilliary and Pelosi and Schumer and Cuomo need to go to prison.

https://www.live5news.com/2020/04/07/sen...nt-happen/

Quote:MUSC Health officials temporarily laid off about 900 workers and reduced pay for all salaried employees on Monday, a move that one state senator said saved the hospital millions.

“The revenue figures that I’m told, if they were to continue to operate, we’d be looking at the excess of a 100-million-dollar loss by June," state Sen. Marlon Kimpson said.

Every member of the MUSC Health team will see some impact to their pay, including a 20-percent reduction for leaders and a 15-percent reduction for salaried employees, according to a MUSC statement.

There will also be a reduction in work hours for hourly-paid employees who do not provide direct patient care.

MUSC officials emphasized that at this time, front line healthcare team members, who have already seen fewer work hours because of the COVID-19 response, will not see any additional pay cuts.

Quote:Since state officials urged hospitals to halt or significantly reduce procedures that were not urgent, MUSC officials said surgical volumes have been decreased by 75-percent, inpatient encounters decreased by 30-percent and ambulatory encounters have been reduced by 70-percent.

As a result, MUSC leaders said they are taking action to diminish financial damage by the crisis.

“My understanding is 60-or-more-percent of the revenue used for operations and to pay personnel are derived from elective surgeries,” Kimpson said.

linky: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...cle_inline

New data suggest the coronavirus isn’t as deadly as we thought

Quote:Some experts—including in these pages—have questioned this assumption. They argue that known cases are likely only a small portion of the true number of infections, and thus high case-fatality rates could be off by orders of magnitude. We don’t know what portion of infections have gone undetected for a lack of tests, restrictive qualifications to get tested, and a potentially large incidence of mild illness or asymptomatic infection.

New data support the skeptics’ view—a preliminary study by a Stanford team, released Friday. They conducted a seroprevalence study of Santa Clara County, Calif., on April 3 and 4. They studied a representative sample of 3,300 residents to test for the presence of antibodies in their blood that would show if they had previously been infected with the novel coronavirus.

Top coronavirus model significantly lowers total estimates of US deaths in new projection


Summary:
Communist China Dictatorship lied to world

Communist China Dictatorship willfully allowed coronabug to infect rest of world while willfully trying to coverup the truth

President Trump rightfully acted as quickly as current info inicated by Shutting Down travel to Communst China and soon after to europe despite howls of protest from many in "media and on left.

Nancy Pelosi and cronies willfully tried to harm more Americans by disagreeing with the President's decisions, actively sought to kill Americans by her statements and actions

WATCH the video: Nancy Pelosi urged people to congregate in Chinatown in late February

linky to Pelosi's treacherous lying and encouraging American deaths: https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1...7912881160

Quote:On February 24th, Pelosi walked through San Francisco's Chinatown with a large entourage, encouraging locals to come down and join her. Pelosi said: “Come to Chinatown. Here we are. We’re careful, safe, and come join us.” She was more concerned with virtue signalling and combating “racism” than she was with securing the safety of Americans.

Certainly president trump's response would have been bettter if not for the lies from Communist China Dictatorship and the lying "media' who encouraged him not to take the swift actions he did to actually save lives.

Maybe we could have had a more targeted response with more honest information; instead the W.H.O. led people to believe the coronabug could not be transmitted easily or between humans, and the blood of tens of thousands is on Communist China Dictatorship and W.H.O. and Pelosi and her cronies' hands (not that they care about the little people or their crumbs.)

Thank goodness we had President Trump in office, who has run businesses and knew many industry leaders personally and how to help get them to cooperate to get things done instead of some government politician idiot who would have created thousands more deaths by stalling response in big-government processes instead of turning to the private companies that President Trump did to get things done quickly. Ventilators and masks, etc... went out quickly as possible, exposing many state "governors" who willfully chose not to prepare or do much about things but complain. Trump showed leadership and his actions saved lives.

Trump's instincts for strong borders and not trusting Communist China, which he campaigned on, proved the correct truths and if more on the left had listened to him, more lives would have been saved and this crisis might have been more completely averted.

(04-04-2020 02:18 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  You can load up on veggie meat right now. Things haven't gotten that bad yet.

No, I'm not talking about normal things like beef, pork and chicken, but the bats, cats and all that 'exotic" crap that seems to be where this comes from, or breeds and transfers more readily. As for veggie "meats" and plant-based imitations, no thanks. That stuff tastes like crap and is full of chemicals way more toxic than a regular beef burger or hot dog.

Most of that fake meat is made from soy. If you keep eating that stuff you'll be talking like the male judge in Hot Bench. I swear, if you just hear the voice and don't look at your TV you'd think it was a woman speaking. Maybe he eats a lot of soy.

(04-18-2020 01:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 02:18 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  You can load up on veggie meat right now. Things haven't gotten that bad yet.

No, I'm not talking about normal things like beef, pork and chicken, but the bats, cats and all that 'exotic" crap that seems to be where this comes from, or breeds and transfers more readily. As for veggie "meats" and plant-based imitations, no thanks. That stuff tastes like crap and is full of chemicals way more toxic than a regular beef burger or hot dog.

Most of that fake meat is made from soy. If you keep eating that stuff you'll be talking like the male judge in Hot Bench. I swear, if you just hear the voice and don't look at your TV you'd think it was a woman speaking. Maybe he eats a lot of soy.

reminds me of this...

Ok, maybe its just me but isnt there a bit of irony in someone talking about a mans feminine qualities while referencing hot bench?

How about another few examples from Judge Judy and Dr Phil.

I've thought it BS since day 1 & my opinion has only grown, especially as our governor in Michigan continues to extend, extend, extend, extend.

"flatten the curve" is a joke

(05-01-2020 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought it BS since day 1 & my opinion has only grown, especially as our governor in Michigan continues to extend, extend, extend, extend.

"flatten the curve" is a joke

I'll admit it looked a little shaky there for a while, but it's clearer now we were duped by Communist China and we kinda blinked. Temporary pause to get hospitals up to speed was prudent considering Obama/Biden left us nothing to start with, but they likely could have targeted their responses even from the get-go and gotten near-same results of where we are now.

At the moment, looks like 20-25% of folks have Coronabug already, most without any symptoms at all. Also remarkable coincidence how deaths from other things have seemed to slow down while deaths wrongly attributed to Coronabug have risen. Coincidence? Methinks the double medical payout benefit has something to do with it. Greed of the Left.

(05-01-2020 03:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Ok, maybe its just me but isnt there a bit of irony in someone talking about a mans feminine qualities while referencing hot bench?

How about another few examples from Judge Judy and Dr Phil.

I assure you, I don't watch that crap. My wife is addicted to anything that has a judge, People's Court, The Hot Bench, Judge Judy, etc. I think she's a lawyer wannabe, that's what I tell her.

(05-01-2020 06:34 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought it BS since day 1 & my opinion has only grown, especially as our governor in Michigan continues to extend, extend, extend, extend.

"flatten the curve" is a joke

I'll admit it looked a little shaky there for a while, but it's clearer now we were duped by Communist China and we kinda blinked. Temporary pause to get hospitals up to speed was prudent considering Obama/Biden left us nothing to start with, but they likely could have targeted their responses even from the get-go and gotten near-same results of where we are now.

At the moment, looks like 20-25% of folks have Coronabug already, most without any symptoms at all. Also remarkable coincidence how deaths from other things have seemed to slow down while deaths wrongly attributed to Coronabug have risen. Coincidence? Methinks the double medical payout benefit has something to do with it. Greed of the Left.

Yah, I'll admit taking it serious in the beginning was correct, but it should be becoming obvious to everyone this thing isn't the Black Death reincarnated like they were originally selling us.

Notice how they keep selling 'Total Cases' as if all those are the people on their deathbed? I thought that was fishy from the beginning.

This thing's really contagious, symptomatic or a, and in the end I don't think it's going to be any worse than the pig flu.

WHO still hasn't revised their 'death rate', even though we have so much more data & science then when we did 4 months ago.

(05-01-2020 08:39 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 06:34 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought it BS since day 1 & my opinion has only grown, especially as our governor in Michigan continues to extend, extend, extend, extend.

"flatten the curve" is a joke

I'll admit it looked a little shaky there for a while, but it's clearer now we were duped by Communist China and we kinda blinked. Temporary pause to get hospitals up to speed was prudent considering Obama/Biden left us nothing to start with, but they likely could have targeted their responses even from the get-go and gotten near-same results of where we are now.

At the moment, looks like 20-25% of folks have Coronabug already, most without any symptoms at all. Also remarkable coincidence how deaths from other things have seemed to slow down while deaths wrongly attributed to Coronabug have risen. Coincidence? Methinks the double medical payout benefit has something to do with it. Greed of the Left.

Yah, I'll admit taking it serious in the beginning was correct, but it should be becoming obvious to everyone this thing isn't the Black Death reincarnated like they were originally selling us.

But Dumbocraps are still hoping...

(05-01-2020 08:46 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 08:39 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 06:34 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 05:00 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought it BS since day 1 & my opinion has only grown, especially as our governor in Michigan continues to extend, extend, extend, extend.

"flatten the curve" is a joke

I'll admit it looked a little shaky there for a while, but it's clearer now we were duped by Communist China and we kinda blinked. Temporary pause to get hospitals up to speed was prudent considering Obama/Biden left us nothing to start with, but they likely could have targeted their responses even from the get-go and gotten near-same results of where we are now.

At the moment, looks like 20-25% of folks have Coronabug already, most without any symptoms at all. Also remarkable coincidence how deaths from other things have seemed to slow down while deaths wrongly attributed to Coronabug have risen. Coincidence? Methinks the double medical payout benefit has something to do with it. Greed of the Left.

Yah, I'll admit taking it serious in the beginning was correct, but it should be becoming obvious to everyone this thing isn't the Black Death reincarnated like they were originally selling us.

But Dumbocraps are still hoping...

IMO, the bigger issue has been restriction of constitutional rights with more gubb'mint' subsidization.....

I've never seen anything like it in the 'philosophy of equity' arena....

not only am I still pissed the fk off at #pussification, I'm continually dumbfounded how the masses defined by sig line 1b) do not understand how they're arse-raping themselves....

#notPayingYourTabOfIdiocracy

I'm not so sure that case numbers really matter to the degree being pushed by the media,anymore. Plus it it pretty clear the numbers have been inflated, with only the amount of inflation in disagreement.

It seems reasonable to expect that as we go forward, now that we have the equipment and readiness and also several treatments as well as several developing vaccines, that many or even most people will eventually be exposed to this particular virus. Deaths have been going down since their peak levels, even in the states that have opened up earlier and more fully than others. It seems the riots the last several days have shown that many people, even those in the allegedly more vulnerable populations care less and less about the social distancing and are willing to engage in activities at close range or even shoulder to shoulder. Many without facemasks.

Too, no one shut their entire economies down for AIDS/HIV, which was pretty darn deadly back during its initial outbreak years and still is. There is still no vaccine for that, many people contracted it, many died, and that disease was and remains almost 100% preventable, yet no one really changed the behaviors that directly lead to infection, many people still contract it unnecessarily every year, and drug companies and vulnerable communities alike seem pretty comfortable with living with and managing that disease without social distancing that would basically end it, and spending lots of money to do so.

The sooner all states fully reopen, all sports get back on fields and all folks get back to normal the better things will be and this will be more or less over, with the exception of a small very vulnerable population, same as AIDS/HIV.

I'll agree that transmission of AIDS/HIV is somewhat different from Corona, but not entirely. Social distancing with AIDS/HIV would basically solve the problem of anyone transmitting it, wouldn't it?

One of my points is that many seem to be willing to live with the possibilities of contracting AIDS/HIV and the related deaths that may occur from it, without requiring a vaccine or an economic shutdown. In those respects, the comparisons are similar. With Corona, you still have many in the media and left-leaning government officials and political side advocating for maintaining shutdowns and severe limitations on liberty and economic sovereignty until there is a proven vaccine for Covid. In light of the diametrical opposite response of those very same groups to AIDS/HIV, where not only not shutting down, not practicing social distancing at all for AIDS/HIV, in fact heavily advocating and encouraging the very behaviors which put people directly at risk for AIDS/HIV and celebrating the same seems hypocritical at best, anti-human at worst.

The facts seem to indicate that Covid is not the plague (despite the President's hyperbole which by now everyone should know he is given to), Covid is not Anthrax or anything close to it, and Covid is not even AIDS/HIV, which just about everyone at risk and not seems fine to let coexist, whether they are in an at-risk group or not. So, why is the economy even shut down anywhere for Covid at this point? The answer very strongly seems to have to do with a disordered and wrongheaded political agenda rather than any scientific consistency in approach to problem or deadly diseases or viruses. HIV shows us the hypocrisy of that mindset once again. But the PC crowd disagrees. Wonder why? Truth appears to be they don't care a lick about deaths or vulnerable populations. It seems more about control and advancing a disordered and destructive political agenda and ideology no matter the damage, and sadly in many ways they are succeeding when few are willing to stand up and call out their BS.

The present agenda of the left hurts the constituents of the left, and they just don't seem to care. That's the definition of evil.

So... we shut down our most thriving economy ever, rioters are allowed to roam and loot freely in cities across the country, and the mask hall monitor crazies try to keep everyone in fear because of what? Only about 9,000 people have actually died from Coronabug--according to, wait for it, the CDC..you know, the ones who spread unfounded panic across the country for nothing. The CDC also admits in a footnote buried in their reports, that there is no concrete evidence that mask wearing has effectiveness against the Coronabug, which again has only actually killed about 9,000 people TOTAL!

Doctors across the country should be ashamed of themselves for hurting so many poor working people for nothing.

Take off your mask, get back to work, stop the bs and help Make America Great Again...Again!

(08-30-2020 11:54 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  So... we shut down our most thriving economy ever, rioters are allowed to roam and loot freely in cities across the country, and the mask hall monitor crazies try to keep everyone in fear because of what? Only about 9,000 people have actually died from Coronabug--according to, wait for it, the CDC..you know, the ones who spread unfounded panic across the country for nothing. The CDC also admits in a footnote buried in their reports, that there is no concrete evidence that mask wearing has effectiveness against the Coronabug, which again has only actually killed about 9,000 people TOTAL!

Doctors across the country should be ashamed of themselves for hurting so many poor working people for nothing.

Take off your mask, get back to work, stop the bs and help Make America Great Again...Again!

You either cannot read or are being willfully disingenuous if you think only 9,000 people have died from Coronavirus.

Analogy of How Covid deaths are determined....

(08-31-2020 02:24 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 11:54 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  So... we shut down our most thriving economy ever, rioters are allowed to roam and loot freely in cities across the country, and the mask hall monitor crazies try to keep everyone in fear because of what? Only about 9,000 people have actually died from Coronabug--according to, wait for it, the CDC..you know, the ones who spread unfounded panic across the country for nothing. The CDC also admits in a footnote buried in their reports, that there is no concrete evidence that mask wearing has effectiveness against the Coronabug, which again has only actually killed about 9,000 people TOTAL!

Doctors across the country should be ashamed of themselves for hurting so many poor working people for nothing.

Take off your mask, get back to work, stop the bs and help Make America Great Again...Again!

You either cannot read or are being willfully disingenuous if you think only 9,000 people have died from Coronavirus.

You either can not read or are being willfully disingenuous if you think that more than about 9,000 have died from just the coronabug.

Do people die every day? A: Yes.
Have people died during the past year? A: Yes.
Do all the deaths relate to coronabug just because they happen to have died in the time when there was a coronabug? A: No.
Would most or many of those people who actually died of other causes, but may have been exposed to coronabug have died anyway from their other conditions that actually caused their deaths? A: Yes.
Do hospitals and providers get paid-off extra money for suggesting coronabug was involved in deaths? A: Most Definitely, Yes.
Would/will severely crippling and/or shutting down the economy again and keeping ignorant people scared of the boogeyman help far-left democrats get elected and implement their anti-American agenda? A: Yes, that very much appears to be what they're betting on, along with keeping America ignorant as your response above.


The reports indicates only about 9,000 or so people actually died of just the coronabug, and the others that died had serious underlying conditions that were just as, if not usually more life-threatening than coronabug and would have caused them to die, regardless of cornabug presence or not.But...Orange Man bad, so therefore, pandemic has "killed" millions..just as CNN commands you to believe. And, I have a sale on a big bridge in a swamp you'd also be interested in.

Drain the swamp and restore journalism to the media, and science to the CDC. They should be ashamed of themselves, and probably face criminal charges for what they've done to hurt poor people in this country.

(08-31-2020 12:15 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 02:24 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 11:54 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  So... we shut down our most thriving economy ever, rioters are allowed to roam and loot freely in cities across the country, and the mask hall monitor crazies try to keep everyone in fear because of what? Only about 9,000 people have actually died from Coronabug--according to, wait for it, the CDC..you know, the ones who spread unfounded panic across the country for nothing. The CDC also admits in a footnote buried in their reports, that there is no concrete evidence that mask wearing has effectiveness against the Coronabug, which again has only actually killed about 9,000 people TOTAL!

Doctors across the country should be ashamed of themselves for hurting so many poor working people for nothing.

Take off your mask, get back to work, stop the bs and help Make America Great Again...Again!

You either cannot read or are being willfully disingenuous if you think only 9,000 people have died from Coronavirus.

You either can not read or are being willfully disingenuous if you think that more than about 9,000 have died from just the coronabug.

Do people die every day? A: Yes.
Have people died during the past year? A: Yes.
Do all the deaths relate to coronabug just because they happen to have died in the time when there was a coronabug? A: No.
Would most or many of those people who actually died of other causes, but may have been exposed to coronabug have died anyway from their other conditions that actually caused their deaths? A: Yes.
Do hospitals and providers get paid-off extra money for suggesting coronabug was involved in deaths? A: Most Definitely, Yes.
Would/will severely crippling and/or shutting down the economy again and keeping ignorant people scared of the boogeyman help far-left democrats get elected and implement their anti-American agenda? A: Yes, that very much appears to be what they're betting on, along with keeping America ignorant as your response above.


The reports indicates only about 9,000 or so people actually died of just the coronabug, and the others that died had serious underlying conditions that were just as, if not usually more life-threatening than coronabug and would have caused them to die, regardless of cornabug presence or not.But...Orange Man bad, so therefore, pandemic has "killed" millions..just as CNN commands you to believe. And, I have a sale on a big bridge in a swamp you'd also be interested in.

Drain the swamp and restore journalism to the media, and science to the CDC. They should be ashamed of themselves, and probably face criminal charges for what they've done to hurt poor people in this country.

With that 9,000, you have to understand that many of the other 161,000 would still be alive without the disease. How many? Who knows? Its not all 161,000. Maybe its only 1,000. Maybe its 100,000.

(08-31-2020 12:15 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Drain the swamp and restore journalism to the media, and science to the CDC. They should be ashamed of themselves, and probably face criminal charges for what they've done to hurt poor people in this country.

CDC and FDA totally screwed the pooch on this. They won't be punished, because circle the wagons is the law of bureaucrat-land. But we should never again rely on bureaucrats to do emergency responder jobs.