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MVP & Coach of the Year?
The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
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69topper
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
I know their overall record isn't amazing but I don't see how any one but Jackson of UTSA can win POY. He's averaging more than 28 points a game in conference play - when was the last time any one averaged more than that?
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
POY- Jackson from UTSA. He is basically UTSA's whole team and he has torched almost all of our schools this season. Hollingsworth and Hamlet are there too.
COTY- Probably between Stansbury who did a lot with a skeleton crew and McCasland who won the reg season after being preseason picked in the toilet.
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
Looked it up - Jackson will break Morris Almond's (of Rice) 13-year-old CUSA scoring record. He's averaging 27.3 points a game and the existing record is 26.38 points a game. In CUSA games only, he's probably not going to get the record (Jermaine Taylor of UCF averaged 29.1 points a game in 2009 - Jackson is about a point behind that average).
If you don't want to give UTSA too much credit, then I guess make Wallace a 2nd-team all-conference guy. But you have to give POY to Jackson.
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2020 07:13 AM by Fort Bend Owl.)
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
Jackson or Hamlet should be the only candidates for POY. Even though Jackson's play hasn't equated to conference success, his scoring is just plain unbelievable. Hamlet is so smooth and clutch and his play has clearly driven UNT's success. As for COY, any of Stansbury, McCasland, or Sanchez wouldn't surprise me. Many expected UNT to be decent, but nobody could have predicted them to be regular season champs. What Sanchez has done with UNCC in short order is impressive and he's recruiting extremely well. A third or fourth place finish with WKU's August 1st roster would have been nothing short of disappointing, but doing what he has done with 6 players since the Bassey injury and Cooper NCAA sham is nothing short of a miracle. Several deserving candidates.
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mturn017
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
COY: McClasland
POY: Jackson
Newcomer: Hamlett
Freshman: Young
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03-02-2020 12:43 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
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03-02-2020 12:50 PM |
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Shadow_Son
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 12:50 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
If you take out Bassey who didn't feature in a single CUSA game this season, then no. Josh Anderson was a 4 star for sure, Jordan Rawls was a 4 star but he also reclassified and should be a high school senior this season. The rest of the roster is 3 and 2 star in state guys, 2 of which we didn't even recruit out of high school. I don't think many would doubt that we may have the most talented 6 man rotation in the league, but not many teams in the country are at the top of the league with 6 players - none of which are over 6'6. After Bassey went down and Cooper got denied eligibility, almost all topper fans saw this team as a pod 2 team.
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03-02-2020 01:04 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 01:04 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote: (03-02-2020 12:50 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
If you take out Bassey who didn't feature in a single CUSA game this season, then no. Josh Anderson was a 4 star for sure, Jordan Rawls was a 4 star but he also reclassified and should be a high school senior this season. The rest of the roster is 3 and 2 star in state guys, 2 of which we didn't even recruit out of high school. I don't think many would doubt that we may have the most talented 6 man rotation in the league, but not many teams in the country are at the top of the league with 6 players - none of which are over 6'6. After Bassey went down and Cooper got denied eligibility, almost all topper fans saw this team as a pod 2 team.
So why do you only have 6 players? We lost three starters this year and have a 7 man rotation. No way Stansbury should get coach of the year.
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03-02-2020 01:15 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
Coach of the year has to be between McCasland and Sanchez. I give the advantage to McCasland because they will likely win the regular season title with a two game cushion to spare. This after being ranked 7th in the pre-season with no players on the pre-season all conference team. Sanchez deserves a serious look though for breathing life back into Charlotte basketball. Like UNT, Charlotte had no one on the pre-season all conference team and were picked to finish 12th!
Stansbury should NOT be in the mix. I would put WKU's top six players against anyone in C-USA even without Bassey.
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03-02-2020 01:43 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 01:15 PM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-02-2020 01:04 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote: (03-02-2020 12:50 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
If you take out Bassey who didn't feature in a single CUSA game this season, then no. Josh Anderson was a 4 star for sure, Jordan Rawls was a 4 star but he also reclassified and should be a high school senior this season. The rest of the roster is 3 and 2 star in state guys, 2 of which we didn't even recruit out of high school. I don't think many would doubt that we may have the most talented 6 man rotation in the league, but not many teams in the country are at the top of the league with 6 players - none of which are over 6'6. After Bassey went down and Cooper got denied eligibility, almost all topper fans saw this team as a pod 2 team.
So why do you only have 6 players? We lost three starters this year and have a 7 man rotation. No way Stansbury should get coach of the year.
Had a big we were counting on this season transfer back closer to where he is from in August. Cooper was counted on to be starting PG and his previous school David Lipscomb held his transfer of release not allowing him to be eligible this season, only kind of case like this in country where the coach left and school still held back player...Bassey of course broke his leg against Arkansas early part of Dec....We have only played around 6 guys most of the minutes, sometimes Gambrell and Cozart play a min. here or there but its mostly 6 guys playing the majority of the minutes...Some WKU fans think Stansbury should have developed more of his bench earlier in season but we have who we pretty much have at this point, 6 man rotation.....Its more than likely not going to win 3 games in 3 days, but our guys have shown a lot of fight playing who we are playing with a frontline of 6-5 and 6-4...
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 12:50 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
Three transfers… One from the OVC and two from the Horizon league. A reclassified point guard who should be a senior in high school. A 6’1, 150 pounds soaking wet 2 guard. Yes, Anderson was a 4*. Bassey hasn’t played a conference game. How’s that highly rated?
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03-02-2020 04:05 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
Not trying to stir anything up, just genuinely curious about what it means when Jordan Rawls should be a senior in high school. Did he leave HS when he was 17, after his junior year, or was he going the prep school route at 18 and get a 13th year before going to college? How did this work for him?
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03-02-2020 04:19 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 01:43 PM)WKU Topper Wrote: Coach of the year has to be between McCasland and Sanchez. I give the advantage to McCasland because they will likely win the regular season title with a two game cushion to spare. This after being ranked 7th in the pre-season with no players on the pre-season all conference team. Sanchez deserves a serious look though for breathing life back into Charlotte basketball. Like UNT, Charlotte had no one on the pre-season all conference team and were picked to finish 12th!
Stansbury should NOT be in the mix. I would put WKU's top six players against anyone in C-USA even without Bassey.
What Sanchez has done is outstanding. Charlotte hasn't been to the conference tournament the last two years and were picked to finish 12th this season. Is COTY named before or after the tournament? If after, and Charlotte gets to the Semis, then I think Sanchez might the guy. If the tournment doesn't factor in then I think we probably needed a few more road wins to show that he is the best coach in the land.
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03-02-2020 05:25 PM |
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69topper
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 01:15 PM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-02-2020 01:04 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote: (03-02-2020 12:50 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (03-01-2020 11:00 PM)69topper Wrote: (03-01-2020 10:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The regular season is about over, and the more I think of these honors, the harder it is to pick between really good options. I think the is a good case to be made of a least a few players, and at least two or three coaches. Thoughts?
For coach I would say hands down---Rick Stansbury
Nobody did more with less than him. Overcoming all the additional adversity given to him only add to the plausibility of him winning coach of the year. Not trying to be a homie but truly think he deserves it.
Don’t you guys have the highest rated players in all of CUSA?
If you take out Bassey who didn't feature in a single CUSA game this season, then no. Josh Anderson was a 4 star for sure, Jordan Rawls was a 4 star but he also reclassified and should be a high school senior this season. The rest of the roster is 3 and 2 star in state guys, 2 of which we didn't even recruit out of high school. I don't think many would doubt that we may have the most talented 6 man rotation in the league, but not many teams in the country are at the top of the league with 6 players - none of which are over 6'6. After Bassey went down and Cooper got denied eligibility, almost all topper fans saw this team as a pod 2 team.
So why do you only have 6 players? We lost three starters this year and have a 7 man rotation. No way Stansbury should get coach of the year.
I would like to see any other coach in this league have basically just 6 players and one of those missed games due injury and still put in a bid for a championship run as we did. People on here just dont like Stansbury regardless. One free throw away from possibly winning the title. I think many on here would not vote for him even if we won it. Hater's are going to hate I guess. If another coach had done what he has done this year I would vote for them. Even if it were MTSU's coach. Lol.
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 04:19 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: Not trying to stir anything up, just genuinely curious about what it means when Jordan Rawls should be a senior in high school. Did he leave HS when he was 17, after his junior year, or was he going the prep school route at 18 and get a 13th year before going to college? How did this work for him?
Yes, he “graduated” high school a year early. There have been a few that have played here the last couple of years do it. It’s a growing trend in CBB. NBA rules are why kids are doing it. 19 OR 1 year out of high school to go pro.
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03-02-2020 06:37 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
Hamlet should be POY.
Jackson is a volume shooter with 357 field goal attempts compared to Hamlet's 195.
There is a lot of difference in shooting .528 percent for Hamlet versus Jackson and Wallace at about .420.
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03-02-2020 07:58 PM |
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RE: MVP & Coach of the Year?
(03-02-2020 07:58 PM)Grandgreen Wrote: Hamlet should be POY.
Jackson is a volume shooter with 357 field goal attempts compared to Hamlet's 195.
There is a lot of difference in shooting .528 percent for Hamlet versus Jackson and Wallace at about .420.
He likely gets to the basket more though and therefore shooting higher percentage shots. Argument could certainly be made for Hamlet for POY. Hollingsworth as well.
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