(03-04-2020 11:19 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

I'm a Bernie Sanders fan too, and I get your frustration. But you can't just throw it all away just because you didn't get what you wanted. The only thing the DNC and the "establishment" is guilty of this time is clearing out some of the competition for the more moderate candidates. I believe they put pressure on Buttigieg and Klobushar to drop out prior to Super Tuesday.... but judging from yesterday's results, the votes aren't there for a left-wing candidate.

If Biden ends up with enough delegates prior to the convention, all democrats need to unite behind him, as unsavory as an idea that might be.

You'd seriously consider voting Trump over Biden? Trump would have an additional four years to put right wing judges in place all over the country, plus one or two extra supreme court justices. We all know there's a good chance RBG won't last another 4 years.... So that means we'll have a conservative dominated supreme court for a generation.... Four more years of eroding laws put in place to protect the environment. Four more years of making a fool of our country on an international stage. Four more years of pushing policies that punish our most vulnerable people living in this country? Is that worth burning it all down? Really?

Early exit polls are showing that only 13% of the people who showed up to vote yesterday were between the ages of 18-29.

Here's a breakdown of the age demographics that showed up yesterday:



Did the DNC send mercenaries to physically prevent Bernie supporters from voting? No.... unfortunately, the age group Bernie relied on to get him through this primary didn't show up yesterday for reasons that aren't the fault of the DNC.

With all that said, I still intend to cast my ballot for Bernie Sanders on April 28th in Maryland, but I'm fully prepared to support whichever candidate surpasses that 1,991 delegate threshold, whether that be Bernie or Biden. It's not all over for Sanders yet.

the msm doesn't cover that portion.....DJT's had the field day of 'field days' in that arena....and cocaine Mitch is batting 1.000% too....

stings like a biatch, Ja?

Actually an article on it. Bernie and Biden weren't too popular in Samoa:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-el...s-n1148811

"...Bloomberg won 49.9 percent of the vote, or 175 votes. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, who was born in American Samoa, received 29.3 percent, or 103 votes, and earned one delegate with 99 percent in. One of American Samoa's six delegates has yet to be awarded...."

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:01 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  We’ll see.
Joe is not Hillary... his likability numbers are much higher; and suburban women have consistently broken for the Democrats in midterms and special elections. Likewise, Democrats were lulled into a false sense of inevitability in 2016... and that won’t be the case in 2020. Beating an incumbent is always difficult, but Trump is beatable.

He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

the electoral college and the working class.....ya know, the one that means something relative to WINNING...

go climb the stairs vs. taking the elevator in your urban ponzi center....you deserve another 'workout' after pounding your soy...

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

Due to Cali and NY. The margins there don't matter. Hispanics, and Caribbeans voting for their free stuff. Reagan and Bush 1 screwed up giving amnesty to millions of illegals from mainly Mexico. They, their offspring and family members who they brought in a chain immigration turned Cali into a Dem state. Same for NY also. Open borders and free stuff for illegals is a losing position for Joe.

So Bernie can't win in the South. If he were to be the candidate (which he won't be), he'd get creamed in the election (easy Mayor Pete).

(03-04-2020 12:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  So Bernie can't win anywhere that does math, has people with earned wealth, has people who escaped communism, or doesn't have a huge supply of 20-something neo-marxists churned out by a bunch of .edu sociology departments.

FTFY

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

These nimrods slept right through 6th grade Civics class.

(03-04-2020 11:19 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

I'm a Bernie Sanders fan too, and I get your frustration. But you can't just throw it all away just because you didn't get what you wanted. The only thing the DNC and the "establishment" is guilty of this time is clearing out some of the competition for the more moderate candidates. I believe they put pressure on Buttigieg and Klobushar to drop out prior to Super Tuesday.... but judging from yesterday's results, the votes aren't there for a left-wing candidate.

If Biden ends up with enough delegates prior to the convention, all democrats need to unite behind him, as unsavory as an idea that might be.

You'd seriously consider voting Trump over Biden? Trump would have an additional four years to put right wing judges in place all over the country, plus one or two extra supreme court justices. We all know there's a good chance RBG won't last another 4 years.... So that means we'll have a conservative dominated supreme court for a generation.... Four more years of eroding laws put in place to protect the environment. Four more years of making a fool of our country on an international stage. Four more years of pushing policies that punish our most vulnerable people living in this country? Is that worth burning it all down? Really?

Early exit polls are showing that only 13% of the people who showed up to vote yesterday were between the ages of 18-29.

What policies are you referring to here? Please cite.

(03-04-2020 11:11 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:01 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 09:18 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I beg to differ.. The blue candidate will probably win big in NY, NJ, and California as per tradition the last few years.

I would venture to say it'll be a tight race in PA with Biden being a native son, but Trump will win. If it's Bernie, Trump wins no problem.

Michigan will be tight.. Wisconsin will be red no questions.

Florida will be red no questions.

We said this in 2016, this could've been the year the Dems could've charged their party with a young go getter.. There were a few.. Yang.. Mayor Pete.. Tulsi..

But the party that says rich old white men shouldn't be president has 3 rich old white men and a fake Native American in the running right now.

Buckle up Mensa.. The next 4 years are gonna be fun bud.

We’ll see.
Joe is not Hillary... his likability numbers are much higher; and suburban women have consistently broken for the Democrats in midterms and special elections. Likewise, Democrats were lulled into a false sense of inevitability in 2016... and that won’t be the case in 2020. Beating an incumbent is always difficult, but Trump is beatable.

He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities.

What is it like living in the fantasy world you live in?

Well for starters, Hillary is President there so..........

(03-04-2020 11:19 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's not Hillary, because he's senile and a far less competent candidate. Also if you think the Bernie people staying home was bad in 16 it's gonna be nightmarish this year. Hell I'm contemplating just leaning in to the madness and voting Trump, a lot more seriously than I'm contemplating Biden.

I'm a Bernie Sanders fan too, and I get your frustration. But you can't just throw it all away just because you didn't get what you wanted. The only thing the DNC and the "establishment" is guilty of this time is clearing out some of the competition for the more moderate candidates. I believe they put pressure on Buttigieg and Klobushar to drop out prior to Super Tuesday.... but judging from yesterday's results, the votes aren't there for a left-wing candidate.

If Biden ends up with enough delegates prior to the convention, all democrats need to unite behind him, as unsavory as an idea that might be.

You'd seriously consider voting Trump over Biden? Trump would have an additional four years to put right wing judges in place all over the country, plus one or two extra supreme court justices. We all know there's a good chance RBG won't last another 4 years.... So that means we'll have a conservative dominated supreme court for a generation.... Four more years of eroding laws put in place to protect the environment. Four more years of making a fool of our country on an international stage. Four more years of pushing policies that punish our most vulnerable people living in this country? Is that worth burning it all down? Really?

Early exit polls are showing that only 13% of the people who showed up to vote yesterday were between the ages of 18-29.

Here's a breakdown of the age demographics that showed up yesterday:



Did the DNC send mercenaries to physically prevent Bernie supporters from voting? No.... unfortunately, the age group Bernie relied on to get him through this primary didn't show up yesterday for reasons that aren't the fault of the DNC.

With all that said, I still intend to cast my ballot for Bernie Sanders on April 28th in Maryland, but I'm fully prepared to support whichever candidate surpasses that 1,991 delegate threshold, whether that be Bernie or Biden. It's not all over for Sanders yet.

Nope, fu*k that, fu*k the DNC, fu*k Biden, fu*k Bloomberg, fu*k Rat Pete, fu*k Tom Perez. They will get smashed and I'll enjoy watching it. I'm not laying a finger to help stop this bloodbath. Sometimes you gotta learn a hard lesson. Should have learned it after 16, they damn sure will this time.

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 10:59 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has shown, competence is not a prerequisite for holding the office, and right now, just being someone other than Trump will turn out record numbers of suburban women and minorities. The issue for Bernie is his base is not turning out in the same numbers as they did in 2016. Bernie lost Minnesota, he lost Oklahoma and he is likely to lose Maine... all states he carried in 2016... even with Michael Bloomberg peeling off moderate votes. Bernie’s best chance was 4-5 candidates vying for the middle leaving him to spar only with Warren, and that changed this week.

If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Well, in a sense Bernie has "woke" people that don't actually go out and vote. They complain like hell and attend rallies, etc but don't actually vote. So, in a sense, they have "woke the wrong mfers"

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:18 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If you really think the massive Latino base Bernie built is gonna just turn out for Biden you are in for a pretty rude awakening. If you think young people are gonna just fall in line you are crazy. Biden can't beat Trump on black vote and old people alone. Now yes if he could get the Bernie people in line he could easily win, but it's not happening.

once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I can’t believe people actually bring up the popular vote as if it is relevant to anything. If the popular vote is what ultimately decided the election, the campaigns and turnouts would be massively different.

It would be like a losing team complaining after a football game that they had more total yards so they are they better team, despite knowing beforehand that the final score is all that matters.

(03-04-2020 01:22 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I can’t believe people actually bring up the popular vote as if it is relevant to anything. If the popular vote is what ultimately decided the election, the campaigns and turnouts would be massively different.

It would be like a losing team complaining after a football game that they had more total yards so they are they better team, despite knowing beforehand that the final score is all that matters.

it's scarily dumbfounding....maybe mensa boy toy can decipher 'tits on a boar hog'..... he's got that hose flowing TTT.....

ONE AND THE SAME

(03-04-2020 01:22 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I can’t believe people actually bring up the popular vote as if it is relevant to anything. If the popular vote is what ultimately decided the election, the campaigns and turnouts would be massively different.

It would be like a losing team complaining after a football game that they had more total yards so they are they better team, despite knowing beforehand that the final score is all that matters.

Electoral votes per state are based on congressional representation which is based on population....including people illegally living in the US. They get counted. You can bet Cali, NY, NJ .....blue states with high immigration legal and illegal will gain Congressional seats after the next Census. So will Florida and Texas but more will go to blue states.

Y’all sure are sensitive to having more people vote against Trump than vote for him.

Again, the idea of this recently woke group of underemployed, high school educated, middle class white dudes is hilarious, Al Bundy lives!

(03-04-2020 01:22 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  once again, dems woke the wrong mothertruckers....it works both ways....

Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I can’t believe people actually bring up the popular vote as if it is relevant to anything. If the popular vote is what ultimately decided the election, the campaigns and turnouts would be massively different.

It would be like a losing team complaining after a football game that they had more total yards so they are they better team, despite knowing beforehand that the final score is all that matters.

The reason they cling to it is because, in their minds it reinforces the perception that HRC is who the American people really wanted for POTUS. In reality, it merely states that the people of California and New York are the people that really wanted HRC to be POTUS. For some reason, they want a couple of states to speak for the entire nation. In a common sense way, that is EXACTLY what the EC was designed to avoid and it worked perfectly.

(03-04-2020 01:47 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:22 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 12:34 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(03-04-2020 11:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump lost the popular vote so I’m not sure what the heck you’re referring. His approvals are basically the same, he trails in early polls, and is dependent on slim margins in a handful of states. Biden will fare better in the rust belt than Hillary. Joe just needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he does, he’ll win.

There is no such thing as a popular vote.

That’s understood, yet the idea of this “waking of the wrong mother truckers“ is just silly talk. More people voted for Hillary, and the difference in the election came down to roughly 100k combined votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I can’t believe people actually bring up the popular vote as if it is relevant to anything. If the popular vote is what ultimately decided the election, the campaigns and turnouts would be massively different.

It would be like a losing team complaining after a football game that they had more total yards so they are they better team, despite knowing beforehand that the final score is all that matters.

The reason they cling to it is because, in their minds it reinforces the perception that HRC is who the American people really wanted for POTUS. In reality, it merely states that the people of California and New York are the people that really wanted HRC to be POTUS. For some reason, they want a couple of states to speak for the entire nation. In a common sense way, that is EXACTLY what the EC was designed to avoid and it worked perfectly.

I will also point out that conservatives in Cali and Noo Yewrk have little reason to go to the polls, so they often don't.