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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
NCAA is a voluntary organization, that's why they won't be investigated.
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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 10:35 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Ohio State did not have a booster give money to a player. Young received money from a "family friend" who was an agent. Ohio St had no involvement so it was strictly an eligibility issue.

The "punishment" so far has been only to Wiseman and only due to HIS eligibility. The school broke a rule, the school has not yet been punished. It will come, they never move fast on things like this. Next season will be when they sanction us.

Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

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(02-17-2020 04:42 PM)griffin Wrote:  Because of the President's, ADs and Penny's decision to play Wiseman we will go into next season with some sort of serious sanctions. It has already hurt us in recruiting (we wanted the kid out of West Memphis lost him to Auburn, he was a Memphis lock prior to NCAA situation). I am hoping it will not hurt us further on recruiting but there are no positive signs coming out of the Memphis camp on recruiting right now.

Article was tough to read but it was also an accurate portrayal of what has happened. Hard to argue with the points if you look at them fairly.

Penny has given a lot and he is still only short of two years coaching experience. He has a lot to learn but he brings so much to the table.

We are not going to face major sanctions. The NCAA got what they wanted, that was Wiseman out of Memphis...

So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
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Take a postseason ban for this season and be done with it.
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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-18-2020 04:05 PM)fsquid Wrote:  NCAA is a voluntary organization, that's why they won't be investigated.

There is a difference between a non profit charity organization and a voluntary organization and the key word is profit. NCAA made estimated $800M in profits last year, with their President receiving estimated $4M of that for overseeing such.

However, both a non profit and a voluntary organization can be audited and oversight can be used in utilizing court system if things are found inconsistent or not up to standards in professional manner that they serve.

Do you believe there is complete accountability and transparency in the way the NCAA performs their duties? Total inconsistency, thus unfairness, in the way each case is handled and penalties given.

I see them pulling back the reins, down the road, due to putting a spotlight on themselves with constant disparities in how to control any given situation. Don’t believe any organization would jeopardize $800M per year by continuing to look so confused and with no road map to explain decisions on how to operate.
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(02-18-2020 04:46 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Take a postseason ban for this season and be done with it.

That's like you swearing off dating Keira Knightley.
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(02-18-2020 04:46 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Take a postseason ban for this season and be done with it.

It's worth a shot. Self imposed ban
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(02-18-2020 07:26 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:46 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Take a postseason ban for this season and be done with it.

That's like you swearing off dating Keira Knightley.

Correct and I can start 2020-21 season with a fresh slate going after Keri Russell.
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Memphis sports are a lot more fun when you ignore national media outlets. That includes Mississippi's very own GP. No one outside of Memphis is eager to have Penny/Memphis succeed. It's not a story they're looking to tell.

Don't buy the crap sports writer's are selling. Back Memphis' very own. If this amount of adversity happened to any other pre-season top 10 program, the story would be about the adversity (see UNC). Memphis doesn't get the same respect. That's ok. But I won't help them push the filth.

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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 10:35 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Ohio State did not have a booster give money to a player. Young received money from a "family friend" who was an agent. Ohio St had no involvement so it was strictly an eligibility issue.

The "punishment" so far has been only to Wiseman and only due to HIS eligibility. The school broke a rule, the school has not yet been punished. It will come, they never move fast on things like this. Next season will be when they sanction us.

Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 04:46 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  We are not going to face major sanctions. The NCAA got what they wanted, that was Wiseman out of Memphis...

So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.
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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-19-2020 11:06 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 10:35 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Ohio State did not have a booster give money to a player. Young received money from a "family friend" who was an agent. Ohio St had no involvement so it was strictly an eligibility issue.

The "punishment" so far has been only to Wiseman and only due to HIS eligibility. The school broke a rule, the school has not yet been punished. It will come, they never move fast on things like this. Next season will be when they sanction us.

Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.

Just everything you post seems that way.
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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-19-2020 11:06 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 10:35 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Ohio State did not have a booster give money to a player. Young received money from a "family friend" who was an agent. Ohio St had no involvement so it was strictly an eligibility issue.

The "punishment" so far has been only to Wiseman and only due to HIS eligibility. The school broke a rule, the school has not yet been punished. It will come, they never move fast on things like this. Next season will be when they sanction us.

Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.

The conclusions you draw from facts are illogical though.

How can you punish Penny for doing something that was not against the rules at the time? He didn't pull a Bruce Pearl and try to hide it...So he is clean there.

How can you punish the school for playing a player when they were mandated to do so by the courts? Jerry Tarkanian coached for years with an injuction against the NCAA because the NCAA mandated he be suspended...Eventually he lost the case...Guess what happened to UNLV for letting him coach NOTHING.
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(02-17-2020 03:12 PM)Poolshrk111 Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 12:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  The one thing that concerns me about this entire situation is recruiting...

I have always been an advocate of getting the best local kids...We have been allowing them to leave with our new "National" recruiting.

If Penny has now alienated the locals where does he go if the National pipeline dries up.

Well, we will find out after Mike leaves and takes Brown & Green with him.

Mike likely leaves only for a HC job. If he gets a HC job, it won't be the kind of program to sign Brown & Green. Thus, he won't be taking them with him.
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(02-17-2020 04:42 PM)griffin Wrote:  Because of the President's, ADs and Penny's decision to play Wiseman we will go into next season with some sort of serious sanctions. It has already hurt us in recruiting (we wanted the kid out of West Memphis lost him to Auburn, he was a Memphis lock prior to NCAA situation). I am hoping it will not hurt us further on recruiting but there are no positive signs coming out of the Memphis camp on recruiting right now.

Article was tough to read but it was also an accurate portrayal of what has happened. Hard to argue with the points if you look at them fairly.

Penny has given a lot and he is still only short of two years coaching experience. He has a lot to learn but he brings so much to the table.

Forde sure got his mileage out of that bit about "sanctions likely". We're still waiting though. The local media say it's been crickets with communication from the NCAA. Hard to see one of our own being so confident we will go into the season with SERIOUS sanctions. If there's anything, I'm guessing Penny has to sit out 3 games in the non-con schedule. The end.

And if you believe possible sanctions scared off a recruit to BRUCE PEARL AT AUBURN, then ... bwahahahahaha!

The article was garbage. Any coach who loses 2 of his top 3 guys is going to struggle. Memphis and Penny were no more of a flop this year, than Kerr and the GS Warriors. Thamel was a Tubby guy, who iirc called the Memphis program a "circus" when we fired Tubby and hired Penny. This is no more than an "I told you so" article that completely ignores context and any historical benchmarking.

Don't make it more than it is.
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(02-18-2020 12:23 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:51 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 11:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 04:46 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 04:42 PM)griffin Wrote:  Because of the President's, ADs and Penny's decision to play Wiseman we will go into next season with some sort of serious sanctions. It has already hurt us in recruiting (we wanted the kid out of West Memphis lost him to Auburn, he was a Memphis lock prior to NCAA situation). I am hoping it will not hurt us further on recruiting but there are no positive signs coming out of the Memphis camp on recruiting right now.

Article was tough to read but it was also an accurate portrayal of what has happened. Hard to argue with the points if you look at them fairly.

Penny has given a lot and he is still only short of two years coaching experience. He has a lot to learn but he brings so much to the table.

We are not going to face major sanctions. The NCAA got what they wanted, that was Wiseman out of Memphis...

So you are one of those who thinks the NCAA is going to say "Yes we know Memphis admitted a booster gave a recruit 11500, but hey, let's let them slide on this one. Things have been tough enough on them already, we shouldnt add to the pile." ?

No way you can truly believe that. The NCAA is going to hit us.

I don't expect them to, but we'll see. From some of the cases I remember when the amount was confirmed (for an individual player) the time sitting out and suspension served as the only punishment. When there was a denial/hiding of exchanges the program received some type of punishment. Yes I acknowledge punishments aren't the case in every situation. I think the 12-game suspension, plus him leaving will be where it stops. It also didn't help the NCAA saying that JW needed to pay the money back to a charity IMO.

Well it is two seperate instances. Wiseman was punished (not Memphis) for taking the money. Memphis has not yet been punished for giving the money.

Memphis won't be punished for giving the money, as they did not give the money. And there's no need to go back and rehash Penny's booster status, it's irrelevant. Schools don't get punished for booster activities that was totally out of their control - other than elgibility of the player (Wiseman took care of that), and possible persona non grata status (can't do that with Penny).

Memphis MAY get punished for playing an ineligible player. But since he played 3 games, then quit, and since the team is likely going to miss the NCAA tourney this year - there just doesn't seem to be much there to fix. They might suspend Penny for 3ish games to start next year. Hard to see much more than that.
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(02-19-2020 11:47 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:06 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.

The conclusions you draw from facts are illogical though.

How can you punish Penny for doing something that was not against the rules at the time? He didn't pull a Bruce Pearl and try to hide it...So he is clean there.

How can you punish the school for playing a player when they were mandated to do so by the courts? Jerry Tarkanian coached for years with an injuction against the NCAA because the NCAA mandated he be suspended...Eventually he lost the case...Guess what happened to UNLV for letting him coach NOTHING.

I never said anything about punishing Penny. THat was someone else.


Also, I never said anything about punishing the school for playing a player. Again wrong person.

You may have missed it, but the post I responded to had multiple quotes. You are addressing me about things someone else said.

The school will get in trouble because a booster of that school gave impermissible benefits to a recruit.
So yeah, wrong person.
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Usually, when a school gets punished for a booster’s transgressions, they have to “disassociate” the booster from any activities or programs at the school. Question is, how does Memphis disassociate the head basketball coach?
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(02-19-2020 11:35 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:06 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 11:35 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Both were simply eligibility issues, whether it was a booster or a family friend. It is a very small sum of money. Wiseman had the TRO on both Memphis and the NCAA. I just do not see the NCAA pursuing this much further. Perhaps, they throw something small at us but IMO I do not for see anything major coming from this. Again, the NCAA got what they wanted and that was Wiseman not playing for Memphis.

You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:03 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Yes, because it is $11,500. The player was suspended for 12 games and ultimately left the program before playing again. Nothing was hidden by Memphis, it was disclosed on the front end to the NCAA.

I believe we have no more to worry about than Ohio State does with their football player who returned to their program to finish the season.

Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.

Just everything you post seems that way.

And this post is even sillier than the last. Way to up your game.
02-20-2020 09:22 PM
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(02-20-2020 09:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:35 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:06 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:43 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  You are wrong. Sorry man. Memphis is going to be punished. You can pretend that they will not be, but Wiseman was dealt with for his eligibility which is a priority. The booster issue will be dealt with later. Memphis will be on sanctions. Of course, if you like we can make a wager, say 1000 dollars?

It’s like you want to see us punished. DAMN!

(02-18-2020 12:46 PM)griffin Wrote:  Vastly different situations:

Ohio State: did not play the player after being told by the NCAA he was ineligible and the President of the University did not come out swinging at the NCAA

Memphis: played the player after the NCAA stated he was ineligible and the President attacked the NCAA and the lawsuit was filed

Not sure how this is not sinking in yet

Penny has not been punished yet as a booster
The University has yet to be punished for playing an ineligible player

Let’s just wait and see.
Stating facts somehow in your head makes it that I "want" us to be punished? That is just silly.

Just everything you post seems that way.

And this post is even sillier than the last. Way to up your game.

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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
THIS JUST IN:

EX- Kentucky player, alum, and booster Tayshaun Prince has admitted to giving a 2021 recruit's family money to move to Lexington, KY to play for the local highschool.

Fortunately for KY, there is nothing wrong with paying players to come to KY so the NCAA has decided to just "eh, let it go this time".




of course this isnt true, but all the people defending Memphis would be having a riot if KY admitted to paying a player, but for some reason thinks it is just fine for Memphis to pay players.
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RE: Pete Thamel's Yahoo Article on Hardaway, Memphis Basketball
(02-21-2020 10:08 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  THIS JUST IN:

EX- Kentucky player, alum, and booster Tayshaun Prince has admitted to giving a 2021 recruit's family money to move to Lexington, KY to play for the local highschool.

Fortunately for KY, there is nothing wrong with paying players to come to KY so the NCAA has decided to just "eh, let it go this time".




of course this isnt true, but all the people defending Memphis would be having a riot if KY admitted to paying a player, but for some reason thinks it is just fine for Memphis to pay players.

We get it. Penny is a booster. It's a technical violation.

You're leaving out intent. When Penny paid Wiseman's mom, he was not acting as a booster. He was acting as a HS coach. In fact, he was facilitating the kid going to Kentucky rather than Memphis.

So it's just silly to keep throwing this in Memphis fans' faces, and act like it was something more than what it was.

IF the NCAA reacts further (I'm not convinced they even will), it will not be because of the money, it will be because Memphis knowingly played the ineligible player.
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