Not a good look for the present or future according to Thamel

https://sports.yahoo.com/spiraling-memph...21640.html

“With no recruits committed for 2020 and top assistant Mike Miller lobbying hard for head coaching jobs behind the scenes, there are reasons to be skeptical about the future.”

That is worrisome...that Miller might already be working different angles behind the scenes while the season is ongoing. Aren’t Jalen and Greg Brown Miller recruits?

The Penny coaching era could crash and burn in 3-4 years



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(02-16-2020 11:55 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  “With no recruits committed for 2020 and top assistant Mike Miller lobbying hard for head coaching jobs behind the scenes, there are reasons to be skeptical about the future.”

That is worrisome...that Miller might already be working different angles behind the scenes while the season is ongoing. Aren’t Jalen and Greg Brown Miller recruits?

Miller doesn’t yet have his degree. It’s not an issue for next year it will be the year after. Also nothing wrong with him wanting to be a head coach himself. As far as commitments we are after mostly all late signees. If we whiff on all those guys sure not good. But it’s a little premature

where is this sports illustrated article stating a major infractions case is likely? or is this just retreaded speculation from November?

(02-17-2020 04:10 AM)Fluke Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:55 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  “With no recruits committed for 2020 and top assistant Mike Miller lobbying hard for head coaching jobs behind the scenes, there are reasons to be skeptical about the future.”

That is worrisome...that Miller might already be working different angles behind the scenes while the season is ongoing. Aren’t Jalen and Greg Brown Miller recruits?

Miller doesn’t yet have his degree. It’s not an issue for next year it will be the year after. Also nothing wrong with him wanting to be a head coach himself. As far as commitments we are after mostly all late signees. If we whiff on all those guys sure not good. But it’s a little premature

Funny but that is fairly common knowledge to people in the Tiger program...except apparently Yahoo writers.

The bad thing about losing is that everyone wants to pile on when you are down.

(02-17-2020 08:35 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-17-2020 04:10 AM)Fluke Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:55 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  “With no recruits committed for 2020 and top assistant Mike Miller lobbying hard for head coaching jobs behind the scenes, there are reasons to be skeptical about the future.”

That is worrisome...that Miller might already be working different angles behind the scenes while the season is ongoing. Aren’t Jalen and Greg Brown Miller recruits?

Miller doesn’t yet have his degree. It’s not an issue for next year it will be the year after. Also nothing wrong with him wanting to be a head coach himself. As far as commitments we are after mostly all late signees. If we whiff on all those guys sure not good. But it’s a little premature

Funny but that is fairly common knowledge to people in the Tiger program...except apparently Yahoo writers.

The bad thing about losing is that everyone wants to pile on when you are down.

Yep.

I said before he was hired, as he himself even mentioned, that he ran the risk of tarnishing his legacy if he failed to produce. That risk is very high right now. I'm still solidly behind him but damn, I'm beginning to wonder. Year 3 will tell us the real story I think. If he doesn't change his approach and philosophy year 4 may well be his last here.

It's time to get back to fundamentals. We've had chances to win almost every game we've played this year but a lack of fundamentals has bitten us on the ass. Poor FT shooting, not boxing out for rebounds, a seeming inability from our bigs to post up down low to be in position for high percentage shots, VERY poor ball handling from at least 2 of our guards, poor passing just about all the way around, not running set plays in the halfcourt, an inability to break down zone defenses and more have all limited our ability to rise to a decent level.

I'd be more worried if our assistants were not pushing to advance their careers.

I’m waiting until next year. I feel he will learn plenty from this season. One thing is not to build up any team too much. You never know what will happen during a season. So many thing beyond god control.

Penny was trying to motivate a fan base that had become apathetic. I hated the preseason hype and the trash talk, but we desperately needed to rebuild the brand. Hopefully, he’ll land a couple of these targets and put them with the returning group, and make a run next year.

(02-17-2020 09:02 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I said before he was hired, as he himself even mentioned, that he ran the risk of tarnishing his legacy if he failed to produce. That risk is very high right now. I'm still solidly behind him but damn, I'm beginning to wonder. Year 3 will tell us the real story I think. If he doesn't change his approach and philosophy year 4 may well be his last here.

It's time to get back to fundamentals. We've had chances to win almost every game we've played this year but a lack of fundamentals has bitten us on the ass. Poor FT shooting, not boxing out for rebounds, a seeming inability from our bigs to post up down low to be in position for high percentage shots, VERY poor ball handling from at least 2 of our guards, poor passing just about all the way around, not running set plays in the halfcourt, an inability to break down zone defenses and more have all limited our ability to rise to a decent level.

Personally, IF he fails as a coach I do not see that tarnishing his legacy as a Tiger. He came here for one reason and that is to win. If it does not happen then it does not happen but it will not be for lack or effort or desire...

(02-17-2020 09:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'd be more worried if our assistants were not pushing to advance their careers.

No kidding. Is this unique to Memphis assistants somehow? Are all other assistant coaches in the NCAA content just being assistants?

Troll piece. Don't waste your time. We've lost 3 in a row, so everyone wants to pile on and get clicks at our expense. Now every game is a referendum on Penny's coaching - ignoring all other facts of the way this season has played out.

people are expecting too much from a freshman laden team. If we had kept Wiseman, then it might be different, but even with an undisputed standout like him it'd be tough. People expect us to go undefeated every year. That'd be great, but it's not realistic. Our team is making a lot of typical freshmen mistakes. They'll learn from them. Even without Precious next year's team will be better. The following year will be even better.
I'll be upset if we don't make the NCAA tourney, but it is what it is. We've got one senior and the rest of the team are freshman and a couple sophomores! I'm trying to look at the freshman and find out who the next Antonio Anderson is. Hopefully we're developing another strong 4 year leader like he became.

(02-17-2020 09:14 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  I’m waiting until next year. I feel he will learn plenty from this season. One thing is not to build up any team too much. You never know what will happen during a season. So many thing beyond god control.

Classic

(02-17-2020 10:11 AM)yakko Wrote:  people are expecting too much from a freshman laden team. If we had kept Wiseman, then it might be different, but even with an undisputed standout like him it'd be tough. People expect us to go undefeated every year. That'd be great, but it's not realistic. Our team is making a lot of typical freshmen mistakes. They'll learn from them. Even without Precious next year's team will be better. The following year will be even better.
I'll be upset if we don't make the NCAA tourney, but it is what it is. We've got one senior and the rest of the team are freshman and a couple sophomores! I'm trying to look at the freshman and find out who the next Antonio Anderson is. Hopefully we're developing another strong 4 year leader like he became.

Agree. This team has been through a ton, and I'm hoping that they learn through these experiences (coaches, as well). Having a team full of experienced and talented sophomores a juniors will put us in a good position next year. We do need to figure out who our core is and who our leaders are. I think that's an issue with this team, and I think Penny is hesitant to address that.

I'm also interested in seeing what sort of changes we see on the roster heading into next season (additions and subtractions).

(02-17-2020 09:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'd be more worried if our assistants were not pushing to advance their careers.

What is Saul doing nowadays?

(02-17-2020 10:45 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-17-2020 09:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'd be more worried if our assistants were not pushing to advance their careers.

What is Saul doing nowadays?

I'm sorry, do I look like Google?

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(02-17-2020 10:55 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(02-17-2020 10:45 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-17-2020 09:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'd be more worried if our assistants were not pushing to advance their careers.

What is Saul doing nowadays?

I'm sorry, do I look like Google?

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Google says nothing. Probably living in his dad's basement.