(01-03-2020 11:10 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 03:13 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Yeah don’t mind me, but I wasn’t being critical of somebody that doesn’t frequent the forum, I favor quality over quantity anyway. However, the statement and “confused” emoji was clearly wondering why somebody would use all of their posts asking about non-publicized injuries. If the person truly was so pumped they’d actually engage in any of the various lively discussions, and not just the obscure.

I think you are right. Looks like a troll. Much too familiar with the NDSU roster to not already have the answer he is soliciting.

That poster is a troll.

(01-03-2020 08:49 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  We need Holloway to play one of his best games of his career. I am hopeful when NDSU drops back to pass Dimitri's one and only assignment is to stay focused on the Bizon QB tucking it and running up the middle of the field when the pocket breaks down. Then, of course, executing a solid open field tackle.

I'd love to see the NDSU QB thinking twice about having to meet DH around the original LOS when he tries to scramble for a 1st down on 3rd and long situations.

And deeer lawdy,

Can we PLEASE stay away from the dreaded, oft used, oft abused targeting calls?

I don’t watch every game out there, but has anyone racked up those calls with the regularity that we get called?

(01-03-2020 09:16 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 08:39 AM)allengsJMU Wrote:  Hey all, I really like the speculation goin on in this thread. Are there any more injuries to NDSU that yall have heard of? Or any guys that are questionable and not 100% ready to play in Frisco?

Go Dukes!

(12-30-2019 11:41 AM)allengsJMU Wrote:  Hey all. So pumped for the game. Has anyone heard of any injuries or players that ND State is hiding? Just wanna know if they have any faults in their game plan or anything we should be looking forward to in Frisco.

You’re so pumped for this game your two posts in your 3 months here are asking about secret injuries?

Lol

Nice catch.


Sooo pumped!

My guess is another degenerate gambler...

(01-03-2020 02:48 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 12:18 PM)allengsJMU Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 12:09 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:49 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 09:16 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  You’re so pumped for this game your two posts in your 3 months here are asking about secret injuries?

Look at polish hammer calling out the secret Matt Entz csnbbs account lol

Ha! Matt got bored watching film, and decided to surf the interwebs to see what knowledge JMU fans have about his double secret plans. He might have to make adjustments now that he know we know he has injured players that secretly aren’t injured.

Yes... That makes sense. He wants to know who is injured on his own team. Right... I am not getting anything from their message boards, so I thought I'd ask other JMU fans since I trust yall...

Don't mind them, There's a group here that are critical of anyone that doesn't have a least 5000 posts. There's a reason why 40,000 JMU supporters/fans don't actively participate in these discussions.

There is?

Like who?

5000 posts is really kind of a lot for those of us that aren’t underemployed or insomniacs or both...

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 10:22 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:07 AM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 06:34 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 01:30 AM)highplainsbison Wrote:  What do consider not a high score?

24-14

I agree with the 10 pt difference, but will flip your prediction calling it 34-24 Bison.

We will have to totally implode for you to score 34.

I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

13-12 or 21-16 will work just fine for us too.

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 10:22 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:07 AM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 06:34 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  24-14

I agree with the 10 pt difference, but will flip your prediction calling it 34-24 Bison.

We will have to totally implode for you to score 34.

I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

(01-04-2020 08:39 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  My guess is another degenerate gambler...

My initial guess as well.

(01-03-2020 10:46 PM)lakesbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 08:32 AM)Dadgum Wrote:  The Dukes have the advantage in coaching, the trenches and senior leadership, imo, which usually pays huge dividends in championship bouts. Assuming mistake/turnover free football on both sides, big assumption I know, I like Latrele Palmer to come in and grind the victory away for the Dukes late. I also really like Amos to make a housecall. The Bison had trouble with him last game and I think he breaks one or two big ones in this game. Special teams will loom large in this game, much like they did two years ago in Frisco.

You can say whatever you want, but NDSU has NEVER been at a disadvantage in the trenches, not vs #13 Iowa, not vs Defending Big 12 champs K State, not vs #3 Oregon in our 1st game next year either.

NDSU's program is defined by our trenches.

and I see QB Trey Lance running for over 100 yards, we will run him into the ground if we have to

Never is a very strong assertion when you got dominated upfront in 2016 by JMU on both sides. Also your coaches came to JMU following that season to get educated on the 4-2-5 Defense that your staff at that time couldn't figure out how JMU out played and out coached you in your HOUSE!!!

But I have been watching have of your 2019 Season, this team is better than the 2017 squad in a lot of ways, much more diverse . . . but so is JMU! to be the best JMU will have to beat the best . . . much respect for sure. every game I watch I gain a little more respect for 2019 addition of Bison Football. I watched all of JMU games and I am confident JMU is more than up for the task.

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 10:22 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:07 AM)highplainsbison Wrote:  I agree with the 10 pt difference, but will flip your prediction calling it 34-24 Bison.

We will have to totally implode for you to score 34.

I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 10:22 PM)Purple Wrote:  We will have to totally implode for you to score 34.

I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

vice versa. JMU? Word is is that your secondary is your weakness.

Lance only throws it around 18 times a game. I expect more tosses seeing that the Duke's run D is so good. I predict that the NDSU TE's will be very involved in this game.

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

It’s tough to isolate and draw conclusions on games that may not have been representative of the entire season.

Much the same as Bison fans pointing to your Stony Brook game, deficit to Nova, or even the lack of ability to move the ball against UNI.

It seems pretty clear that NDSU has better statistical passing defense because they’ve not faced top passing offenses, whereas JMU has a worse statistical passing defense because they’ve faced better passing offenses. Vice versa for rushing defense.

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:36 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:16 PM)Chalupa Batman Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 10:22 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 11:07 AM)highplainsbison Wrote:  I agree with the 10 pt difference, but will flip your prediction calling it 34-24 Bison.

We will have to totally implode for you to score 34.

I agree. I don't see either team getting to 30 without anything unusual happening. I see low to mid 20's, like 23-21, 24-20 or something like that.

It will be just as hard fought as last time but both offenses are better so a few more points will be scored, but not a lot more.

I agree with that completely. The best matchup of finalists I can ever remember for the Natty.

That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game[/b]. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

You must not remember 1996 Marshall/Montana.

(01-04-2020 07:03 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

vice versa. JMU? Word is is that your secondary is your weakness.

Lance only throws it around 18 times a game. I expect more tosses seeing that the Duke's run D is so good. I predict that the NDSU TE's will be very involved in this game.

Your TEs will be finally back in the passing game as they were in the beginning of the season for sure. I already predicted earlier it will come down to the TE safeties and TE Linebacker matchups

I initially put the below in the LakesBison troll thread, but moved it to here.

#1 vs #2 seeds (according to wiki) since the I-AA playoffs was created back in 1978.
-1981 #2 Idaho St 34, #1 EKU 28. (only 8 team field).
-1996 #1 Marshall 49, #2 Montana 29 (were flipped in AP poll).
-2009 #2 VU 23, #1 Montana 21.
-2011 (season) #2 NDSU 17, #1 SHSU 6.
-2017 (season) #2 NDSU 17, #1 JMU 13

#2 seed has won 4 of 5..

*2016 had #3 seed/#2 polls NDSU 37, #1 seed/#1 polls JSU 10.

BTW the last time 2 unseeded teams played for the NC? 2004 JMU/Montana. Course in 2010 they went to 5 seeds, and in 2013 went to 8...

1996 14-0 Marshall (#1 seed/#2 polls 14-0 Montana (#2 seed/#1 polls) played in front of over 30k. The 2 had been #1/#2 all season long. Was a rematch of the 1995 NC when Montana beat Marshall 22-20 in front of 32K.

That Marshall team had 6 future draft picks over the next 4 drafts (two 1st rounders (1 of them Randy Moss), a 2nd rounder, a 3rd rounder, a 5th rounder, and a 6th rounder) + # of UDFA. They blew away most teams- their closest game was @ ASU 24-10. Won their playoff games 59-14, 54-0, and 31-14 (semis UNI)

Montana had beaten Oregon State by 3 TDs, only had one win by less than 2 TDs during the regular season (43-36 @ Cal St Northridge), and won their playoff games 48-3, 44-14, and 70-7 (semis Troy St).

And this was all before I-AA had been allegedly watered down. I don’t know if any NC matchup will be able to top that game.

(01-04-2020 07:04 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 01:24 PM)highplainsbison Wrote:  That's for sure. So many different scenarios that can play out with this game. Pretty much everyone is calling a low scoring game, but I'll stick to my +30 winning score. Might not be the Bison, but I hope so.

Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

It’s tough to isolate and draw conclusions on games that may not have been representative of the entire season.

Much the same as Bison fans pointing to your Stony Brook game, deficit to Nova, or even the lack of ability to move the ball against UNI.

It seems pretty clear that NDSU has better statistical passing defense because they’ve not faced top passing offenses, whereas JMU has a worse statistical passing defense because they’ve faced better passing offenses. Vice versa for rushing defense.

Good Point,

but at the time of Stony Brook, that was the 3rd week in row on the road and there 3 top corners were out or in and out of the game and line ups week to week.

Nova's QB was really good until MJ Hampton's pick 6, turn the game around, shook his confidence, and infused the the defense with more confidence then they already had.

TE's match-ups will be at the forefront for sure.

The edge defense will be a key vs ndsu as well as I see it right now but this game may end up being a wild one early

(01-04-2020 07:36 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:04 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:27 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  Help me Please!!!!!
Who did NDSU play with a viable passing game this season??? Not finding anything yet, ANY

UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

It’s tough to isolate and draw conclusions on games that may not have been representative of the entire season.

Much the same as Bison fans pointing to your Stony Brook game, deficit to Nova, or even the lack of ability to move the ball against UNI.

It seems pretty clear that NDSU has better statistical passing defense because they’ve not faced top passing offenses, whereas JMU has a worse statistical passing defense because they’ve faced better passing offenses. Vice versa for rushing defense.

Good Point,

but at the time of Stony Brook, that was the 3rd week in row on the road and there 3 top corners were out or in and out of line up.

Nova's QB was really good until MJ Hampton's pick 6, turn the game around, shook his confidence, and infused the the defense with more confidence then they already had.

TE's match-ups will be at the forefront for sure.

The edge defense will be a key vs ndsu as well as I see it right now but this game may end up being a wild one early

Love how everyone keeps pointing to the SBU and VU games. Other than the fact that we won those games, we also went on to play 8 completely dominate games in a row including the postseason. But wait! We only beat UNI 17-0 neglecting the fact we ran the ball up the middle 70% of the game and threw 6 passes in the second half. Oh yea we missed 2 FGs and the worst interception of the season. That game should have be 30-0 without self inflicted mistakes. UNI did nothing to cause those.

Meanwhile NDSU had 3 underwhelming games in a row against SIU, Nichols, and Ill St. Their more recent track record suggests that the MSU semifinal was the anomaly in their post season run

If people want to nitpick games NDSU has had way more suspect performances this season. UCD, SDSU, and the three I just mentioned

(01-04-2020 07:48 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:36 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:04 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:35 PM)Motrain46 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:34 PM)Bison01 Wrote:  UC Davis, which obviously was a tight game. But UC Davis appears to be the best passing offense either team has faced all year (according to NCAA stats).

Not sure if the result was because they are a tough team, or if it was some of the Bison youth rearing it’s head early in the season. JMU fans will lean toward the conclusion that the Bison are vulnerable to good passing offenses I’m sure.

Watching that one right now. What puzzles me is that most of the teams are run heavy because they are inefficient at passing the ball and NDSU gets gashed often! but I will say they get better inside the 30s.

Inside the 30s is where the game will be won or loss provided no costly turnovers.

It’s tough to isolate and draw conclusions on games that may not have been representative of the entire season.

Much the same as Bison fans pointing to your Stony Brook game, deficit to Nova, or even the lack of ability to move the ball against UNI.

It seems pretty clear that NDSU has better statistical passing defense because they’ve not faced top passing offenses, whereas JMU has a worse statistical passing defense because they’ve faced better passing offenses. Vice versa for rushing defense.

Good Point,

but at the time of Stony Brook, that was the 3rd week in row on the road and there 3 top corners were out or in and out of line up.

Nova's QB was really good until MJ Hampton's pick 6, turn the game around, shook his confidence, and infused the the defense with more confidence then they already had.

TE's match-ups will be at the forefront for sure.

The edge defense will be a key vs ndsu as well as I see it right now but this game may end up being a wild one early

Love how everyone keeps pointing to the SBU and VU games. Other than the fact that we won those games, we also went on to play 8 completely dominate games in a row including the postseason. But wait! We only beat UNI 17-0 neglecting the fact we ran the ball up the middle 70% of the game and threw 6 passes in the second half. Oh yea we missed 2 FGs and the worst interception of the season. That game should have be 30-0 without self inflicted mistakes. UNI did nothing to cause those.

Meanwhile NDSU had 3 underwhelming games in a row against SIU, Nichols, and Ill St. Their more recent track record suggests that the MSU semifinal was the anomaly in their post season run

If people want to nitpick games NDSU has had way more suspect performances this season. UCD, SDSU, and the three I just mentioned

J M U ....DUUUKKKEEESSS!