(12-22-2019 12:42 AM)ofcchad Wrote: You can advance a fumble in college football by after recovering a ball - unless it was out of bounds or if it’s 4th down or a PAT. On a 4th down or PAT, only the same player can advance the ball that fumbled (lost) is. Should someone else from the offense (Team A) recover the ball, it will be regulated dead by the officials and the play is over.
That is according to a quick internet seach
Yeah, I can’t find anything to the contrary.
I just don’t understand why it wasn’t our ball at the spot of the recovery?
If this is actually the case, then that touchdown on the return of the fumble and the leaping call on the field goal, missed face mask penalty: this has to be one of the most poorly officiated game I have ever seen
IF the ball had been fumbled forward into the endzone or on 4th down only the player who fumbled can recover. Because the ball was fumbled backwards it can be advanced.
(12-22-2019 12:42 AM)ofcchad Wrote: You can advance a fumble in college football by after recovering a ball - unless it was out of bounds or if it’s 4th down or a PAT. On a 4th down or PAT, only the same player can advance the ball that fumbled (lost) is. Should someone else from the offense (Team A) recover the ball, it will be regulated dead by the officials and the play is over.
That is according to a quick internet seach
Yeah, I can’t find anything to the contrary.
I just don’t understand why it wasn’t our ball at the spot of the recovery?
If this is actually the case, then that touchdown on the return of the fumble and the leaping call on the field goal, missed face mask penalty: this has to be one of the most poorly officiated game I have ever seen
IF the ball had been fumbled forward into the endzone or on 4th down only the player who fumbled can recover. Because the ball was fumbled backwards it can be advanced.
It’s kind of an Occam’s Razor: they either forgot that a botched snap is always considered a fumble by the QB (so, they never considered it fumbled...just live ball that #3 picked up) or they knew it was a fumble and forgot that on 4th down another player can’t advance the ball. HOWEVER, the box score does show one fumble by the QB (Zac Thomas) with no recoveries AND the RB (Shaun Jolly) with a recovery but no fumbles. That leads me to believe they forgot the more basic of the rules. Of course, the scorer that provides the box score is not on the field but in the booth and I don’t know if he’s in constant headset communication with on-field refs.
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(This post was last modified: 12-23-2019 12:26 PM by blazr.)
(12-22-2019 12:42 AM)ofcchad Wrote: You can advance a fumble in college football by after recovering a ball - unless it was out of bounds or if it’s 4th down or a PAT. On a 4th down or PAT, only the same player can advance the ball that fumbled (lost) is. Should someone else from the offense (Team A) recover the ball, it will be regulated dead by the officials and the play is over.
That is according to a quick internet seach
Yeah, I can’t find anything to the contrary.
I just don’t understand why it wasn’t our ball at the spot of the recovery?
If this is actually the case, then that touchdown on the return of the fumble and the leaping call on the field goal, missed face mask penalty: this has to be one of the most poorly officiated game I have ever seen
IF the ball had been fumbled forward into the endzone or on 4th down only the player who fumbled can recover. Because the ball was fumbled backwards it can be advanced.
I’ve heard people say that, but can’t find any evidence to support that.
The rules I’ve found say that if fumbled backwards on 4th down & recovered but another player, it’s dead at the site of recovery