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(12-08-2019 09:05 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Penn State fans, like most fan bases, aren’t rational, and have zero clue what makes a good football coach.

So Penn State fans are basically our spirit animal?

We need to identify Ricky Bobby's stance on blueberry pancakes before we go any further.

Big Ten Offenses and CUSA offenses are WAY different! The offense at PSU looked okay to me and they damn near beat Ohio State. Even Alabama has trouble moving the ball somethings.

And is it even set in stone yet that he is out guy?

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Whoever gets hired will take at least 3-4 years before we become competitive. BW didn't lose all thoses games this past season, the players did. And why? Because they are not good enough to play at this level. The new coach has got to be able to recruit better players or move back to CAA!

(12-08-2019 10:02 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  Whoever gets hired will take at least 3-4 years before we become competitive. BW didn't lose all thoses games this past season, the players did. And why? Because they are not good enough to play at this level. The new coach has got to be able to recruit better players or move back to CAA!

This isnt true. There is a talent base to work with. Many will be redshirt freshman and soph. And the class coming in looks good if they can retain them.

If the new coach is good... and people stay, this team will be way more competitive next year and really good the year after.

The most important questions now are; (1) who will be his offensive coordinator, (2) who will be his defensive coordinator, and (3) who can he bring in to lead a highly effective recruiting program. If he does not get the right hires for those positions, everything else is moot. I also suspect he will hold on to our strength and conditioning coach. He came from Penn State didn't he?

(12-07-2019 08:25 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  If true, we’re hiring an OC from one of the top football programs in the country. What more do we want?

Input from message board posters needs to be an integral part of the process. No one knows more.

Trying to be objective... the guy seems to have decent credentials, some decent experience, while being young enough where the generational gap shouldn't be a major factor. Trying to figure out the recruiting strategy. He doesn't have local ties. How big of an issue is this or is that overrated? Will he try to establish local ties or will he be using his connections in the Midwest and Rockies and try to get those kids to come to Norfolk? Maybe that isn't the worst approach... go after Boise State and Colorado State recruits and we offer something different and we are not competing with 20 different P5, G5, and FCS schools.

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Many on here didn't care who the next coach was as long as Wilder was let go. Boy has that changed.

From Bobby to Ricky. At least it's not Ricky Bobby.

(12-08-2019 10:47 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Trying to be objective... the guy seems to have decent credentials, some decent experience, while being young enough where the generational gap shouldn't be a major factor. Trying to figure out the recruiting strategy. He doesn't have local ties. How big of an issue is this or is that overrated? Will he try to establish local ties or will he be using his connections in the Midwest and Rockies and try to get those kids to come to Norfolk? Maybe that isn't the worst approach... go after Boise State and Colorado State recruits and we offer something different and we are not competing with 20 different P5, G5, and FCS schools.

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The local ties I think are big for us. Keeping a couple hometown heroes is great, but the marginal players who walkon and develop can be money for us. Penn St has been at ODU for several camps, but they don't have a single player from the 757. They do have a few from Virginia. Maybe the new HC builds relationships, with local coaches. Think we all agree this will be important to our success.

Maybe he keeps Stieny for recruiting

(12-08-2019 11:39 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 10:47 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Trying to be objective... the guy seems to have decent credentials, some decent experience, while being young enough where the generational gap shouldn't be a major factor. Trying to figure out the recruiting strategy. He doesn't have local ties. How big of an issue is this or is that overrated? Will he try to establish local ties or will he be using his connections in the Midwest and Rockies and try to get those kids to come to Norfolk? Maybe that isn't the worst approach... go after Boise State and Colorado State recruits and we offer something different and we are not competing with 20 different P5, G5, and FCS schools.

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The local ties I think are big for us. Keeping a couple hometown heroes is great, but the marginal players who walkon and develop can be money for us. Penn St has been at ODU for several camps, but they don't have a single player from the 757. They do have a few from Virginia. Maybe the new HC builds relationships, with local coaches. Think we all agree this will be important to our success.

Zohn Burden is now available. It would be great to get him back up for 757 (and elsewhere) recruiting.

Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

(12-08-2019 01:21 PM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

Burden OC ? seriously ? He was running backs coach at VT. I agree hire him and asst. OC and running backs coach. Hire a REAL OC.

(12-08-2019 02:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 01:21 PM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

Burden OC ? seriously ? He was running backs coach at VT. I agree hire him and asst. OC and running backs coach. Hire a REAL OC.

Oh snap, I tdidn't know he was just a fake offensive coach.

(12-08-2019 02:09 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 02:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 01:21 PM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

Burden OC ? seriously ? He was running backs coach at VT. I agree hire him and asst. OC and running backs coach. Hire a REAL OC.

Oh snap, I tdidn't know he was just a fake offensive coach.

Offensive Coordinator requires at least some experience being one at maybe another mid major FBS or top FCS. Burden can be an Asst. OC /Running backs coach, but not an OC.

(12-08-2019 02:13 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 02:09 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 02:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 01:21 PM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

Burden OC ? seriously ? He was running backs coach at VT. I agree hire him and asst. OC and running backs coach. Hire a REAL OC.

Oh snap, I tdidn't know he was just a fake offensive coach.

Offensive Coordinator requires at least some experience being one at maybe another mid major FBS or top FCS. Burden can be an Asst. OC /Running backs coach, but not an OC.

He's right, you know. No one ever gets promoted. You either are or you are not. Sorry, Zohn. Move along.

Mr.Whathisface's opinions aside, if admin/HC already has someone in mind for OC, does ZB take a lateral move with the recruiting coordinator tag?

(12-08-2019 02:13 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 02:09 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 02:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-08-2019 01:21 PM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  Burden as OC would be nice. Let him be in charge of recruiting.

Burden OC ? seriously ? He was running backs coach at VT. I agree hire him and asst. OC and running backs coach. Hire a REAL OC.

Oh snap, I tdidn't know he was just a fake offensive coach.

Offensive Coordinator requires at least some experience being one at maybe another mid major FBS or top FCS. Burden can be an Asst. OC /Running backs coach, but not an OC.

It doesn't require anything. Talented coaches get promoted without dropping down to FCS to be an OC. That is ridiculous