where in the h-e double hockey sticks is Pilot2000???

maybe he's groomin' his boy to be a future Tech lineman....that I'd easily believe!!!

(10-16-2019 10:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  where in the h-e double hockey sticks is Pilot2000???

maybe he's groomin' his boy to be a future Tech lineman....that I'd easily believe!!!

He's around, I'm sure he will definitely be there for this one.

You coming to the game this year?

Here's some slightly relevant stats:

The last time LT beat a conference opponent at home that was over .500 was UTSA in 2017, final score was 20-6 (UTSA was 6-4 at the time).

The last time USM beat a conference opponent AWAY that was over .500 was Marshall in 2017, final score was 28-27 (Marshall was 7-4 at the time).

(10-17-2019 10:17 AM)TTT Wrote:  Here's some slightly relevant stats:

The last time LT beat a conference opponent at home that was over .500 was UTSA in 2017, final score was 20-6 (UTSA was 6-4 at the time).

The last time USM beat a conference opponent AWAY that was over .500 was Marshall in 2017, final score was 28-27 (Marshall was 7-4 at the time).

Well thats not a very pretty stat for either team.

(10-17-2019 10:17 AM)TTT Wrote:  Here's some slightly relevant stats:

The last time LT beat a conference opponent at home that was over .500 was UTSA in 2017, final score was 20-6 (UTSA was 6-4 at the time).

The last time USM beat a conference opponent AWAY that was over .500 was Marshall in 2017, final score was 28-27 (Marshall was 7-4 at the time).

stolen/borrowed from Twitter:

in USM's last 14 games.......8-0 when scoring on our opening drive and 0-6 when we don't score on our opening drive.

(10-16-2019 08:10 AM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 10:57 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 07:46 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 07:43 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  I'm hoping the same. I'll be bringing 4 with me from TX and Little Rock!

As for Southern Miss, UNT's defense has not looked the same this year, but as for Troy, they have a great rush defense, like last year, but not a great Pass Defense. MSST & Alabama both had decent to great pass defenses, and your offense was humbled. ULoL played better vs MSST than you because of "home" game, but also because MSST plays the pass better than the run.

As for us, our pass defense is better than the run defense (FIU had ~100 pass yds in the last 10 minutes trying to come back with us in prevent). It'll be interesting to see our strength vs your strength. Our rush offense has turned the corner and yours rush defense is good (less than 120yds/game), so that'll be strength vs strength. Your run offense is below average, as is our run defense. Weak vs Weak. Your pass defense has underperformed, while ours is decent to good (2nd in conference). Strength vs average.

Plus, you guys allow and obtain 52% of your points in the Red Zone (both O and D, weird, right?), while we score 60% of O in RZ, and allow 72% of total points in RZ. Thus you guys live and die more by the big plays.

Some cool Red Zone Stats:

RZ Offense:

#1 FAU (#7 Nation)

#2 SoMiss (#16 Nation), 94.4% scoring, 18 Attempts, 17 scores, 11 TDs (5R, 6P), 6 FGs, 61.1% TDs/RZAttempt

#5 Tech (#26 Nation), 91.3% scoring, 23 Attempts, 21 scores, 15 TDs (7R, 8P), 6 FGs, 65.2% TDs/RZAttempt

RZ Defense:

#1 Tech (#6 Nation), 59.3% scoring, 27 attempts, 16 scores, 13 TDs (9R, 4P), 3 FGs, 48.1% TDs/RZAttempt

#2 FAU (#12 Nation), 68.4%
#10 SoMiss (#105 Nation), 88.2% scoring, 17 attempts, 15 scores, 12 TDs (6P, 6R), 3 FGs, 80% TDs/RZAttempt



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Conference rank is in parentheses.

La Tech:

Scoring Offense 34 PPG (1st)
Scoring Defense 23 PPG (3rd)
Total Offense 467 YPG (1st)
Rush Offense 186 YPG (4th)
Pass Offense 281 YPG (2nd)
Total Defense 402 YPG (8th)
Rush Defense 156 YPG (7th)
Pass Defense 246 YPG (10th)
Kick Returns 24 YPR (3rd)
Punt Returns 6 YPR (6th)
Kick Coverage 38 Net Average (12th)
Punting 35 Net Average (13th)
Third Down Conv 40% (5th)
Opp Third Down Conv 36% (6th)

Southern Miss

Scoring Offense 30 PPG (5th)
Scoring Defense 30 PPG (8th)
Total Offense 444 YPG (2nd)
Rush Offense 113 YPG (13th)
Pass Offense 331 YPG (1st)
Total Defense 388 YPG (6th)
Rush Defense 123 YPG (3rd)
Pass Defense 265 YPG (13th)
Kick Returns 25 YPR (2nd)
Punt Returns 11 YPR (4th)
Kickoff Coverage 40 Net Average (7th)
Punt Coverage 33 Net Average (14th)
Third Down Conv 48% (1st)
Opp Third Down Conv 35% (5th)

 




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Now if you will just break down the rankings of the teams you have played and we have played and the teams they have played you might have something here. Otherwise this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.
My guess is LaRuston will be really up for this one. Your seniors haven’t beaten us and they damn well know it. Jack is a better QB than the one you kept and he’s got another year left. Ohhh this is gonna be a good one all right. But the RZ D and the RZ O against UMass and Grambling ain’t gonna mean chit.
Here’s to you guys taking your loss like men and not like the Side Show ladies from somewhere in Texas.

Sure, taking out the FCS Schools, and Comparing opponents since Watkins' return, the Massey Composite has SoMiss's Opponents as (L to #53 MSST before the return):

#2 Alabama L @
#101 Troy 5pt W @
#104 UNT 18pt W home
#128 UTEP 18pt W home

Your most impressive win is 2-4 Troy. Troy has beaten #129 Akron + FCS. UTEP has beaten FCS. UNT has beaten #121 UTSA + FCS. So no one you've beaten has been impressive, nor have they beaten anyone impressive.

As for us, we've lost @#15 Texas, but picked up wins over:
#92 FIU 12pt W home
#117 BGSU 28pt W @
#120 Rice 3pt W @
#130 UMass 48pt W home

Our most impressive win is 3-3 FIU. FIU has wins over #116 Charlotte, #130 UMass, + FCS. BGSU has wins over #76 Toledo + FCS. Rice has no wins. UMass has a win over #129 Akron.

Our opponents that we've beaten have played and won games against better opponents (your best is UNTs win over #121 UTSA, while BGSU beat #76 Toledo [4-2], while FIU beat #116 Charlotte). We've also beaten a team with the better record (FIU 3-3 vs Troy & UNT @ 2-4). Also, Troy's best win was also beaten by UMass (Akron).

I'll say this though, in conference, while you've played two home games and we've played a road and home game, you've beaten your opponents more decisively (18pt average vs 7.5pt average for us).

Should be a great game, and I wish SoMiss finishes the year ranked at 10-3 with a bowl win over Ole Miss and a loss to us

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Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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(10-17-2019 12:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 08:10 AM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 10:57 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 07:46 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 07:43 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  I'm hoping the same. I'll be bringing 4 with me from TX and Little Rock!

As for Southern Miss, UNT's defense has not looked the same this year, but as for Troy, they have a great rush defense, like last year, but not a great Pass Defense. MSST & Alabama both had decent to great pass defenses, and your offense was humbled. ULoL played better vs MSST than you because of "home" game, but also because MSST plays the pass better than the run.

As for us, our pass defense is better than the run defense (FIU had ~100 pass yds in the last 10 minutes trying to come back with us in prevent). It'll be interesting to see our strength vs your strength. Our rush offense has turned the corner and yours rush defense is good (less than 120yds/game), so that'll be strength vs strength. Your run offense is below average, as is our run defense. Weak vs Weak. Your pass defense has underperformed, while ours is decent to good (2nd in conference). Strength vs average.

Plus, you guys allow and obtain 52% of your points in the Red Zone (both O and D, weird, right?), while we score 60% of O in RZ, and allow 72% of total points in RZ. Thus you guys live and die more by the big plays.

Some cool Red Zone Stats:

RZ Offense:

#1 FAU (#7 Nation)

#2 SoMiss (#16 Nation), 94.4% scoring, 18 Attempts, 17 scores, 11 TDs (5R, 6P), 6 FGs, 61.1% TDs/RZAttempt

#5 Tech (#26 Nation), 91.3% scoring, 23 Attempts, 21 scores, 15 TDs (7R, 8P), 6 FGs, 65.2% TDs/RZAttempt

RZ Defense:

#1 Tech (#6 Nation), 59.3% scoring, 27 attempts, 16 scores, 13 TDs (9R, 4P), 3 FGs, 48.1% TDs/RZAttempt

#2 FAU (#12 Nation), 68.4%
#10 SoMiss (#105 Nation), 88.2% scoring, 17 attempts, 15 scores, 12 TDs (6P, 6R), 3 FGs, 80% TDs/RZAttempt



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La Tech:

Scoring Offense 34 PPG (1st)
Scoring Defense 23 PPG (3rd)
Total Offense 467 YPG (1st)
Rush Offense 186 YPG (4th)
Pass Offense 281 YPG (2nd)
Total Defense 402 YPG (8th)
Rush Defense 156 YPG (7th)
Pass Defense 246 YPG (10th)
Kick Returns 24 YPR (3rd)
Punt Returns 6 YPR (6th)
Kick Coverage 38 Net Average (12th)
Punting 35 Net Average (13th)
Third Down Conv 40% (5th)
Opp Third Down Conv 36% (6th)

Southern Miss

Scoring Offense 30 PPG (5th)
Scoring Defense 30 PPG (8th)
Total Offense 444 YPG (2nd)
Rush Offense 113 YPG (13th)
Pass Offense 331 YPG (1st)
Total Defense 388 YPG (6th)
Rush Defense 123 YPG (3rd)
Pass Defense 265 YPG (13th)
Kick Returns 25 YPR (2nd)
Punt Returns 11 YPR (4th)
Kickoff Coverage 40 Net Average (7th)
Punt Coverage 33 Net Average (14th)
Third Down Conv 48% (1st)
Opp Third Down Conv 35% (5th)

 




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Now if you will just break down the rankings of the teams you have played and we have played and the teams they have played you might have something here. Otherwise this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.
My guess is LaRuston will be really up for this one. Your seniors haven’t beaten us and they damn well know it. Jack is a better QB than the one you kept and he’s got another year left. Ohhh this is gonna be a good one all right. But the RZ D and the RZ O against UMass and Grambling ain’t gonna mean chit.
Here’s to you guys taking your loss like men and not like the Side Show ladies from somewhere in Texas.

Sure, taking out the FCS Schools, and Comparing opponents since Watkins' return, the Massey Composite has SoMiss's Opponents as (L to #53 MSST before the return):

#2 Alabama L @
#101 Troy 5pt W @
#104 UNT 18pt W home
#128 UTEP 18pt W home

Your most impressive win is 2-4 Troy. Troy has beaten #129 Akron + FCS. UTEP has beaten FCS. UNT has beaten #121 UTSA + FCS. So no one you've beaten has been impressive, nor have they beaten anyone impressive.

As for us, we've lost @#15 Texas, but picked up wins over:
#92 FIU 12pt W home
#117 BGSU 28pt W @
#120 Rice 3pt W @
#130 UMass 48pt W home

Our most impressive win is 3-3 FIU. FIU has wins over #116 Charlotte, #130 UMass, + FCS. BGSU has wins over #76 Toledo + FCS. Rice has no wins. UMass has a win over #129 Akron.

Our opponents that we've beaten have played and won games against better opponents (your best is UNTs win over #121 UTSA, while BGSU beat #76 Toledo [4-2], while FIU beat #116 Charlotte). We've also beaten a team with the better record (FIU 3-3 vs Troy & UNT @ 2-4). Also, Troy's best win was also beaten by UMass (Akron).

I'll say this though, in conference, while you've played two home games and we've played a road and home game, you've beaten your opponents more decisively (18pt average vs 7.5pt average for us).

Should be a great game, and I wish SoMiss finishes the year ranked at 10-3 with a bowl win over Ole Miss and a loss to us

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Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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Troy is actually a decent team. If they can get their defense going they are a dangerous team. They are 3-3. Two of their losses were by 7 points or less. They might mess around and could win the SB this year.

(10-17-2019 09:26 AM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 10:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  where in the h-e double hockey sticks is Pilot2000???

maybe he's groomin' his boy to be a future Tech lineman....that I'd easily believe!!!

He's around, I'm sure he will definitely be there for this one.

You coming to the game this year?

I'm on a Sabbatical. My boy is up to 225 with a size 13 shoe and he is 12.

(10-17-2019 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 08:10 AM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 10:57 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 07:46 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  Conference rank is in parentheses.

La Tech:

Scoring Offense 34 PPG (1st)
Scoring Defense 23 PPG (3rd)
Total Offense 467 YPG (1st)
Rush Offense 186 YPG (4th)
Pass Offense 281 YPG (2nd)
Total Defense 402 YPG (8th)
Rush Defense 156 YPG (7th)
Pass Defense 246 YPG (10th)
Kick Returns 24 YPR (3rd)
Punt Returns 6 YPR (6th)
Kick Coverage 38 Net Average (12th)
Punting 35 Net Average (13th)
Third Down Conv 40% (5th)
Opp Third Down Conv 36% (6th)

Southern Miss

Scoring Offense 30 PPG (5th)
Scoring Defense 30 PPG (8th)
Total Offense 444 YPG (2nd)
Rush Offense 113 YPG (13th)
Pass Offense 331 YPG (1st)
Total Defense 388 YPG (6th)
Rush Defense 123 YPG (3rd)
Pass Defense 265 YPG (13th)
Kick Returns 25 YPR (2nd)
Punt Returns 11 YPR (4th)
Kickoff Coverage 40 Net Average (7th)
Punt Coverage 33 Net Average (14th)
Third Down Conv 48% (1st)
Opp Third Down Conv 35% (5th)

 




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Now if you will just break down the rankings of the teams you have played and we have played and the teams they have played you might have something here. Otherwise this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.
My guess is LaRuston will be really up for this one. Your seniors haven’t beaten us and they damn well know it. Jack is a better QB than the one you kept and he’s got another year left. Ohhh this is gonna be a good one all right. But the RZ D and the RZ O against UMass and Grambling ain’t gonna mean chit.
Here’s to you guys taking your loss like men and not like the Side Show ladies from somewhere in Texas.

Sure, taking out the FCS Schools, and Comparing opponents since Watkins' return, the Massey Composite has SoMiss's Opponents as (L to #53 MSST before the return):

#2 Alabama L @
#101 Troy 5pt W @
#104 UNT 18pt W home
#128 UTEP 18pt W home

Your most impressive win is 2-4 Troy. Troy has beaten #129 Akron + FCS. UTEP has beaten FCS. UNT has beaten #121 UTSA + FCS. So no one you've beaten has been impressive, nor have they beaten anyone impressive.

As for us, we've lost @#15 Texas, but picked up wins over:
#92 FIU 12pt W home
#117 BGSU 28pt W @
#120 Rice 3pt W @
#130 UMass 48pt W home

Our most impressive win is 3-3 FIU. FIU has wins over #116 Charlotte, #130 UMass, + FCS. BGSU has wins over #76 Toledo + FCS. Rice has no wins. UMass has a win over #129 Akron.

Our opponents that we've beaten have played and won games against better opponents (your best is UNTs win over #121 UTSA, while BGSU beat #76 Toledo [4-2], while FIU beat #116 Charlotte). We've also beaten a team with the better record (FIU 3-3 vs Troy & UNT @ 2-4). Also, Troy's best win was also beaten by UMass (Akron).

I'll say this though, in conference, while you've played two home games and we've played a road and home game, you've beaten your opponents more decisively (18pt average vs 7.5pt average for us).

Should be a great game, and I wish SoMiss finishes the year ranked at 10-3 with a bowl win over Ole Miss and a loss to us

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Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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Troy is actually a decent team. If they can get their defense going they are a dangerous team. They are 3-3. Two of their losses were by 7 points or less. They might mess around and could win the SB this year.

you're right, they're 3-3 (I assumed most teams would have played their 7th game by this Saturday, maybe Troy has already taken 2 biweeks?)

If you look at the pic/table below, it gives some data on yds/attempt and yds/completion on passing offense and defense for all of our FBS opponents, conference teams, and ArkSt. I included ArkSt because they beat Troy in a similar fashion to you.

Look at the green parts for conference, and yellow is OOC. I'm copying this information from a message I posted on our pay site, so it will include us (Tech):


Cool notes:

SoMiss has 13th ranked Defense for passes allowed, pass/attempt, and pass/completion in conference (#105 nationally)

We have the 10th, 2nd, and 1st respectively (3rd-Alabama and UAB- and 2nd -Alabama, respectively) with 6.38 pass yds/attempt and 10.17 pass yds/attempt.

Alabama appears to play a similar bend-don't break 3-4 pass defense to ours... Alabama limited Jack to ~170yds passing, while averaging 202yds/game at 44th. 30yds difference...

Troy, SoMiss's best win according to the Massey Composite (beating #125 SoAlabama and #129 Akron) has close losses to SoMiss and ArkSt. SoMiss has the top in pass-yds/attempt and 2nd (behind UAB) in pass-yds/completion. ArkSt. Would rank 3rd and 5th respectively. Troy has an elite rush defense (93yds/game), but a suspect pass defense (287, 9.13, 14.63), and these stats show why SoMiss was able to win there.

UNT is SoMiss's 2nd best win. Their pass defense is more respectable (227, 7.43, 11.78), but their rush defense is suspect (181yds/game). SoMiss miraculously had their best rushing game of the season vs UNT. I'd say that opened them up for easier passing.

With both more than an extra yds/attempt and yds/completion better pass defense than UNT, it should be interesting to see how we match up.

FIU, our best win, has a better passing defense (190, 6.79, 12.13), and roughly the same rushing defense as UNT (187yds/game). We exceeded both stats, but SoMiss only exceeded the passing (but by 200yds, vs ~100 for both pass and run each for us)

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(10-17-2019 09:26 AM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 10:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  where in the h-e double hockey sticks is Pilot2000???

maybe he's groomin' his boy to be a future Tech lineman....that I'd easily believe!!!

He's around, I'm sure he will definitely be there for this one.

You coming to the game this year?

I wish....I have to work....it's been quite busy for me this year (a good thingy for me back pocket)...

it should be one helluva game....

(10-17-2019 01:34 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:26 AM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 10:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  where in the h-e double hockey sticks is Pilot2000???

maybe he's groomin' his boy to be a future Tech lineman....that I'd easily believe!!!

He's around, I'm sure he will definitely be there for this one.

You coming to the game this year?

I'm on a Sabbatical. My boy is up to 225 with a size 13 shoe and he is 12.

why am I not surprised....that's awesome!!!

#theBeast

(10-12-2019 11:06 PM)TTT Wrote:  What’s awesome is we’ve got this game on a Saturday on a linear tv channel that everyone knows and has. Great job scheduling this game on the NFL Network.

I've been seeing a lot of promotional commercials for this game all week. It's nice to see a network that actually cares about our games.

I'm looking forward to this. I plan on watching. USM plays at Rice next week.

(10-17-2019 06:01 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 08:10 AM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 10:57 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Now if you will just break down the rankings of the teams you have played and we have played and the teams they have played you might have something here. Otherwise this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.
My guess is LaRuston will be really up for this one. Your seniors haven’t beaten us and they damn well know it. Jack is a better QB than the one you kept and he’s got another year left. Ohhh this is gonna be a good one all right. But the RZ D and the RZ O against UMass and Grambling ain’t gonna mean chit.
Here’s to you guys taking your loss like men and not like the Side Show ladies from somewhere in Texas.

Sure, taking out the FCS Schools, and Comparing opponents since Watkins' return, the Massey Composite has SoMiss's Opponents as (L to #53 MSST before the return):

#2 Alabama L @
#101 Troy 5pt W @
#104 UNT 18pt W home
#128 UTEP 18pt W home

Your most impressive win is 2-4 Troy. Troy has beaten #129 Akron + FCS. UTEP has beaten FCS. UNT has beaten #121 UTSA + FCS. So no one you've beaten has been impressive, nor have they beaten anyone impressive.

As for us, we've lost @#15 Texas, but picked up wins over:
#92 FIU 12pt W home
#117 BGSU 28pt W @
#120 Rice 3pt W @
#130 UMass 48pt W home

Our most impressive win is 3-3 FIU. FIU has wins over #116 Charlotte, #130 UMass, + FCS. BGSU has wins over #76 Toledo + FCS. Rice has no wins. UMass has a win over #129 Akron.

Our opponents that we've beaten have played and won games against better opponents (your best is UNTs win over #121 UTSA, while BGSU beat #76 Toledo [4-2], while FIU beat #116 Charlotte). We've also beaten a team with the better record (FIU 3-3 vs Troy & UNT @ 2-4). Also, Troy's best win was also beaten by UMass (Akron).

I'll say this though, in conference, while you've played two home games and we've played a road and home game, you've beaten your opponents more decisively (18pt average vs 7.5pt average for us).

Should be a great game, and I wish SoMiss finishes the year ranked at 10-3 with a bowl win over Ole Miss and a loss to us

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Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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Troy is actually a decent team. If they can get their defense going they are a dangerous team. They are 3-3. Two of their losses were by 7 points or less. They might mess around and could win the SB this year.

you're right, they're 3-3 (I assumed most teams would have played their 7th game by this Saturday, maybe Troy has already taken 2 biweeks?)

If you look at the pic/table below, it gives some data on yds/attempt and yds/completion on passing offense and defense for all of our FBS opponents, conference teams, and ArkSt. I included ArkSt because they beat Troy in a similar fashion to you.

Look at the green parts for conference, and yellow is OOC. I'm copying this information from a message I posted on our pay site, so it will include us (Tech):


Cool notes:

SoMiss has 13th ranked Defense for passes allowed, pass/attempt, and pass/completion in conference (#105 nationally)

We have the 10th, 2nd, and 1st respectively (3rd-Alabama and UAB- and 2nd -Alabama, respectively) with 6.38 pass yds/attempt and 10.17 pass yds/attempt.

Alabama appears to play a similar bend-don't break 3-4 pass defense to ours... Alabama limited Jack to ~170yds passing, while averaging 202yds/game at 44th. 30yds difference...

Troy, SoMiss's best win according to the Massey Composite (beating #125 SoAlabama and #129 Akron) has close losses to SoMiss and ArkSt. SoMiss has the top in pass-yds/attempt and 2nd (behind UAB) in pass-yds/completion. ArkSt. Would rank 3rd and 5th respectively. Troy has an elite rush defense (93yds/game), but a suspect pass defense (287, 9.13, 14.63), and these stats show why SoMiss was able to win there.

UNT is SoMiss's 2nd best win. Their pass defense is more respectable (227, 7.43, 11.78), but their rush defense is suspect (181yds/game). SoMiss miraculously had their best rushing game of the season vs UNT. I'd say that opened them up for easier passing.

With both more than an extra yds/attempt and yds/completion better pass defense than UNT, it should be interesting to see how we match up.

FIU, our best win, has a better passing defense (190, 6.79, 12.13), and roughly the same rushing defense as UNT (187yds/game). We exceeded both stats, but SoMiss only exceeded the passing (but by 200yds, vs ~100 for both pass and run each for us)

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Just how well does the teams you’ve play pass the ball? I know how well the teams we have played passed the ball. But I guess that doesn’t have any effect on the passing defense numbers though does it? You see, I don’t know if you have played anyone who throws the ball as well as we do.

(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 06:01 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 08:10 AM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  Sure, taking out the FCS Schools, and Comparing opponents since Watkins' return, the Massey Composite has SoMiss's Opponents as (L to #53 MSST before the return):

#2 Alabama L @
#101 Troy 5pt W @
#104 UNT 18pt W home
#128 UTEP 18pt W home

Your most impressive win is 2-4 Troy. Troy has beaten #129 Akron + FCS. UTEP has beaten FCS. UNT has beaten #121 UTSA + FCS. So no one you've beaten has been impressive, nor have they beaten anyone impressive.

As for us, we've lost @#15 Texas, but picked up wins over:
#92 FIU 12pt W home
#117 BGSU 28pt W @
#120 Rice 3pt W @
#130 UMass 48pt W home

Our most impressive win is 3-3 FIU. FIU has wins over #116 Charlotte, #130 UMass, + FCS. BGSU has wins over #76 Toledo + FCS. Rice has no wins. UMass has a win over #129 Akron.

Our opponents that we've beaten have played and won games against better opponents (your best is UNTs win over #121 UTSA, while BGSU beat #76 Toledo [4-2], while FIU beat #116 Charlotte). We've also beaten a team with the better record (FIU 3-3 vs Troy & UNT @ 2-4). Also, Troy's best win was also beaten by UMass (Akron).

I'll say this though, in conference, while you've played two home games and we've played a road and home game, you've beaten your opponents more decisively (18pt average vs 7.5pt average for us).

Should be a great game, and I wish SoMiss finishes the year ranked at 10-3 with a bowl win over Ole Miss and a loss to us

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Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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Troy is actually a decent team. If they can get their defense going they are a dangerous team. They are 3-3. Two of their losses were by 7 points or less. They might mess around and could win the SB this year.

you're right, they're 3-3 (I assumed most teams would have played their 7th game by this Saturday, maybe Troy has already taken 2 biweeks?)

If you look at the pic/table below, it gives some data on yds/attempt and yds/completion on passing offense and defense for all of our FBS opponents, conference teams, and ArkSt. I included ArkSt because they beat Troy in a similar fashion to you.

Look at the green parts for conference, and yellow is OOC. I'm copying this information from a message I posted on our pay site, so it will include us (Tech):


Cool notes:

SoMiss has 13th ranked Defense for passes allowed, pass/attempt, and pass/completion in conference (#105 nationally)

We have the 10th, 2nd, and 1st respectively (3rd-Alabama and UAB- and 2nd -Alabama, respectively) with 6.38 pass yds/attempt and 10.17 pass yds/attempt.

Alabama appears to play a similar bend-don't break 3-4 pass defense to ours... Alabama limited Jack to ~170yds passing, while averaging 202yds/game at 44th. 30yds difference...

Troy, SoMiss's best win according to the Massey Composite (beating #125 SoAlabama and #129 Akron) has close losses to SoMiss and ArkSt. SoMiss has the top in pass-yds/attempt and 2nd (behind UAB) in pass-yds/completion. ArkSt. Would rank 3rd and 5th respectively. Troy has an elite rush defense (93yds/game), but a suspect pass defense (287, 9.13, 14.63), and these stats show why SoMiss was able to win there.

UNT is SoMiss's 2nd best win. Their pass defense is more respectable (227, 7.43, 11.78), but their rush defense is suspect (181yds/game). SoMiss miraculously had their best rushing game of the season vs UNT. I'd say that opened them up for easier passing.

With both more than an extra yds/attempt and yds/completion better pass defense than UNT, it should be interesting to see how we match up.

FIU, our best win, has a better passing defense (190, 6.79, 12.13), and roughly the same rushing defense as UNT (187yds/game). We exceeded both stats, but SoMiss only exceeded the passing (but by 200yds, vs ~100 for both pass and run each for us)

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Just how well does the teams you’ve play pass the ball? I know how well the teams we have played passed the ball. But I guess that doesn’t have any effect on the passing defense numbers though does it? You see, I don’t know if you have played anyone who throws the ball as well as we do.

That's a bit of a difficult answer. The two closest we've played are Texas and FIU. FIU's numbers are a bit skewed, so I'll try to just use Morgan's numbers (he missed 1.5 games when injured midway through the FIU game, replacement Wiggins is more of a running QB who had 185yds rushing vs FCS).

Texas has #20th ranked passing offense with 7.8 yds/pass attempt (just below 3rd in CUSA, and 3yds/pass attempt below you) and 11.3 yds/pass completion (below 10th in CUSA). We all know Texas's SOS (LSPoo, Rice, WVU, OkST, Oklahoma). Big12 defenses aren't as bad as previous years, FYI.

In our game, Texas had 7yds/pass attempt, and 9.8yds/pass completion, so we held them to 0.8yds below average pass attempt, and 1.5yds below average pass completion.

FIU with Morgan has 1050yds passing on 83/133. That's 7.9yds/pass attempt and 12.65 yds/pass completion (5th and 5th in conference, respectively). Their passing offense in games he's finished (i.e. excluding WKU injured in 1st half and NH) is 265yds per game, which is 5th in conference. FIU's SOS with Morgan playing the full game (Tulame, UNCC, UMass)

In our game, FIU had 9.6yds/pass attempt and 13.58yds/pass completion, so he had better on 1.7yds/pass attempt and 0.93yds/completion.

So middle of the road. I will say that our defense has been a work in progress, as we've installed a new system (more 3-4, like you guys, more bend don't break, watching the replay of your Alabama game, it seems like we play similarly to them).

Plus, our depth on our DL has been weak, only getting back to full strength with UConn GradTransfer DT Murphy (Former UConn HC & Broyles award winner DC Diaco's recruit at UConn; Murphy and Diaco were part of the only team to beat that 13-1 Houston team that beat chOKlahoma in 2017, Coogin' it; reminds me of us blowing the 34-7 lead vs Houston in the 4th Q 2011, then you guys gave them their only loss in the CUSA Champ game) returning from a fall camp injury. Our DL is definitely our weakest link, but hopefully with the added depth from Murphy, we'll get more pressure on QBs and stops in the run game.

Murphy slowly got worked in vs UMass, and should be a larger contributor this week

Anyways, 1.5 more days, looking forward to a good game, and hoping we get the W in the Rivalry in Dixie. GOOOO DAWGS!! ^_^

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(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Just how well does the teams you’ve play pass the ball? I know how well the teams we have played passed the ball. But I guess that doesn’t have any effect on the passing defense numbers though does it? You see, I don’t know if you have played anyone who throws the ball as well as we do.

I will go ahead and say, USM is one of the best passing teams I've seen this year across college football. Very fundamentally sound. Abraham doesn't miss his targets, and his targets don't drop passes. And the WR's as a whole run some of the best routes I've seen all year.

(10-17-2019 10:52 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 06:01 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  Update, 3-4 Troy beat #125 South Alabama last night.

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Troy is actually a decent team. If they can get their defense going they are a dangerous team. They are 3-3. Two of their losses were by 7 points or less. They might mess around and could win the SB this year.

you're right, they're 3-3 (I assumed most teams would have played their 7th game by this Saturday, maybe Troy has already taken 2 biweeks?)

If you look at the pic/table below, it gives some data on yds/attempt and yds/completion on passing offense and defense for all of our FBS opponents, conference teams, and ArkSt. I included ArkSt because they beat Troy in a similar fashion to you.

Look at the green parts for conference, and yellow is OOC. I'm copying this information from a message I posted on our pay site, so it will include us (Tech):


Cool notes:

SoMiss has 13th ranked Defense for passes allowed, pass/attempt, and pass/completion in conference (#105 nationally)

We have the 10th, 2nd, and 1st respectively (3rd-Alabama and UAB- and 2nd -Alabama, respectively) with 6.38 pass yds/attempt and 10.17 pass yds/attempt.

Alabama appears to play a similar bend-don't break 3-4 pass defense to ours... Alabama limited Jack to ~170yds passing, while averaging 202yds/game at 44th. 30yds difference...

Troy, SoMiss's best win according to the Massey Composite (beating #125 SoAlabama and #129 Akron) has close losses to SoMiss and ArkSt. SoMiss has the top in pass-yds/attempt and 2nd (behind UAB) in pass-yds/completion. ArkSt. Would rank 3rd and 5th respectively. Troy has an elite rush defense (93yds/game), but a suspect pass defense (287, 9.13, 14.63), and these stats show why SoMiss was able to win there.

UNT is SoMiss's 2nd best win. Their pass defense is more respectable (227, 7.43, 11.78), but their rush defense is suspect (181yds/game). SoMiss miraculously had their best rushing game of the season vs UNT. I'd say that opened them up for easier passing.

With both more than an extra yds/attempt and yds/completion better pass defense than UNT, it should be interesting to see how we match up.

FIU, our best win, has a better passing defense (190, 6.79, 12.13), and roughly the same rushing defense as UNT (187yds/game). We exceeded both stats, but SoMiss only exceeded the passing (but by 200yds, vs ~100 for both pass and run each for us)

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Just how well does the teams you’ve play pass the ball? I know how well the teams we have played passed the ball. But I guess that doesn’t have any effect on the passing defense numbers though does it? You see, I don’t know if you have played anyone who throws the ball as well as we do.

That's a bit of a difficult answer. The two closest we've played are Texas and FIU. FIU's numbers are a bit skewed, so I'll try to just use Morgan's numbers (he missed 1.5 games when injured midway through the FIU game, replacement Wiggins is more of a running QB who had 185yds rushing vs FCS).

Texas has #20th ranked passing offense with 7.8 yds/pass attempt (just below 3rd in CUSA, and 3yds/pass attempt below you) and 11.3 yds/pass completion (below 10th in CUSA). We all know Texas's SOS (LSPoo, Rice, WVU, OkST, Oklahoma). Big12 defenses aren't as bad as previous years, FYI.

In our game, Texas had 7yds/pass attempt, and 9.8yds/pass completion, so we held them to 0.8yds below average pass attempt, and 1.5yds below average pass completion.

FIU with Morgan has 1050yds passing on 83/133. That's 7.9yds/pass attempt and 12.65 yds/pass completion (5th and 5th in conference, respectively). Their passing offense in games he's finished (i.e. excluding WKU injured in 1st half and NH) is 265yds per game, which is 5th in conference. FIU's SOS with Morgan playing the full game (Tulame, UNCC, UMass)

In our game, FIU had 9.6yds/pass attempt and 13.58yds/pass completion, so he had better on 1.7yds/pass attempt and 0.93yds/completion.

So middle of the road. I will say that our defense has been a work in progress, as we've installed a new system (more 3-4, like you guys, more bend don't break, watching the replay of your Alabama game, it seems like we play similarly to them).

Plus, our depth on our DL has been weak, only getting back to full strength with UConn GradTransfer DT Murphy (Former UConn HC & Broyles award winner DC Diaco's recruit at UConn; Murphy and Diaco were part of the only team to beat that 13-1 Houston team that beat chOKlahoma in 2017, Coogin' it; reminds me of us blowing the 34-7 lead vs Houston in the 4th Q 2011, then you guys gave them their only loss in the CUSA Champ game) returning from a fall camp injury. Our DL is definitely our weakest link, but hopefully with the added depth from Murphy, we'll get more pressure on QBs and stops in the run game.

Murphy slowly got worked in vs UMass, and should be a larger contributor this week

Anyways, 1.5 more days, looking forward to a good game, and hoping we get the W in the Rivalry in Dixie. GOOOO DAWGS!! ^_^

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I'll also say this about this year's defense, outside of possibly DC Diaz's defense in 2014 (he was a magician), I'd say our defense this year has the best chance of stopping your style of offense than any other we've had since joining CUSA. DC Baker ran our defense kinda like Diaz, but they often lacked fundamental techniques (i.e. poor tackling) and he pretty much was incapable of making in game or halftime adjustments. DC Diaco runs the defense with those things, but gives up a bunch of yards.

The point though: Baker often either blitzed like crazy, or poorly played prevent. Diaco has a few blitzes, but he'll aim to keep the ball in front of us until the redzone. Diaco's system should be better than Baker's of taking care of your YAC offense, in my mind.

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(10-17-2019 10:58 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I will go ahead and say, USM is one of the best passing teams I've seen this year across college football. Very fundamentally sound. Abraham doesn't miss his targets, and his targets don't drop passes. And the WR's as a whole run some of the best routes I've seen all year.

Thanks for the kind words, but the WR's do in fact drop passes. A number of them. If not for flat out drops by WR's open by more than 10 yards against UNT we would have had a 20 point lead on them at halftime.

(10-17-2019 11:19 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:58 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I will go ahead and say, USM is one of the best passing teams I've seen this year across college football. Very fundamentally sound. Abraham doesn't miss his targets, and his targets don't drop passes. And the WR's as a whole run some of the best routes I've seen all year.

Thanks for the kind words, but the WR's do in fact drop passes. A number of them. If not for flat out drops by WR's open by more than 10 yards against UNT we would have had a 20 point lead on them at halftime.

Drops happen to everyone. Last year's WR for Tech was actually one of the worst at drops in the FBS according to Pro Football Focus. It has improved a bit, but some of those big ones you just wish to see what could have been.

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Dropped plenty vs Rice.