(09-30-2019 02:17 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Except there isn't a "Virginia AAC" spot

Virginia is a missing piece in the middle of the AAC puzzle. JMU could be the leading candidate but the AAC is not going to invite a fcs football program.

(09-30-2019 03:09 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 02:34 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:42 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:10 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:06 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  This what I would like to hear and it need not speak poorly of the CAA.

1) jmu has outgrown/spent fcs football
2) jmu is actively seeking a better home for jmu football

Knowing jmu is selling JMU to the AAC, any evidence that football is being shopped more than "answer the phone" comments when pushed.

Is it so bad to say something like "the CAA has been great and while we continue to compete in the CAA we have not and will not leave a stone unturned as we actively shop JMU athletics to maximize the brand."

To me that is communication and transparency and it is not speaking poorly of the CAA.

Would you tell your current job and coworkers that if you felt it was true about your career? How do you think that would play out if we said that publicly?

If we continue to let the admin offer unclear conference motivations it is a matter of time until ODU takes the Virginia AAC spot and JMU will still be fcs. Jumped twice with better facilities and damn near better evetything else...this will happen...tic toc

You didn't answer my questions. What is the benefit for publicly announcing our intentions and how do they outweigh pissing off our current conference and conference mates?

I mean gosh it worked out so well for Liberty

Liberty publically wanted fbs. Liberty is fbs. Liberty's fan base is growing. Liberty is at the table with VT, UVA and ODU and plays each regularly.

JMU can't schedule Liberty, ODU, VT or UVA for home games. None are on a schedule foe any game.

JMU is in a sandbox with Norfolk State and Hampton.

We are better than this...

(09-30-2019 03:42 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 03:09 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 02:34 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:42 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:10 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Would you tell your current job and coworkers that if you felt it was true about your career? How do you think that would play out if we said that publicly?

If we continue to let the admin offer unclear conference motivations it is a matter of time until ODU takes the Virginia AAC spot and JMU will still be fcs. Jumped twice with better facilities and damn near better evetything else...this will happen...tic toc

You didn't answer my questions. What is the benefit for publicly announcing our intentions and how do they outweigh pissing off our current conference and conference mates?

I mean gosh it worked out so well for Liberty

Liberty publically wanted fbs. Liberty is fbs. Liberty's fan base is growing. Liberty is at the table with VT, UVA and ODU and plays each regularly.

JMU can't schedule Liberty, ODU, VT or UVA for home games. None are on a schedule foe any game.

JMU is in a sandbox with Norfolk State and Hampton.

We are better than this...

If 10 years ago right after 3 years of Rascati, and 2 years of Landers someone would of said, "In 7 years....."

FBS
UMass
Georgia Southern
Appy State
Coastal Carolina
Ga State
ODU
Charlotte
Liberty

FCS

JMU


Who would of believed that would be possible? Look at that.......

7 of those programs I felt were below us. In my opinion we were similar to App State.

7 schools from the Mid Atlantic moved up and we were not one of them?

This still takes my breath away in a bad way.........

If 10 years ago right after 3 years of Rascati, and 2 years of Landers someone would of said, "In 7 years....."

FBS
UMass
Georgia Southern
Appy State
Coastal Carolina
Ga State
ODU
Charlotte
Liberty

FCS

JMU


Who would of believed that would be possible? Look at that.......

7 of those programs I felt were below us. In my opinion we were similar to App State.

7 schools from the Mid Atlantic moved up and we were not one of them?

This still takes my breath away in a bad way.........


This is the best post of the year.

I'm pro FBS, I'm even pro FBS as an Indy(prefer it over most G5's personally), so just keep that in mind.

But why do people think we were on par with App State football? Yes, we were the best in 2004 and we were right there in on field performance in 2007 and 2008, but that was it. App State was a consistent power. They had 20k fans consistently before we could even seat 15k. They built their indoor practice facility over a decade ago, we built ours just last year. We are better than many of the recent FCS move-ups, but we weren't nearly as established as App State.

(10-01-2019 09:26 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  I'm pro FBS, I'm even pro FBS as an Indy(prefer it over most G5's personally), so just keep that in mind.

But why do people think we were on par with App State football? Yes, we were the best in 2004 and we were right there in on field performance in 2007 and 2008, but that was it. App State was a consistent power. They had 20k fans consistently before we could even seat 15k. They built their indoor practice facility over a decade ago, we built ours just last year. We are better than many of the recent FCS move-ups, but we weren't nearly as established as App State.

I get it and agree, but it was just a tick below. I think back to when Marshall moved up. They had done about all they could do with FCS football. They were consistently winners and they had about maxed out the growth of their attendance. Then Appy followed Marshall with consistency at the top and maxing out their crowds. I believe we are there now. It's difficult for us to find good competition that peeks the Fan's interest that will grow our crowds at BFS.

Agreeing with you is contingent upon only considering football, when I look at the total athletic programs, we are at the minimum equal to, if not exceeding Appy, and Marshall too for that matter. If our MBB and BB could simply be respectable, along with an FBS football schedule, we'd be hands down out front of each with our total athletics.

(10-01-2019 10:34 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 09:26 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  I'm pro FBS, I'm even pro FBS as an Indy(prefer it over most G5's personally), so just keep that in mind.

But why do people think we were on par with App State football? Yes, we were the best in 2004 and we were right there in on field performance in 2007 and 2008, but that was it. App State was a consistent power. They had 20k fans consistently before we could even seat 15k. They built their indoor practice facility over a decade ago, we built ours just last year. We are better than many of the recent FCS move-ups, but we weren't nearly as established as App State.

I get it and agree, but it was just a tick below. I think back to when Marshall moved up. They had done about all they could do with FCS football. They were consistently winners and they had about maxed out the growth of their attendance. Then Appy followed Marshall with consistency at the top and maxing out their crowds. I believe we are there now. It's difficult for us to find good competition that peeks the Fan's interest that will grow our crowds at BFS.

Agreeing with you is contingent upon only considering football, when I look at the total athletic programs, we are at the minimum equal to, if not exceeding Appy, and Marshall too for that matter. If our MBB and BB could simply be respectable, along with an FBS football schedule, we'd be hands down out front of each with our total athletics.

As I said based on results & support - JMU was arguably the 2nd best program in 2004-2008 and were on our way to an upgraded stadium. We had already built the state of the art APC.

The only team that you might put ahead of JMU for #2 would of been Montana.

If not Appy, which of the other 7 mid-atlantic teams/programs that moved up was more similar to JMU as far as support and success back in 2004-2008?

The Appy fan that responded obviously agreed to my post......

(09-30-2019 03:54 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 03:42 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 03:09 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 02:34 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:42 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  If we continue to let the admin offer unclear conference motivations it is a matter of time until ODU takes the Virginia AAC spot and JMU will still be fcs. Jumped twice with better facilities and damn near better evetything else...this will happen...tic toc

You didn't answer my questions. What is the benefit for publicly announcing our intentions and how do they outweigh pissing off our current conference and conference mates?

I mean gosh it worked out so well for Liberty

Liberty publically wanted fbs. Liberty is fbs. Liberty's fan base is growing. Liberty is at the table with VT, UVA and ODU and plays each regularly.

JMU can't schedule Liberty, ODU, VT or UVA for home games. None are on a schedule foe any game.

JMU is in a sandbox with Norfolk State and Hampton.

We are better than this...

If 10 years ago right after 3 years of Rascati, and 2 years of Landers someone would of said, "In 7 years....."

FBS
UMass
Georgia Southern
Appy State
Coastal Carolina
Ga State
ODU
Charlotte
Liberty

FCS

JMU


Who would of believed that would be possible? Look at that.......

7 of those programs I felt were below us. In my opinion we were similar to App State.

7 schools from the Mid Atlantic moved up and we were not one of them?

This still takes my breath away in a bad way.........

Each one of those move-up to FBS schools had a President that wanted to do that and led the charge.

none of them but Appy have any success to show for it

(10-01-2019 03:39 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  none of them but Appy have any success to show for it

None of them but Appy looked like JMU at the FCS level. They didn’t have any real success in FCS either, so not a surprise.

(10-01-2019 03:39 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  none of them but Appy have any success to show for it

I'm not so sure about that.

Do you think Ga State think's a win at UT is a success and move forward?

Do you think ODU thinks back to back competitive national games versus UVA and Tech is not a success? Do you think ODU thinks a home win versus Tech is not a success?

Etc.

I think you could come up with a lot of these situations for most if not just about all of these Universities.

Other than perhaps Umass - do you think there are fans at other schools that wish they could go back to FCS? The same %s of JMU fans that wish they would move up?

Dukester dateline=' Wrote:  If 10 years ago right after 3 years of Rascati, and 2 years of Landers someone would of said, "In 7 years....."

FBS
UMass
Georgia Southern
Appy State
Coastal Carolina
Ga State
ODU
Charlotte
Liberty

FCS

JMU

Who would of believed that would be possible? Look at that.......

7 of those programs I felt were below us. In my opinion we were similar to App State.

7 schools from the Mid Atlantic moved up and we were not one of them?

This still takes my breath away in a bad way.........

Dukester dateline=' Wrote:  If not Appy, which of the other 7 mid-atlantic teams/programs that moved up was more similar to JMU as far as support and success back in 2004-2008?

Georgia and Massachusetts aren’t mid Atlantic. 7 schools from the East Coast moved up. Carry-on..

(10-01-2019 04:26 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

Dukester dateline=' Wrote:  If 10 years ago right after 3 years of Rascati, and 2 years of Landers someone would of said, "In 7 years....."

FBS
UMass
Georgia Southern
Appy State
Coastal Carolina
Ga State
ODU
Charlotte
Liberty

FCS

JMU

Who would of believed that would be possible? Look at that.......

7 of those programs I felt were below us. In my opinion we were similar to App State.

7 schools from the Mid Atlantic moved up and we were not one of them?

This still takes my breath away in a bad way.........

Dukester dateline=' Wrote:  If not Appy, which of the other 7 mid-atlantic teams/programs that moved up was more similar to JMU as far as support and success back in 2004-2008?

Georgia and Massachusetts aren’t mid Atlantic. 7 schools from the East Coast moved up. Carry-on..

I said 7, ie not including UMass - I guess technically not GSU, but they are in the same relative area.