(09-11-2019 01:24 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-10-2019 11:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?
Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.
If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.
Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.
Quote:If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher?
You are honestly stupid.
Quote:Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.
You are going to pick out one quarter to defend White? Ferguson was without Miller and Henderson btw. Now, not only are you crapping on our offensive line, wide receivers and tight ends, you are now crapping on Ferguson.
His percentage wasn't higher because he never had a game where 9 of his first 10 passes didn't travel past the line of scrimmage. Those 9 passes traveled an aggregate -21 yards from the line of scrimmage, btw. The pass that traveled 30 yards was thrown way late and out of bounds. The original target on that play was 5 yards downfield and wide open, but White was late on that one and had to scramble.
Ferguson never had a game where 2/3 of his passes traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. If White tried to play like Ferguson it would be a total disaster. His completion percentage would be under 50%.
Quote:Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.
This is the most idiotic of all your points. Not only are you giving credit to White for playing soft toss behind the line of scrimmage, you are now giving him credit for Henderson, Taylor and Pollard going on those crazy runs.
You need help.
My only response is to the bolded and how it almost becomes impossible for this to be the case, without the opposite then being true.
Brady's yd/attempt last year was 8.4. Riley was worse as a Junior at 8.3 and better his 2nd year at 9.0.
So, if Brady is to average 8.4 an attempt based the the bold faced scenarios--here's what has to happen:
We know he has a 63% completion rate--which (at the lowest common comparison) would be going 7 of 11.
So, his 11 attempts (yds/att) will have to get him 92 yards, and he has to do that in 7 completions.
If he literally was making 2, 3, and 4 yard completions he is going to have to get some huge completions to get to that 92 yards.
Let's say in his seven completions, his first four go for 5 yards each. That means he was 20 yards in four completions. He then has to get 72 yards in his last three completions to get to his 8.4 yards per attempt at the 63% completion rate. So that is three passes for 24 yards.
And to the opposite, since Riley essentially performed the same as Brady his Jr. year and Riley was bombing passes downfield--lets say his first three passes went 25, 20, and 19--that means his last four completions will only cover 28 yards--or basically 7 yards per completion.
What it boils down to when comparing Riley and Brady (since their yd/att and completion % are essentially identical) is that every time one says Brady only completes short passes, that means he HAS to complete some bombs to get the yd/att average up.
And everytime someone says Riley was the king of the deep throw, they are completely discounting the idea that every deep throw means he has to complete two or three dinky dunk passes to bring the average back down.