(09-08-2019 06:06 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 05:33 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  '93 to '96. IMO, we only have one true rival, TCU. Houston is the other school we might consider a rival. I really wish we still played Baylor in both sports.

As for UNT, playing them doesn't move the needle at all for our fan base (see yesterday's attendance). Plus, it is a no win situation for SMU. Lately they have been good but they are still a C-USA team with no name recognition. If we win it is because we should. If we lose, it just sinks us further in football obscurity. TCU and any other regional P5 are the schools we should play every year in OOC, ideally Baylor.

Yeah, like I said, we aren't keen on calling them a rival. But they probably brought 10k to the stands yesterday, paid, and so we schedule them.

As far as scheduling the likes of Baylor, TTU, etc. I'm all for that, as everybody is, but of course they are going to say the same thing about us; i.e. leave 'em behind, playing them does nothing for our program, we have everything to lose by doing so, etc., etc. And unlike UNT, we don't buy 10k tickets to away games, even TCU. It's reasons like that we haven't been able to schedule Texas since you were in school - not once.

So, UNT is the best of some not so great options for right now. Hopefully scheduling picks up.

We will just have to agree to disagree that UNT is the best of not so great options right now. I think they are one of the worst options available for reasons I mentioned above. If we are scheduling schools just because they bring their fans to Ford, then we are doing it all wrong. We should be scheduling OOC opponents that attract our fans to the games and will elevate our program on the field.

(09-08-2019 06:09 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 05:43 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 05:33 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 03:40 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 02:39 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I went to SMU in the 90s and I have followed the football and basketball programs closely ever since. That said, can you please tell me when UNT became a rivalry game for SMU? That is news to me.

Did you go in the early 90's or late? BIG difference in the state of the program, especially when it came to opponents.

It's a little one sided, TBH. SMU isn't really ready to acknowledge it as a 'rivalry' yet.

But we've started playing each other on a regular basis, as I believe we should, due to the fact that we need some help with a game people will care about and put butts in the seats. They probably brought 5-10k yesterday, and that helps.

Plus, I hope they drill Cal next week, as they are capable of doing, IMO.

'93 to '96. IMO, we only have one true rival, TCU. Houston is the other school we might consider a rival. I really wish we still played Baylor in both sports.

As for UNT, playing them doesn't move the needle at all for our fan base (see yesterday's attendance). Plus, it is a no win situation for SMU. Lately they have been good but they are still a C-USA team with no name recognition. If we win it is because we should. If we lose, it just sinks us further in football obscurity. TCU and any other regional P5 are the schools we should play every year in OOC, ideally Baylor.

Haven’t they won 4 of the last 10? That is not beating up your sister. But I truly admire how you disrupted the big boys during the Dickerson era. It was beautiful.

I guess they have, but what does that prove? We have been bad at football for the better part of the last 30 years. Beating us during this time is nothing to brag about.
Again, we gain nothing by playing UNT. Why not play Baylor or Okie St or Arkansas instead? Beating a P5 school means something and these schools will bring as many fans as UNT do.

At the end of the day, it is about emotion for your fans - and playing winnable games. It’s why we have the series against VT - we are VT’s NTX. I know SMU enjoyed putting it on NTX last night; it was and felt personal. And I’m sure Pony and the SMU faithful walked out of the stadium like peacocks last night saying “Not in our House.” Just like I walked out of our venues last year against VT and vcu. Not in our house, not today!

You know, something was bothering me and I couldn't quite put my finger on it...then it hit me:
Bowl Records!

This result could not be true, as SMU lost a bowl game a couple years ago! I mean, maybe UCF at the top of our conference, and SJSU is at the bottom of the mwc, but it's just unpossible that SMU and Tulane beat teams viewed as contenders in a G4 league.

I mean, AAC bowl records, right?!

(09-08-2019 01:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 01:14 PM)RaplhTheGreetest! Wrote:  This fellow from ODu is uncouth.

He has a wicked hangover this morning

And you a salty mouth. How you doin?

(09-08-2019 06:06 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(09-08-2019 05:33 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  '93 to '96. IMO, we only have one true rival, TCU. Houston is the other school we might consider a rival. I really wish we still played Baylor in both sports.

As for UNT, playing them doesn't move the needle at all for our fan base (see yesterday's attendance). Plus, it is a no win situation for SMU. Lately they have been good but they are still a C-USA team with no name recognition. If we win it is because we should. If we lose, it just sinks us further in football obscurity. TCU and any other regional P5 are the schools we should play every year in OOC, ideally Baylor.

Yeah, like I said, we aren't keen on calling them a rival. But they probably brought 10k to the stands yesterday, paid, and so we schedule them.

As far as scheduling the likes of Baylor, TTU, etc. I'm all for that, as everybody is, but of course they are going to say the same thing about us; i.e. leave 'em behind, playing them does nothing for our program, we have everything to lose by doing so, etc., etc. And unlike UNT, we don't buy 10k tickets to away games, even TCU. It's reasons like that we haven't been able to schedule Texas since you were in school - not once.

So, UNT is the best of some not so great options for right now. Hopefully scheduling picks up.

Baylor isn’t against a football series with SMU. Played in 2003, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016. Other games in 2011 and 2013 got cancelled due to Big 12 realignment (BU lost a noncon spot dropping to 10 teams) and SMU backing out in 2013.

It’s a good series to renew