Coast Guard is apparently using the Navy's Andros Underwater Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) as a base from which to conduct relief efforts in the Bahamas. Unless you dealt with undersea warfare in the Navy, you've probably never heard of AUTEC, but it's really an amazing little place.

(09-07-2019 11:42 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 09:51 AM)Niner National Wrote:  In actual Dorian news, thousands are expected to have died in the Bahamas. Apparently the islands hit hardest reak of decomposing bodies. I'm sure the actual death toll will be considerably higher than official as there are apparently a lot of illegal hatian immigrants on those islands.

Yea, this is gonna be really, really ugly. There are entire extended families of 19, 23, 42 whatever that are simply missing.
The toll will likely be in 4 if not 5 figures. There’s nothing left on Abaco isle. May never recover/ be resettled.

I'm betting 5 figures, unfortunately. When a hurricane hits an island, it complicates relief efforts exponentially.

(09-07-2019 02:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The storm never even got close to Alabama, and Trump put lives in danger because he is a stupid ass clown pretending to be President.

You must have missed the statement NOAA put out admitting that Trump was right, and that the NWS Birmingham account shouldn’t have spoke in absolutes, because what they said wasn’t true.

(09-07-2019 12:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 02:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The storm never even got close to Alabama, and Trump put lives in danger because he is a stupid ass clown pretending to be President.

You must have missed the statement NOAA put out admitting that Trump was right, and that the NWS Birmingham account shouldn’t have spoke in absolutes, because what they said wasn’t true.

Correct, because if a hurricane is close to the Alabama coast, and you havent evacuated yet, its going to be hell getting out. Some of our friends lived in the FLorida panhandle when Ivan hit, got stuck in traffic, and ended up driving back to their house, and rode the hurricane out. (Which they then admitted was a very stupid idea, because it was nasty.)

And when a hurrucane approaches from the atlantic side first, its even worse, because the entire FLorida peninsula has to head up that direction as well. You have to be DAYS ahead of something like this.

(09-07-2019 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 12:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 02:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The storm never even got close to Alabama, and Trump put lives in danger because he is a stupid ass clown pretending to be President.

You must have missed the statement NOAA put out admitting that Trump was right, and that the NWS Birmingham account shouldn’t have spoke in absolutes, because what they said wasn’t true.

Correct, because if a hurricane is close to the Alabama coast, and you havent evacuated yet, its going to be hell getting out. Some of our friends lived in the FLorida panhandle when Ivan hit, got stuck in traffic, and ended up driving back to their house, and rode the hurricane out. (Which they then admitted was a very stupid idea, because it was nasty.)

And when a hurrucane approaches from the atlantic side first, its even worse, because the entire FLorida peninsula has to head up that direction as well. You have to be DAYS ahead of something like this.

I watched Harvey hit Corpus Christi and didn’t think much of it at the time. Then 3 days later, my parents were moving in with me because their house was under 5 feet of water. The original track never had Harvey making a practical 180 degree turn and heading back into the Gulf.

Notice how 3 days out, the Texas/Louisiana border is completely out of the cone of uncertainty, yet there were places which ended up with 50+ inches of rain.

If Trump would have told Houstonians to be prepared, the left would have called him a science denying idiot and a conspiracy theorist.

(09-07-2019 01:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 12:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 02:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The storm never even got close to Alabama, and Trump put lives in danger because he is a stupid ass clown pretending to be President.

You must have missed the statement NOAA put out admitting that Trump was right, and that the NWS Birmingham account shouldn’t have spoke in absolutes, because what they said wasn’t true.

Correct, because if a hurricane is close to the Alabama coast, and you havent evacuated yet, its going to be hell getting out. Some of our friends lived in the FLorida panhandle when Ivan hit, got stuck in traffic, and ended up driving back to their house, and rode the hurricane out. (Which they then admitted was a very stupid idea, because it was nasty.)

And when a hurrucane approaches from the atlantic side first, its even worse, because the entire FLorida peninsula has to head up that direction as well. You have to be DAYS ahead of something like this.

I watched Harvey hit Corpus Christi and didn’t think much of it. Then 3 days later, my parents were moving in with me because their house was under 5 feet of water. The original track never had Harvey making a practical 180 degree turn and heading back into the Gulf.

Notice how 3 days out, the Texas/Louisiana border is completely out of the cone of uncertainty, yet there were places which ended up with 50+ inches of rain.

If Trump would have told Houstonians to be prepared, the left would have called him a science denying idiot and a conspiracy theorist.

What part of "storm never got close to Alabama" do you two dummies not understand. That tweet has nothing to do with the statement made by David. Just proves that Trump was wrong, and Birmingham was right. No impact. Not even close.

(09-07-2019 01:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What part of "storm never got close to Alabama" do you two dummies not understand. That tweet has nothing to do with the statement made by David. Just proves that Trump was wrong, and Birmingham was right. No impact. Not even close.

You're saying that with the benefit of hindsight, and no, NOAA made a point to say what Birmingham said WAS NOT right. Read their tweet. Birmingham spoke in absolutes, while they were inside the 30% probability on Friday and 10% probability on Sunday of experiencing hurricane force winds.

Also, just because something is outside the cone of uncertainty one day, doesn't mean it will be the next. Reference my Hurricane Harvey example. If the cone of uncertainty was foolproof (meaning anyone outside of it has 0% chance of being impacted), east of Houston to the Louisiana border wouldn't have had anything to worry about. That wasn't the case.

Most voters are low information voters that will indeed vote based on tweets, trends, and middle school style insults. Trump understands this. Fighting this prevents the "Trump is an idiot" connotation that ruined many before him. These voters would be asleep after reading one paragraph from William F Buckley. The intellectual types are gone and swallowed up by the Government-Industry complex. It will take a Bernie Sanders (all Government, no industry) to start getting them back. This election will be won or lost on Twitter.

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(09-07-2019 11:42 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 09:51 AM)Niner National Wrote:  In actual Dorian news, thousands are expected to have died in the Bahamas. Apparently the islands hit hardest reak of decomposing bodies. I'm sure the actual death toll will be considerably higher than official as there are apparently a lot of illegal hatian immigrants on those islands.

Yea, this is gonna be really, really ugly. There are entire extended families of 19, 23, 42 whatever that are simply missing.

The toll will likely be in 4 if not 5 figures. There’s nothing left on Abaco isle. May never recover/ be resettled.

Abaco Island only had 25,000 residents to begin with, so I'm hopeful that at worst it will be 4 figures and not 5. I saw a quote this morning that said only animals can live there now. Nature has likely reclaimed that island for good.

(09-07-2019 01:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What part of "storm never got close to Alabama" do you two dummies not understand. [sic] That tweet has nothing to do with the statement made by David. Just proves that Trump was wrong, and Birmingham was right. No impact. Not even close.

If you know anything about hurricanes, you know that where the storm actually went is pretty much irrelevant to the question of who should be prepared. We were being cautious here on the Texas Coastal Bend, because we do know something about hurricanes. And one of those things we know is that too late is too late.

(09-07-2019 03:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 01:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What part of "storm never got close to Alabama" do you two dummies not understand. [sic] That tweet has nothing to do with the statement made by David. Just proves that Trump was wrong, and Birmingham was right. No impact. Not even close.

If you know anything about hurricanes, you know that where the storm actually went is pretty much irrelevant to the question of who should be prepared. We were being cautious here on the Texas Coastal Bend, because we do know something about hurricanes. And one of those things we know is that too late is too late.

Indeed.

This might be the ultimate tweet in the history of tweets, lol

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(09-07-2019 03:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-07-2019 01:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  What part of "storm never got close to Alabama" do you two dummies not understand. [sic] That tweet has nothing to do with the statement made by David. Just proves that Trump was wrong, and Birmingham was right. No impact. Not even close.

If you know anything about hurricanes, you know that where the storm actually went is pretty much irrelevant to the question of who should be prepared. We were being cautious here on the Texas Coastal Bend, because we do know something about hurricanes. And one of those things we know is that too late is too late.

w/o question....just ask NOLA

all I saw was another Katrina churning in the wake early in the game...

there's certain things you don't piss around with in any version of 420...

FBI = Not believable
DOJ = Not believable
CIA = Not believable
EPA = Not believable
Government in general = Not believable.

Anonymously signed NOAA statement = TOTALLY believable.

That about sum it up for you guys?

(09-09-2019 10:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FBI = Not believable
DOJ = Not believable
CIA = Not believable
EPA = Not believable
Government in general = Not believable.

Anonymously signed NOAA statement = TOTALLY believable.

That about sum it up for you guys?

Orange man bad.

that about sum it up for you?

Trump is wrong, and whoever Tweeted that from NOAA should be fire. That person is just an ass kisser to Trump like many Republicans are these days. Abe Lincoln is rolling in his grave as the Republican party died in 2016.

(09-10-2019 05:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Trump is wrong, and whoever Tweeted that from NOAA should be fire. That person is just an ass kisser to Trump like many Republicans are these days. Abe Lincoln is rolling in his grave as the Republican party died in 2016.

Quote:While NOAA’s Friday statement was not attributed to a specific person, the Washington Post subsequently reported that according to an unnamed agency official, the NOAA’s Trump-appointed acting administrator, Neil Jacobs, and the agency’s communications director, Trump campaign veteran Julie Kay Roberts, “were involved” in drafting the statement. The Post’s source also claimed that the Commerce Department, which oversees the NOAA, had approved the message — though at a time when Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross was not in the country.

How Trump’s False Dorian Forecast Sparked a Crisis at NOAA

No way!

(09-06-2019 06:03 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 06:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I expect you loons to now apologize and disavow your statements you made to your president. Trump was right again.

#StillNotTired

So trump pressured someone to lie.
This isn't the first time.
You believe the lie.
Isn't the first time for that either.

You called it. Wilbur Ross. Lol

(09-10-2019 08:21 AM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 06:03 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 06:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I expect you loons to now apologize and disavow your statements you made to your president. Trump was right again.

#StillNotTired

So trump pressured someone to lie.
This isn't the first time.
You believe the lie.
Isn't the first time for that either.

You called it. Wilbur Ross. Lol

Amateur hour in the white house is so stupid right now that it's just plain predictable. So is the response by the lemmings. 4D chess is more like a game of duck duck goose.