the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

(09-01-2019 12:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 10:25 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The demise of the SEC has been greatly exaggerated. Auburn scores the first signature win of the season. Great comeback.

The SEC had 6 losses in the regular season ooc last year. They had 4 in the first week and were 9 seconds from #5. And none of the ooc losses were by Kentucky, Vanderbilt or Mississippi St. and only 1 was vs. a P5. Some people liked Missouri and Tennessee to challenge for the SEC East title.

I somehow don't think that it will affect anything by the end of the year. Ohio State or Penn State will win the Big 10. Alabama, L.S.U., or Georgia will win the SEC and Auburn since they play all 3 and Florida will likely have a say as to which one it is. It will be Texas and Oklahoma in the Big 12, and Oregon, Washington State, Washington, and possibly U.S.C. will be in play for the PAC. Clemson should breeze again in the ACC.

It was the first week. Some will improve and some will get worse. And nobody who knows a damn thing about SEC football thought that Missouri and Tennessee would challenge, just the usual preseason hype that isn't worth the paper it's printed on or the air time it takes up on the tube by so many talking heads that can't average .500 on their predictions year to year.

Nothing has changed from last year. The West will be Alabama and L.S.U. and the East will be Georgia with Florida a distant 2nd. I do think the bottom however will be 3 - 4 teams this year and one of them won today, Arkansas.

Ole Miss lost by 5 on the road. Missouri by 6 on the road. South Carolina was neutral site. Tennessee is the one with a whole lot of 'splainin to do. Did anyone but Oklahoma State play a P5 for the Big 12? La Tech, Indiana State, Northern Iowa, James Madison, Montana State, Stephen F. Austin, Arkansas Pine Bluff, and Nichols with Houston left to play. Oregon State was the best scalp the Big 12 has taken so far. And only 1 of those G5 and less is even from the AAC and none from the MWC.

I'd say Auburn's win the last 9 seconds tops any of those.

(08-31-2019 10:10 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wyoming beats Mizzou

Wyoming came to do business. Mizzou did not. Those turnovers counted for most of Wyoming's points, but they made turnovers happen. Kelly Bryant will win a bunch of games this year if he can resist throwing into triple coverage. Props to the Cowboys and the MWC.

(09-01-2019 01:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

Well technically 4: Miami, Duke, Oregon, Vanderbilt.

You just don’t see SEC teams losing to the G5 like this. Nobody gave UNC a chance this year and they topple an SEC foe week 1. The SEC is appearing to be quite top heavy, so is the bottom half of the SEC down?

Of course because I’m a UNC fan the ACC is brought up. Well, FSU sucks and has a horrible coach. I expected that Boise win.

(08-31-2019 11:27 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 10:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Tennessee is slightly worse than Florida State losing at home to Boise in the heat.

Wat?

GSU slightly better than everybody... lol

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(08-31-2019 08:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  I think this is a good stat to keep track of.

WTF? You are an ACC fan so you should be posting a thread about ACC Week One losses.

There were a few of those, LOL.

(09-01-2019 01:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

I will finish your sentence for you

.......and then the conference drops off into a steaming pile of crap

Seriously, there is no justifying the bottom of this conference. It is U-G-L-Y

Tennessee really looked awful in losing to Georgia State. Truly the worst loss of the weekend. There is no middle ground in this conference. You are either contending for a National Championship, or you are playing some real garbage football

(08-31-2019 10:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 08:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  I think this is a good stat to keep track of.

Tennessee goes down to Georgia State.

South Carolina loses to Carolina.

Auburn on watch.

Vandy is done.

Discuss.

Vandy equals Virginia Tech both losing in conference.

South Carolina equals Miami both losing to rivals and by 4.

Tennessee is slightly worse than Florida State losing at home to Boise in the heat.

Ole Miss has been down scholarships and quite frankly Memphis was better.

Missouri's A.D. should be fired for scheduling Wyoming on the road where they are tough on everyone.

The SEC is 2-1 against the ACC in the opening weekend and 1-0 against the PAC, where Auburn's true freshman QB found his confidence in the 2nd half.

The favorites in the West were L.S.U., Alabama, and A&M who all won in blowouts, and Auburn who is in the mix but not favored did well enough tonight against a higher ranked school with a veteran QB. Miss State and Arkansas survived opening weekend. Ole Miss did not.

The East has been weaker but the two favorites Georgia and Florida both won with Georgia winning on the road handily and Florida beating in state rival Miami in an ugly game. Kentucky survived. South Carolina, Tennessee, and Missouri did not while Vandy lost in conference.

That pretty well sums it up. For what it's worth I don't think Alabama will win the West. I think L.S.U. will. And I don't see anyone matching up with Georgia in the East.

Tennessee was the true embarrassment on the day for the SEC. They were lousy in all aspects of the game including strength and conditioning and the mental game.

South Carolina had the talent to have won but Muschamp (name a big game he has won) played it way too close to the vest with an 11 point lead and the ball on UNC's side of the field after a turnover. Carolina found its confidence and Muschamp missed his chance.

Memphis and Wyoming were just better.

Why try and compare to the ACC? Deflecting from the SEC losses?

If we are comparing conferences, the Big 10 by far looks like the best conference. They don't get eaten by their cupcake games, they hang 80 points on em

(08-31-2019 10:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  War Damn Eagle! Auburn comes back to beat Oregon led by true frosh QB Bo Nix. Huge win to set the tone for the season.

Many talking heads considered Oregon the PAC’s best chance to make the playoffs this year. Not sure it ends the Ducks chances but this certainly makes it harder for them.

I liked Georgia State Head Coach Shawn Elliott’s comment.

“The SEC says It just means more.... Today it meant more to us”

(09-01-2019 08:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 10:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  War Damn Eagle! Auburn comes back to beat Oregon led by true frosh QB Bo Nix. Huge win to set the tone for the season.

Many talking heads considered Oregon the PAC’s best chance to make the playoffs this year. Not sure it ends the Ducks chances but this certainly makes it harder for them.

What talking heads? ESecPN??

Utah and Washington are 1-0

(09-01-2019 08:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 01:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

I will finish your sentence for you

.......and then the conference drops off into a steaming pile of crap

Seriously, there is no justifying the bottom of this conference. It is U-G-L-Y

Tennessee really looked awful in losing to Georgia State. Truly the worst loss of the weekend. There is no middle ground in this conference. You are either contending for a National Championship, or you are playing some real garbage football

Yep. This has been the case pretty routinely over the last few years, too. This isn't an ACC vs. SEC thing either, this is strictly an SEC thing with the kind of rhetoric the media and fans spout about the conference.

(09-01-2019 01:26 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 12:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 10:25 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The demise of the SEC has been greatly exaggerated. Auburn scores the first signature win of the season. Great comeback.

The SEC had 6 losses in the regular season ooc last year. They had 4 in the first week and were 9 seconds from #5. And none of the ooc losses were by Kentucky, Vanderbilt or Mississippi St. and only 1 was vs. a P5. Some people liked Missouri and Tennessee to challenge for the SEC East title.

I somehow don't think that it will affect anything by the end of the year. Ohio State or Penn State will win the Big 10. Alabama, L.S.U., or Georgia will win the SEC and Auburn since they play all 3 and Florida will likely have a say as to which one it is. It will be Texas and Oklahoma in the Big 12, and Oregon, Washington State, Washington, and possibly U.S.C. will be in play for the PAC. Clemson should breeze again in the ACC.

It was the first week. Some will improve and some will get worse. And nobody who knows a damn thing about SEC football thought that Missouri and Tennessee would challenge, just the usual preseason hype that isn't worth the paper it's printed on or the air time it takes up on the tube by so many talking heads that can't average .500 on their predictions year to year.

Nothing has changed from last year. The West will be Alabama and L.S.U. and the East will be Georgia with Florida a distant 2nd. I do think the bottom however will be 3 - 4 teams this year and one of them won today, Arkansas.

Ole Miss lost by 5 on the road. Missouri by 6 on the road. South Carolina was neutral site. Tennessee is the one with a whole lot of 'splainin to do. Did anyone but Oklahoma State play a P5 for the Big 12? La Tech, Indiana State, Northern Iowa, James Madison, Montana State, Stephen F. Austin, Arkansas Pine Bluff, and Nichols with Houston left to play. Oregon State was the best scalp the Big 12 has taken so far. And only 1 of those G5 and less is even from the AAC and none from the MWC.

I'd say Auburn's win the last 9 seconds tops any of those.

The AJC writer picked Missouri as #2. Tennessee has been getting a lot of hype in these parts for challenging Georgia and Florida.

(09-01-2019 08:57 AM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 08:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 01:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

I will finish your sentence for you

.......and then the conference drops off into a steaming pile of crap

Seriously, there is no justifying the bottom of this conference. It is U-G-L-Y

Tennessee really looked awful in losing to Georgia State. Truly the worst loss of the weekend. There is no middle ground in this conference. You are either contending for a National Championship, or you are playing some real garbage football

Yep. This has been the case pretty routinely over the last few years, too. This isn't an ACC vs. SEC thing either, this is strictly an SEC thing with the kind of rhetoric the media and fans spout about the conference.

Typically what sets the SEC apart is a very strong middle. That doesn't appear to be the case this year.

(09-01-2019 07:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 08:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  I think this is a good stat to keep track of.

WTF? You are an ACC fan so you should be posting a thread about ACC Week One losses.

There were a few of those, LOL.

You don't hear ACC fans talk about how Wake Forest would be a title contender in any other conference in the country.

(09-01-2019 07:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 08:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  I think this is a good stat to keep track of.

WTF? You are an ACC fan so you should be posting a thread about ACC Week One losses.

There were a few of those, LOL.

I'm a college football fan and the SEC has been the undisputed king of conferences.

I should be posting about whatever I want, Mr. Censor Man!

(09-01-2019 09:08 AM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 07:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-31-2019 08:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  I think this is a good stat to keep track of.

WTF? You are an ACC fan so you should be posting a thread about ACC Week One losses.

There were a few of those, LOL.

You don't hear ACC fans talk about how Wake Forest would be a title contender in any other conference in the country.

"Wake Forest would be a title contender in your conference. Please invite them"

I say that sometimes

(09-01-2019 08:57 AM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 08:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 01:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the top 6 SEC teams all are 1-0 and have 3 P5 wins already.....

I will finish your sentence for you

.......and then the conference drops off into a steaming pile of crap

Seriously, there is no justifying the bottom of this conference. It is U-G-L-Y

Tennessee really looked awful in losing to Georgia State. Truly the worst loss of the weekend. There is no middle ground in this conference. You are either contending for a National Championship, or you are playing some real garbage football

Yep. This has been the case pretty routinely over the last few years, too. This isn't an ACC vs. SEC thing either, this is strictly an SEC thing with the kind of rhetoric the media and fans spout about the conference.

Really? As Bullet pointed out the SEC did quite well last year in OOC games. I think the critical point that SEC critics are not making is that none of these losses this year were by 1st year coaches since the SEC had no coaching changes last year.

Fair criticism that has been offered is that suggesting the bottom will be bigger and the middle is shrinking. That wasn't true last year. And it has not been consistently true.

The bottom of the SEC last year was Arkansas and Tennessee. Everybody else had at least 5 wins.

I'd say not much has changed at either of those schools except for Arkansas slipped by yesterday.

This year it looks as though the bottom (less than 5 wins) might include Ole Miss. Just their West schedule with yesterday's loss put them in jeopardy.

The best looking SEC after week 1 was L.S.U.. Alabama had their way with Duke but 1 thing was looking shaky. Bama's rushing attack wasn't that much of a factor. It was a short passing game to fast backs and receivers that bumfuzzled Duke. Alabama's D is still very strong. I'm just saying they didn't look complete after week 1 and L.S.U. did. Texas A&M is quietly sitting out there and we'll know more about them after next week.

The middle this year will be smaller but not by much. I suspect that Kentucky and Mississippi State will be there with. Ole Miss might make it and might not. And depending on how they develop Auburn could be upper tier or drop down to the middle by the end of the year. We do have to play Alabama, L.S.U., Georgia, and Florida this year so we'll see. The D is there but a true freshman QB usually means some good surprises and some bad ones. Texas A&M might be upper tier or could slip to the middle as well.

But hey that's why you play the games.

So in the end I think the top of the SEC (9 wins or more) will have 3 (maybe 4).
The upper middle will have 3 (7-8 wins).
The lower middle will have 3 or 4 (5-6 wins).
And the bottom (fewer than 5 wins) will have 3 or 4. So for all of the schadenfreude maybe a shift of 1 or 2

Opening weekend proved that the 2019 SEC has depth issues. The teams at the top are probably good but the rest of the conference has been exposed as being mere mortals. Ole Miss and Missouri can’t just shrug and say they were on the road.