(11-10-2019 02:25 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 01:45 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 11:44 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Arkansas going to grab Norvell sure as schnitzel

I think Arky waits and sees how Auburn finishes the season. Gus and the admin on the Plains might agree to their separate ways allowing the ‘Backs to hire The coach they really want.

We all know Malzahn is from Arkansas, but if he was going to leave Auburn, and if he had the opportunity to go to either Florida State or Arkansas, he'd take the FSU job.

I would seriously doubt FSU would want Malzahn.

If I were Norvell, I'd want a buy out so high, at the Arkansas job, that it would guarantee he gets 4 to 6 years to turn the program around. I could easily see the boosters firing him after 2 years if they don't show immediate improvement and it's probably going to take more than 4 years. That program is putrid right now. Really I think they should give Chad Morris 2 more years but that's not going to happen.

(11-11-2019 01:14 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 02:25 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 01:45 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 11:44 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Arkansas going to grab Norvell sure as schnitzel

I think Arky waits and sees how Auburn finishes the season. Gus and the admin on the Plains might agree to their separate ways allowing the ‘Backs to hire The coach they really want.

We all know Malzahn is from Arkansas, but if he was going to leave Auburn, and if he had the opportunity to go to either Florida State or Arkansas, he'd take the FSU job.

I would seriously doubt FSU would want Malzahn.

FSU wants Bob Stoops or Urban Meyer, but no one better than Malzahn will take that job.

(10-09-2019 12:39 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(10-09-2019 12:23 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 01:36 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Either Illinois or Rutgers needs to hire Jeff Monken. Guy has rebuilt two programs including one that is a notoriously difficult place to win, and he's got Army performing arguably better than they have in past 30+ years even while Navy and Air Force are both solid.

We've repeatedly seen B1G teams struggle when facing the academies, so taking one of these programs and becoming the Georgia Tech of the B1G that presents a weekly matchup difficulty is what these programs should go for. They're never going to compete doing the same thing as the big programs. Time to do something different.

The advantage that Army has that has allowed them to play big time teams like OU and Michigan close is the fact that the offense is something exotic these teams are not used to seeing every year. If Rutgers were to employ the offense it loses that mystique with their Big 10 East opponents because it's now something you have to prepare for every single year starting in spring camp.

That's a lot easier said than done. While Clemson (your team) may not have had much trouble with Georgia Tech, Paul Johnson punched above their weight a lot of years. Same thing with Navy in the AAC, as we see them pulling upsets in conference play that shouldn't be happening based on pure talent level.

Both years that UCF played Navy, we should have blown them out. Instead, both were very tight games, and that was even with Scott Frost as the practice squad QB the first year with his experience running the option at full speed. It's very hard to practice against that offense for a few days in the summer and a few days the week of the game.

And regardless, nothing else is working for Illinois or Rutgers, so what do they have to lose?

Don't look now, but Lovie has Illinois on the rise.

I don’t think you’re going to see a P5 team run the triple option for a while. Unless something changes, those programs are trying to attract guys that want to play in the NFL and the triple option won’t prepare them for that.

I love the triple option, it’s classic college football. Rice should try to make a play for Monken or Paul Johnson.

Would have been interesting to see BYU wrangle in the Navy coach because their schedule is littered with P5 teams.

(11-10-2019 12:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw a really interesting point that the early signing period moved into December is making that 1st recruiting class for incoming coaches trash basically, and totally making that 2nd year jump that we see a lot of times a whole lot tougher.....

I think the yearly scholarship limits hurt a lot too. Coaches used to be able to take 30 or 32 in those first classes to get back up to 85. But with a cap of only 25 spots it means coaches are basically on probation their first few years

The spread option has difficulty at the P5 level because it takes away your ability to recruit NFL caliber playmakers and completely kills your ability to sign high level WR, OL, and TE. The spread option would probably work a treat in the NFL where you can just go buy what you need.

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Nice to see the coaching cycle beginning to take shape. My guess for jobs today:

Rutgers - Greg Schiano
Arkansas - Mike Norvell
Florida State - Mark Stoops

- in turn -

Memphis - Chip Long
Kentucky - Butch Jones

Bobby Wilder better be gone on Dec. 1

(11-11-2019 07:19 AM)esayem Wrote:  I don’t think you’re going to see a P5 team run the triple option for a while. Unless something changes, those programs are trying to attract guys that want to play in the NFL and the triple option won’t prepare them for that.

I love the triple option, it’s classic college football. Rice should try to make a play for Monken or Paul Johnson.

Would have been interesting to see BYU wrangle in the Navy coach because their schedule is littered with P5 teams.

I agree with you here. What's more is that the blocking rules have been so altered as to make a successful triple option practically impossible at the P5 level.

I also agree with Wedge's assessment of who might or might not be willing to make the move to F.S.U.. Right now there is much more going on at F.S.U. than just the dismissal of Taggert. I doubt many people want to step into that mess until the Boosters and Administration are on the same page.

Malzahn knows that all recruiting in Arkansas would essentially be out of state. He also knows that in Florida at least the recruits would be available immediately and that he could show improvement year over year for about 3 or 4 years before expectations got much higher.

Malzahn's issues are in how he manages assistants. He would have been gone 2 years ago if not for Kevin Steele's defense.

At Arkansas he would have the boosters behind him but it is going to be a total rebuild. That program has hit rock bottom.

But Bob Stoops and Urban Meyer will only step back in if it is a premier program with lots of money and upside. Meyer and USC make sense. The last thing Meyer wants to face is his old assistant Mullen. Urban can't succeed without an excellent OC. He had Mullen at Florida and when Dan left Urban's success went South. He had one at Ohio State and when he left for Texas his success dipped. So FSU is the last place Urban would head.

I don't know who FSU will get but I agree it will be Malzahn level or lower.

Any chance Mario Cristobal wants to get back to the state of Florida?

(11-11-2019 02:54 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Any chance Mario Cristobal wants to get back to the state of Florida?

I don't think the Ducks would be too happy about losing another coach to the Noles.

Arkansas lost Ty Storey as a QB who transferred to Western Kentucky while Ben Hicks transferred from SMU who Morris coached at SMU to be starter at Arkansas. Ty Storey have better success at WKU and beat his former team. Would Arkansas won more games under Storey than under Hicks? Bad call to throw Storey away.

Arkansas has an amazing lineage of lightning rod coaches. Houston Nutt, Petrino, Bielema. Chad Morris went out with a whimper.

There are rumors that App State's head football coach Eliah Drinkwitz is on Arkansas's list to replace Chad Morris. He is an Arkansas Tech grad graduated in 2004.

(11-11-2019 08:57 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are rumors that App State's head football coach Eliah Drinkwitz is on Arkansas's list to replace Chad Morris. He is an Arkansas Tech grad graduated in 2004.

Will you vouch for him?

Arkansas should get Willie Taggart

(11-11-2019 08:57 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are rumors that App State's head football coach Eliah Drinkwitz is on Arkansas's list to replace Chad Morris. He is an Arkansas Tech grad graduated in 2004.

App State is having a great season with Drinkwitz at the helm, but I'm not sure I'd be on board with that hire if I was an Arkansas fan. Yes he has some Arkansas ties and is doing great this year, but he still only has one year of head coach experience and at a program that was very strong when he took over. Very different situation than fixing the dumpster fire Hogs program and having to go against the SEC West.

(11-11-2019 08:57 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are rumors that App State's head football coach Eliah Drinkwitz is on Arkansas's list to replace Chad Morris. He is an Arkansas Tech grad graduated in 2004.

Did you know him on campus? He might be the Wonder Boy the Ozarks need.

(11-11-2019 03:23 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 02:54 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Any chance Mario Cristobal wants to get back to the state of Florida?

I don't think the Ducks would be too happy about losing another coach to the Noles.

As much as FSU alums and boosters don't want to use Oregon as a talent pipeline.