(07-16-2019 09:15 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: If Daddy Espin come calling and says, “I want you to add so and so when UCONN exits.” The AAC will add so and so when UCONN exits. I don’t care what Aresco says.
That's the correct answer, but who is "Daddy ESPN" going to say is worth the money to add? Some people keep acting like Aresco and AAC sources keep saying they are going to add no one whether ESPN likes it or not. Only thing they've said really is that they are only going to add a member if they feel it adds value to the league, and my guess is ESPN feels the exact same way about that.
This. The media rights deal for C-USA is a few hundred grand per school. ESPN isn't going to agree to pay $7M/year for anyone currently in C-USA.
I certainly don't think they will, but hey maybe I'm flat out wrong. Maybe ESPN wants to pay annually more for 1 school in C-USA than their total TV deal pays the entire league per year. Makes perfect sense to me.
Its the same concept as why the Big 12 did not add two schools a couple years ago. It was cheaper for the networks to negotiate their pro-rata clause in their contract as opposed to paying 2-4 more available schools; and it was more lucrative for the existing 10 members to keep the money for themselves.
(07-16-2019 09:15 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: If Daddy Espin come calling and says, “I want you to add so and so when UCONN exits.” The AAC will add so and so when UCONN exits. I don’t care what Aresco says.
That's the correct answer, but who is "Daddy ESPN" going to say is worth the money to add? Some people keep acting like Aresco and AAC sources keep saying they are going to add no one whether ESPN likes it or not. Only thing they've said really is that they are only going to add a member if they feel it adds value to the league, and my guess is ESPN feels the exact same way about that.
This. The media rights deal for C-USA is a few hundred grand per school. ESPN isn't going to agree to pay $7M/year for anyone currently in C-USA.
I certainly don't think they will, but hey maybe I'm flat out wrong. Maybe ESPN wants to pay annually more for 1 school in C-USA than their total TV deal pays the entire league per year. Makes perfect sense to me.
Its the same concept as why the Big 12 did not add two schools a couple years ago. It was cheaper for the networks to negotiate their pro-rata clause in their contract as opposed to paying 2-4 more available schools; and it was more lucrative for the existing 10 members to keep the money for themselves.
Yeah I'm not and never have been in the camp that think that the AAC is just going to stay at 11 and be allowed to split the exact same amount of money among 11 instead of 12. The deal will get renegotiated down some, but I would expect the per school payout to remain pretty much the same and the overall conference distribution to go up with 1 less school getting a share of the other revenue. So that's how I see this working out for a "raise" for the rest of the AAC members. Either way though I suspect ESPN would probably rather just pay 7 million or so less a year to the AAC than pay 7 million a year for any of the candidates outside of the likely no's.
Nobody will be added. Aresco said that yesterday during Media Day. I imagine the AAC will keep its $7M per school, and simply lose UConn's share, but not more than that.
(07-16-2019 08:37 AM)bit_9 Wrote: Aresco said today - no addition.
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The AAC may end up taking a pass on expansion but I don't think Aresco's comments are a game-ender. He's talking about not targeting anyone right now, which makes sense because there's no point in outlining your expansion plans (if any) while UConn's exit is still a work in progress. He even said as such in this Cincinnati Enquirer story:
Quote:"We have no plans at this point to add a member to replace UConn," Aresco said. "We're not targeting anyone. We're not sure at this point when UConn's exit will be. Negations have been amicable. Down the road if there's someone interested in us that could enhance our strength and brand we would consider it. But I would reiterate what I've said in multiple interviews: We're a powerful conference..."
"Down the road" sounds vague and distant, but it could easily be "when we settle up with UConn." If he came out today and said that the AAC was planning to replace UConn, it gives them leverage against the conference in their exit negotiations. Sure, UConn would like to join the Big East as soon as possible, but they need to firm up their football plans, and the AAC has already let it be known that they don't want UConn football on its own. So the AAC already has more incentive to cut a quick deal than UConn, which is secure in the knowledge that they'll be in the Big East by 2022 at the latest.
If the AAC is courting or listening to potential replacements, or even if they stay mum on it (in conference realignment, no comment IS a comment), UConn can then turn around and say, "OK, you'd like to see us leave, I think there's a way to expedite the process," which would involve a reduced exit fee, football scheduling considerations or both. Aresco's not going to step in it publicly like that.
Don't put away your Risk boards just yet. This game's not over.
Good point on exit considerations. Could UConn still be in the AAC for 20/21? At least for Football ?
(07-16-2019 08:37 AM)bit_9 Wrote: Aresco said today - no addition.
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The AAC may end up taking a pass on expansion but I don't think Aresco's comments are a game-ender. He's talking about not targeting anyone right now, which makes sense because there's no point in outlining your expansion plans (if any) while UConn's exit is still a work in progress. He even said as such in this Cincinnati Enquirer story:
Quote:"We have no plans at this point to add a member to replace UConn," Aresco said. "We're not targeting anyone. We're not sure at this point when UConn's exit will be. Negations have been amicable. Down the road if there's someone interested in us that could enhance our strength and brand we would consider it. But I would reiterate what I've said in multiple interviews: We're a powerful conference..."
"Down the road" sounds vague and distant, but it could easily be "when we settle up with UConn." If he came out today and said that the AAC was planning to replace UConn, it gives them leverage against the conference in their exit negotiations. Sure, UConn would like to join the Big East as soon as possible, but they need to firm up their football plans, and the AAC has already let it be known that they don't want UConn football on its own. So the AAC already has more incentive to cut a quick deal than UConn, which is secure in the knowledge that they'll be in the Big East by 2022 at the latest.
If the AAC is courting or listening to potential replacements, or even if they stay mum on it (in conference realignment, no comment IS a comment), UConn can then turn around and say, "OK, you'd like to see us leave, I think there's a way to expedite the process," which would involve a reduced exit fee, football scheduling considerations or both. Aresco's not going to step in it publicly like that.
Don't put away your Risk boards just yet. This game's not over.
Good point on exit considerations. Could UConn still be in the AAC for 20/21? At least for Football ?
The Liberty Bowl director is at media days and said the conference is still working on whether it'll be for '20 or '21 fball season. Mr. Ehrhart also said he brought up several schools to Aresco who shut it down saying "No, we're not going to take any calls right now."
(07-16-2019 01:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote: I am surprise that FCS schools are mentioned. Someone did a video on the next AAC school to join, and 4 top FCS schools have been mentioned.
James Madison
Chattanooga
Youngstown State
North Dakota State as football only.
Can you link the video? Hard to imagine Penguins and Pirates intermingling.
(07-16-2019 01:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote: I am surprise that FCS schools are mentioned. Someone did a video on the next AAC school to join, and 4 top FCS schools have been mentioned.
James Madison
Chattanooga
Youngstown State
North Dakota State as football only.
Can you link the video? Hard to imagine Penguins and Pirates intermingling.
Found it. He only mentions the FCS schools after his serious contenders.
(07-16-2019 01:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote: I am surprise that FCS schools are mentioned. Someone did a video on the next AAC school to join, and 4 top FCS schools have been mentioned.
James Madison
Chattanooga
Youngstown State
North Dakota State as football only.
Can you link the video? Hard to imagine Penguins and Pirates intermingling.
Found it. He only mentions the FCS schools after his serious contenders.
NDSU seems the more serious one out of the lot which could bring alue to football. They are better on field than any of the MWC, CUSA and BYU right now.
(07-16-2019 01:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote: I am surprise that FCS schools are mentioned. Someone did a video on the next AAC school to join, and 4 top FCS schools have been mentioned.
James Madison
Chattanooga
Youngstown State
North Dakota State as football only.
Can you link the video? Hard to imagine Penguins and Pirates intermingling.
Found it. He only mentions the FCS schools after his serious contenders.
Seems legit. He did put on a clean undershirt so I’m gonna assume this guy knows what he’s talking about.
(07-16-2019 09:15 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: If Daddy Espin come calling and says, “I want you to add so and so when UCONN exits.” The AAC will add so and so when UCONN exits. I don’t care what Aresco says.
(07-16-2019 01:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote: I am surprise that FCS schools are mentioned. Someone did a video on the next AAC school to join, and 4 top FCS schools have been mentioned.
James Madison
Chattanooga
Youngstown State
North Dakota State as football only.
Can you link the video? Hard to imagine Penguins and Pirates intermingling.
Found it. He only mentions the FCS schools after his serious contenders.
David, the next time you upload a video to YouTube you should really put on a nicer shirt.
(07-16-2019 09:15 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: If Daddy Espin come calling and says, “I want you to add so and so when UCONN exits.” The AAC will add so and so when UCONN exits. I don’t care what Aresco says.
That's the correct answer, but who is "Daddy ESPN" going to say is worth the money to add? Some people keep acting like Aresco and AAC sources keep saying they are going to add no one whether ESPN likes it or not. Only thing they've said really is that they are only going to add a member if they feel it adds value to the league, and my guess is ESPN feels the exact same way about that.
Perhaps, but ESPN might want the twelfth team because they are paying for 12 teams, not 11. So if BYU wont bite (ESPN could force their hand as well), then it might be the best leftover option.
I don't think ESPN forces BYU's hand because it would probably result in fewer P5 games on the BYU schedule going forward, and ESPN has a vested interest in getting high-profile games from a BYU contract. Plus it might result in a net decrease in inventory if you're mixing BYU's games into the AAC deal.
BYU and Boise are the only non-PAC teams that draw big ratings for them that are fine taking that very late tv window. At the very least they’ll try and hold BYU’s 5 or so home games as insurance against the next P12 negotiation so they aren’t caught having to make Central time zone teams play later.
Also as an independent they can help time BYU’s non-P5 road games Vs the MWC for later in the year which enhances the games they get in their MWC contract. BYU as an independent helps on two fronts.
(07-15-2019 04:32 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: Note the question is WILL not should
Why didn't you include West Virginia in your choices?
It's there in the second last choice, along with Nebraska, FSU, Mississippi State, Colorado and a whole heap of other P5 schools in or neighboring the AAC footprint.
"Should" is not zero, but "will" is, because nobody who wants to be in the AAC is wanted by the AAC.
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2019 10:38 PM by BruceMcF.)
(07-16-2019 08:37 AM)bit_9 Wrote: Aresco said today - no addition.
33 of us
The AAC may end up taking a pass on expansion but I don't think Aresco's comments are a game-ender. He's talking about not targeting anyone right now, which makes sense because there's no point in outlining your expansion plans (if any) while UConn's exit is still a work in progress. He even said as such in this Cincinnati Enquirer story:
Quote:"We have no plans at this point to add a member to replace UConn," Aresco said. "We're not targeting anyone. We're not sure at this point when UConn's exit will be. Negations have been amicable. Down the road if there's someone interested in us that could enhance our strength and brand we would consider it. But I would reiterate what I've said in multiple interviews: We're a powerful conference..."
"Down the road" sounds vague and distant, but it could easily be "when we settle up with UConn." If he came out today and said that the AAC was planning to replace UConn, it gives them leverage against the conference in their exit negotiations. Sure, UConn would like to join the Big East as soon as possible, but they need to firm up their football plans, and the AAC has already let it be known that they don't want UConn football on its own. So the AAC already has more incentive to cut a quick deal than UConn, which is secure in the knowledge that they'll be in the Big East by 2022 at the latest.
If the AAC is courting or listening to potential replacements, or even if they stay mum on it (in conference realignment, no comment IS a comment), UConn can then turn around and say, "OK, you'd like to see us leave, I think there's a way to expedite the process," which would involve a reduced exit fee, football scheduling considerations or both. Aresco's not going to step in it publicly like that.
Don't put away your Risk boards just yet. This game's not over.
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