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(07-17-2019 09:47 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/heres-much...bers-2017/

Aresco made the same as the SEC commish in 2017 (around $2mm) Problem is the SEC had about $600mm in revenue and the AAC had about $75mm. Wake up.

when people are trying to make a point but dont realize they are doing the EXACT opposite

my 3 yr old nephew could be the commissioner of the best football conference in america and get a huge tv deal

aresco has the harder job than the SEC commissioner.....also there is no decision he can make that wont be criticized unlike the SEC

under the wrong commish right now and we would be on BeIn or facebook/stadium making less than a mill.....
6 years ago most were arguing that the MWC was a better conference ..6 years later they are praying for a tv deal thats half our value if they are lucky
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(07-15-2019 01:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  Memphis coach Mike Norvell talks expectations, concerns ahead of AAC Media Days

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...719307001/

He's worried about complacency, but how can you be complacent coming off a 6-loss season?
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(07-17-2019 10:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 09:47 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/heres-much...bers-2017/

Aresco made the same as the SEC commish in 2017 (around $2mm) Problem is the SEC had about $600mm in revenue and the AAC had about $75mm. Wake up.

when people are trying to make a point but dont realize they are doing the EXACT opposite

my 3 yr old nephew could be the commissioner of the best football conference in american and get a huge tv deal

aresco has the harder job than the SEC commissioner.....also there is no decision he can make that wont be criticized unlike the SEC

under the wrong commish right now and we would be on BeIn or facebook/stadium making less than a mill.....
6 years ago most were arguing that the MWC was a better conference ..6 years later they are praying for a tv deal thats half our value if they are lucky

Wrong thread. There is already a thread debating how pissed everyone is about not making $2m a year anymore.
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(07-17-2019 09:24 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 09:17 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  So where is all the media day coverage? I feel like I’ve seen about an hour of content between Aresco and the coaches interviews.

Did they do a round-table this time?


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They did a round table with the coaches yesterday, broke up into 3 sections (4 coaches at a time). I watched some on the facebook feed. A couple of topics were the targeting rule, and shoe companies' involvment in college athletics.

Found it. They uploaded some videos of them last night to Youtube.
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(07-17-2019 09:16 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-16-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  dana holgerson in the media day interview (without even being asked) reemphasized that he wants to retire in houston.. that he has chased the p5 dream but is ready to settle down

ive always said they key to making an elite program in the g5 is just having a decent coach willing to stay...coach p rejecting p5 offers for 6 years is the reason boise became elite

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Exactly what I thought when I read that....
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(07-17-2019 09:16 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-16-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  dana holgerson in the media day interview (without even being asked) reemphasized that he wants to retire in houston.. that he has chased the p5 dream but is ready to settle down

ive always said they key to making an elite program in the g5 is just having a decent coach willing to stay...coach p rejecting p5 offers for 6 years is the reason boise became elite

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Exactly what I thought when I read that....

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Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.
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(07-18-2019 12:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.

its worked pretty well for all the conferences that adopted that model... *sarcasm*
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(07-18-2019 12:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.

While I believe this post to be completely false, why would Cincinnati of all schools get a higher payout? Football success? Ratings? NCAA credits? What am I missing?
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(07-18-2019 01:11 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(07-18-2019 12:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.

While I believe this post to be completely false, why would Cincinnati of all schools get a higher payout? Football success? Ratings? NCAA credits? What am I missing?

Teams that can't get out of the first round deserve more.
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(07-18-2019 01:11 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(07-18-2019 12:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.

While I believe this post to be completely false, why would Cincinnati of all schools get a higher payout? Football success? Ratings? NCAA credits? What am I missing?

its true cincy newspaper got their ADs emails again through a request for information law

it was in February before the deal was done...he wanted to see if we could have a "merit" based payout system
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(07-18-2019 01:11 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(07-18-2019 12:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Sounds like UC's AD, Mike Bohn wrote a letter to Aresco after the media deal. He feels UC and some of the other conference heavy hitters should get a bigger piece of the revenue pie. I agree with him.

While I believe this post to be completely false, why would Cincinnati of all schools get a higher payout? Football success? Ratings? NCAA credits? What am I missing?

Oh it be true...
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(07-16-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  dana holgerson in the media day interview (without even being asked) reemphasized that he wants to retire in houston.. that he has chased the p5 dream but is ready to settle down

ive always said they key to making an elite program in the g5 is just having a decent coach willing to stay...coach p rejecting p5 offers for 6 years is the reason boise became elite

hoping for the best

But does this mean he won't be working as hard to improve UH to another level Stay status quo. Hopefully not just getting a paycheck.
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(07-18-2019 06:36 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(07-16-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  dana holgerson in the media day interview (without even being asked) reemphasized that he wants to retire in houston.. that he has chased the p5 dream but is ready to settle down

ive always said they key to making an elite program in the g5 is just having a decent coach willing to stay...coach p rejecting p5 offers for 6 years is the reason boise became elite

hoping for the best

But does this mean he won't be working as hard to improve UH to another level Stay status quo. Hopefully not just getting a paycheck.

houston fires coaches for not winning, something he said he knows very clear....fired 2 above average coaches in our last 3 head coaches for not winning

he plans to retire here...but he isnt looking for a place to retire...just a place to lay his roots...

holgs is 20 years younger than tubbervile.. he isnt retiring anytime soon
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What would UH be paying him to get rid of him if he does not do well How much more can UH pay for another coach if Holgerson is fired? Getting another good A5 coaching job is not as likely when leaving an A5 job to go to UH, unless he knows that UH maybe moving up. It just sounded status quo to me, not a coach driven, like Frost.
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(07-18-2019 07:04 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  What would UH be paying him to get rid of him if he does not do well How much more can UH pay for another coach if Holgerson is fired? Getting another good A5 coaching job is not as likely when leaving an A5 job to go to UH, unless he knows that UH maybe moving up. It just sounded status quo to me, not a coach driven, like Frost.

what? frost said he would retire at ucf and it had to be something special (like home/nebraska) for him to want to leave....

frost is the worst example..as he basically said the same things..but just gave an exception....

we have a billionaire paying for everything, holgs is also on a contract where the buyout drops drastically after each year..getting rid of him after 2 bad seasons wouldnt be impossible

getting coaches to come to UH is also easy, because it is easy to win at UH ...elite recruiting ground, elite facilities and willing to pay more than anyone else
..thats supposedly the reason we got holgs...wvu had limitations (in context to its conference opponents) and houston was the big fish in its pond, and felt he could win at an elite level here
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Okay, I just listened to Aresco's opening remarks and Q&A.... He sounds like ESPN's little bich. Do we HAVE to do all that graveling? It's disturbing.
On negotiations this time around vs. 7 years ago.... "Yeah, we never really wanted to go anywhere else [other than ESPN]." Sounds like he could drive a real hard bargain (rolls eyes)...
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(07-19-2019 12:22 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Okay, I just listened to Aresco's opening remarks and Q&A.... He sounds like ESPN's little bich. Do we HAVE to do all that graveling? It's disturbing.
On negotiations this time around vs. 7 years ago.... "Yeah, we never really wanted to go anywhere else [other than ESPN]." Sounds like he could drive a real hard bargain (rolls eyes)...

the MWC all the other g5 ,including the MWC, are struggling with to retain their 2013 value...we more than tripled ours ...

whatever espn a** kissing he did is obviously a strategy that is working
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(07-19-2019 12:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 12:22 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Okay, I just listened to Aresco's opening remarks and Q&A.... He sounds like ESPN's little bich. Do we HAVE to do all that graveling? It's disturbing.
On negotiations this time around vs. 7 years ago.... "Yeah, we never really wanted to go anywhere else [other than ESPN]." Sounds like he could drive a real hard bargain (rolls eyes)...

the MWC all the other g5 ,including the MWC, are struggling with to retain their 2013 value...we more than tripled ours ...

whatever espn a** kissing he did is obviously a strategy that is working

Considering the lousy deal we started with wasn't paying our value and this new deal because of graduating payments won't be either, I'm not sure you are making the point you want to. Certainly not a 1.8m one.
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(07-19-2019 12:43 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 12:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 12:22 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Okay, I just listened to Aresco's opening remarks and Q&A.... He sounds like ESPN's little bich. Do we HAVE to do all that graveling? It's disturbing.
On negotiations this time around vs. 7 years ago.... "Yeah, we never really wanted to go anywhere else [other than ESPN]." Sounds like he could drive a real hard bargain (rolls eyes)...

the MWC all the other g5 ,including the MWC, are struggling with to retain their 2013 value...we more than tripled ours ...

whatever espn a** kissing he did is obviously a strategy that is working

Considering the lousy deal we started with wasn't paying our value and this new deal because of graduating payments won't be either, I'm not sure you are making the point you want to. Certainly not a 1.8m one.

the self "value" we have.. that doesn't dictate the market

legitimately people were projecting 3mil.. with cord cutting, and c-usa getting 200k per..major outlets including guys like mcmurphy were saying we would struggle to retain value. "the bubble has burst"..most non-aac were saying 3-4 mil max...

we come out on top

ive perfectly fine with him getting that money...and you guys re-affirmed that to me....he will forever be criticized, he was dealt a bad hand and is criticized for bringing in major gains because it wasn't the size of the mega-millions

year 1 of aresco ...the MWC was argued as a better league than ours when Boise and sdsu left...Boise would have been the football powerhouse of the aac had they joined perception wise....

year 6 of aresco- after years of pushing an crazy media campaign we arent even compared to them anymore, the national media just accepts us as better...we just got a 7mil (likely 6mil deal after production costs), and a bowl line up with 4-6 p5...they are struggling to get a 3mil deal..and we are hearing facebook/stadium is a legitimate landing spot for alot of their games with 1 p5 bowl

--he announces a bowl lineup with up to 6 potential p5 depending on the year..with zero evidence you push a theory that we wont get to choose our bowls anymore..with no credible evidence to back it. looking for a reason to hate with nothing confirmed...imagine being in aresco shoes and this was the recognition

no one in aresco shoes would win, everything is criticized .. im fine with the pay becuase of that

you guys are complaining about the .0001% chance of a better situation not happening...ignoring the 60% of it being drastically worse

something i thought about recently:
if we aresco had been in the MWC in 2013 and we had Thompson (their commish)
--i guarantee aresco would have pushed the narrative to have them being discussed as the best western conference (taking advantage of their slump).. going all over the media stating the east has multiple power conferences the west deserves that too, multiple state flagships etc. and then pushed a culture where all of them invested in their programs and refused to back down from the p5

--while thompson (who never does press) would have had us slowly dying like the c-usa, taking in programs that dont invest (like with sjsu)..caving on unequal revenue tv deals, aac vs c-usa basketball challenges (like the mwc vs mvc)..with our major goal to be the best g5 (somethinghe does say) with a Facebook stadium deal..and id be pretty sure aresco's mwc would be making multiple times what we are
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