(07-15-2019 05:14 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Cincy needs to join the Big East and leave their football in the AAC.

You suck.

I pity ur pathetic attempts

(07-15-2019 08:55 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 05:14 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Cincy needs to join the Big East and leave their football in the AAC.

You suck.

I pity ur pathetic attempts

Why throw shade on me, friend?

I was being serious. If I could put UC in the Big East for olympic sports and leave fb in the AAC, I would.

(07-16-2019 08:05 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Why throw shade on me, friend?

I was being serious. If I could put UC in the Big East for olympic sports and leave fb in the AAC, I would.

In that situation, I think Cincy would do better going indy in football. You have built in rivalries with MAC schools, probably could get a 1-1 with Marshall, and be guaranteed to play UConn and UMass every year.

But I would think too that since Xavier dominates the Cincinnati market with its BE brand, you have no chance of a return to your glory days.

UConn is already losing millions every year on football. They can't recruit, period.

I think American Basketball just have more potential than Big East and our upside is bigger. The jewry would be on Memphis Basketball this year. So will Houston Basketball.

(07-15-2019 04:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 03:58 PM)scoscox Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 02:57 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I know UConn has played Syracuse in non-conference games the last few seasons, but Syracuse is in the ACC so going to the Big East does not change anything with regard to Syracuse.

Yes, I only included them to illustrate that UConn still cares about those regional rivalries. Like I said they've also been playing Nova and just signed a deal with Providence prior to the move to the Big East. You seemed to be implying that UConn hasn't behaved in a way that showed they cared about playing those teams. On the contrary, they've actively been trying to schedule northeast big east teams for years and have made public statements as such. They've also apparently even made attempts to come back to the big east before this and been turned down according to Geno Auriemma and Dave Benedict. They definitely haven't stopped caring about those games.

1) do you have links to any of these quotes by geno or david benedict...all the quotes ive seen is geno has been pro big east not that they tried to join..provide proof

2) dont kid yourselve if uconn wanted a home and home with any big east they would have gotten it with ease ..dont make it seem like theyve been "trying" insinuating they couldn't get it

I don't think Cuse would sign a home now home with them. Gampel is too small for our Fan Base to get tickets in any numbers and XL is a dump (not sure if it has a long term future)

I could see possibly a 1-1-1 Cuse/MSG/XL as best case for UConn. The 20 game ACC schedule is starting. Cuse saved Georgetown and dumped UConn due to a numbers game.

(07-15-2019 04:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 03:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I truly appreciate everybody’s input and viewpoint. After carefully reading all comments, one thing is crystal clear: I’m right and anybody who disagrees with me is wrong.

Pin this.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if UConn only cares about basketball, then it's a good move. Maybe not financially, but for fans and travel and playing the BE tourney in MSG.

But if they give a crap about football (for now, admin says yes, but the fan base says a big fat no), then it's the worst move imaginable.

My take is they did what they wanted to do. Great. Bye.

Just don't blame the AAC for UConn's crap situation. They did it to themselves with the worst football team in the AAC, and arguably in FBS, and a mediocre performance in basketball since their miraculous natty in 2014. Oh, and mismanagement of the budget to the tune of a $40M annual deficit.

Spin that however makes you happy.

As for the fate of everybody else, as someone mentioned earlier, you could say the same for half the P5, and for that matter, only a handful of athletic programs are profitable anywhere, even with the great wealth of the P5.

College sports has always been a loss leader, and a burden on students, taxpayers and boosters. Nothing is likely going to substantially change, in that regard. It is used much like advertising, as a lure for new students, and as a rallying point for alumni donations.

I've never met a Genius that spends twice as much as he earns like UCONN and expects to survive.

Unless you're referencing a Federal Politician, they're a dime a dozen, and spend 10 times what they earn, lol.

This time 10 years ago, Memphis Football was in the bottom 10 of FBS programs. Locally, the same discussion was being proliferated. Scrap the Football Program. "On Campus Stadium" was a pipe dream...actually I guess that really still is a pipe dream, lol.

As with any major change in a sizeable Company, change had to come from the top. The Memphis boosters recognized Football drives the bus, hired a President that also shared that recognition, as well as an Athletic Director and a Football Coaching Staff that made it happen and got it done.

We have a brand-new Indoor Practice Facility under development now.

UCONN could have made that happen, but they chose a separate path.

(07-16-2019 07:19 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  This time 10 years ago, Memphis Football was in the bottom 10 of FBS programs. Locally, the same discussion was being proliferated. Scrap the Football Program. "On Campus Stadium" was a pipe dream...actually I guess that really still is a pipe dream, lol.

As with any major change in a sizeable Company, change had to come from the top. The Memphis boosters recognized Football drives the bus, hired a President that also shared that recognition, as well as an Athletic Director and a Football Coaching Staff that made it happen and got it done.

We have a brand-new Indoor Practice Facility under development now.

UCONN could have made that happen, but they chose a separate path.

Exactly. Connecticut also had the advantage of being one of the chosen Nike schools. How this did not work in the Huskies' favor, I do not know.

(07-15-2019 08:43 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I see a lot of people mocking UCONN and saying how dumb the move is, but after looking at everything, here is my take:

It was a great move for UCONN. They get to focus on basketball in the Big East, which is a better conference top to bottom with more brand power than the AAC.

Sure their football is hosed, but it was already hosed. What they did was take it out back and put a bullet in it instead of letting it die a long slow painful death, which is what EVERY G5 team is doing right now, but don't know it.

The mega subsidies we all are using to keep football afloat in the new P5 run world is not sustainable long term. A few schools in the group will probably get promoted to the P5 down the road, the rest won't. UCONN decided they were not going to make that cut and acted quickly. It was bold move but probably will pay off for them in the long run. When most of us in five or eight years are starting to slash football because state's pass legislation limiting subsides that can be spent on athletics, all we will have left is a mid-major basketball conference. Meanwhile, UCONN will be enjoying the Big East and power status.


Last laugh will be on most of you guys who, right now, are mocking UCONN for lacking vision in football. Really, they are the one's with vision.

Discuss...

I want to thank them for helping strengthen our football.

(07-15-2019 08:43 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I see a lot of people mocking UCONN and saying how dumb the move is, but after looking at everything, here is my take:

It was a great move for UCONN. They get to focus on basketball in the Big East, which is a better conference top to bottom with more brand power than the AAC.

Sure their football is hosed, but it was already hosed. What they did was take it out back and put a bullet in it instead of letting it die a long slow painful death, which is what EVERY G5 team is doing right now, but don't know it.

The mega subsidies we all are using to keep football afloat in the new P5 run world is not sustainable long term. A few schools in the group will probably get promoted to the P5 down the road, the rest won't. UCONN decided they were not going to make that cut and acted quickly. It was bold move but probably will pay off for them in the long run. When most of us in five or eight years are starting to slash football because state's pass legislation limiting subsides that can be spent on athletics, all we will have left is a mid-major basketball conference. Meanwhile, UCONN will be enjoying the Big East and power status.


Last laugh will be on most of you guys who, right now, are mocking UCONN for lacking vision in football. Really, they are the one's with vision.

Discuss...

All true plus UMass, Liberty, BYU and NMSU have proven that football independence does not mean death.

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(07-15-2019 10:05 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  I think people are underestimating the ability of G5 schools to maintain successful football programs. Football games are major events that keep alumni engaged with their school and community which has a major impact on donations (and not just athletic). It's also a major selling feature for prospective students thus improving the quality of enrollments.

You don't have to be Alabama for football to add value.

Now what if UConn is able to weather the next couple of years and start building an independent schedule....?

Hmmm...

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(07-16-2019 08:32 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:05 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Why throw shade on me, friend?

I was being serious. If I could put UC in the Big East for olympic sports and leave fb in the AAC, I would.

In that situation, I think Cincy would do better going indy in football. You have built in rivalries with MAC schools, probably could get a 1-1 with Marshall, and be guaranteed to play UConn and UMass every year.

But I would think too that since Xavier dominates the Cincinnati market with its BE brand, you have no chance of a return to your glory days.

4/10 on the Xavier troll attempt.

Constructive criticism: You should have went more subtle than "dominates". Even the most deranged UC fan/forum poster knows they get minimal local coverage. Keep in mind one school has 45,000 students and one has 5,000.

Hearing Pitt could help the huskies out with their future schedule with a 3 for 1. Personally not a fan because of what it’ll do to our SOS but the 3 for 1 would make a great headline. Maybe use UConn as our FCS game?

(07-15-2019 03:20 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 12:18 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 08:43 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I see a lot of people mocking UCONN and saying how dumb the move is, but after looking at everything, here is my take:

It was a great move for UCONN. They get to focus on basketball in the Big East, which is a better conference top to bottom with more brand power than the AAC.

Sure their football is hosed, but it was already hosed. What they did was take it out back and put a bullet in it instead of letting it die a long slow painful death, which is what EVERY G5 team is doing right now, but don't know it.

The mega subsidies we all are using to keep football afloat in the new P5 run world is not sustainable long term. A few schools in the group will probably get promoted to the P5 down the road, the rest won't. UCONN decided they were not going to make that cut and acted quickly. It was bold move but probably will pay off for them in the long run. When most of us in five or eight years are starting to slash football because state's pass legislation limiting subsides that can be spent on athletics, all we will have left is a mid-major basketball conference. Meanwhile, UCONN will be enjoying the Big East and power status.


Last laugh will be on most of you guys who, right now, are mocking UCONN for lacking vision in football. Really, they are the one's with vision.

Discuss...

Two things on this.

1) I would argue that they have a much much worse shot of ever enjoying power status by potentially making basketball incrementally better while destroying football. Could be wrong, but don't really see a path to P5 for them.

2) Many that weigh in on this issue act like we're not all in the same boat. I imagine you think Tulsa should give up, but I don't see you clamoring to cut Cincinnati's investment in athletics. I don't think UConn's move would be seen as a smart one if Utah or TCU had made it, because I don't think they would be in the PAC or B12, respectively, if they had.

UCF has shown that the difference between completely obscurity and national relevance is just a matter of a couple of good or bad football seasons. If UConn had put together seasons like UCF, or even Houston for that matter, over the past few years, they would be a constant topic of poaching speculation from the power conferences.

So call your administration and tell them you want to save some money and move down, or try to keep up like the rest of us.

We're not all in the same boat. UC has a much better chance of making a P5 than ECU. I usually try not to **** on other programs too much but if you want to talk about "keeping up," there is a chasm of conference alignment attractiveness between UC and ECU.

I appreciate your fandom, but that's ridiculous. There are about 16 teams, plus 6 conferences, that disagree with your assessment of Cincinnati's value to the power conferences.

This thread illustrates two things:

1) Why BC1 is an elite level troll. No one can get people riled up like it.

2) Why the AAC will never work long term. It's just a bunch of schools trying to tear each other down so they can be seen as most attractive. There is zero unity, cohesion, or care about the whole. This shouldn't be a surprise, but it's another good illustration.

As for the premise of the thread, I still think it's a silly move. The BE has better basketball. But, not so much so that it's worth giving up what you do by making the move. I think it was a short sighted gamble by UConn, and it would be even more idiotic for UC. Outside of the MSG tournament, I don't get why people would be so excited to join the BE. They're all solid basketball schools. None are really all that exciting (exception of Nova who has to qualify at this point).

UConn will be the first program to drop from FBS to FCS having made a BCS/NY6 game in the same decade as dropping down a division.

(07-17-2019 11:17 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  This thread illustrates two things:

1) Why BC1 is an elite level troll. No one can get people riled up like it.

2) Why the AAC will never work long term. It's just a bunch of schools trying to tear each other down so they can be seen as most attractive. There is zero unity, cohesion, or care about the whole. This shouldn't be a surprise, but it's another good illustration.

As for the premise of the thread, I still think it's a silly move. The BE has better basketball. But, not so much so that it's worth giving up what you do by making the move. I think it was a short sighted gamble by UConn, and it would be even more idiotic for UC. Outside of the MSG tournament, I don't get why people would be so excited to join the BE. They're all solid basketball schools. None are really all that exciting (exception of Nova who has to qualify at this point).

Lol yeah...and some think I need put out to pasture....pshhht

(07-16-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 08:43 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I see a lot of people mocking UCONN and saying how dumb the move is, but after looking at everything, here is my take:

It was a great move for UCONN. They get to focus on basketball in the Big East, which is a better conference top to bottom with more brand power than the AAC.

Sure their football is hosed, but it was already hosed. What they did was take it out back and put a bullet in it instead of letting it die a long slow painful death, which is what EVERY G5 team is doing right now, but don't know it.

The mega subsidies we all are using to keep football afloat in the new P5 run world is not sustainable long term. A few schools in the group will probably get promoted to the P5 down the road, the rest won't. UCONN decided they were not going to make that cut and acted quickly. It was bold move but probably will pay off for them in the long run. When most of us in five or eight years are starting to slash football because state's pass legislation limiting subsides that can be spent on athletics, all we will have left is a mid-major basketball conference. Meanwhile, UCONN will be enjoying the Big East and power status.


Last laugh will be on most of you guys who, right now, are mocking UCONN for lacking vision in football. Really, they are the one's with vision.

Discuss...

All true plus UMass, Liberty, BYU and NMSU have proven that football independence does not mean death.

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No, not death, just a crippling muscle disease like Muscular Dystrophy.

Wow...

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(07-17-2019 12:18 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 11:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 08:43 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I see a lot of people mocking UCONN and saying how dumb the move is, but after looking at everything, here is my take:

It was a great move for UCONN. They get to focus on basketball in the Big East, which is a better conference top to bottom with more brand power than the AAC.

Sure their football is hosed, but it was already hosed. What they did was take it out back and put a bullet in it instead of letting it die a long slow painful death, which is what EVERY G5 team is doing right now, but don't know it.

The mega subsidies we all are using to keep football afloat in the new P5 run world is not sustainable long term. A few schools in the group will probably get promoted to the P5 down the road, the rest won't. UCONN decided they were not going to make that cut and acted quickly. It was bold move but probably will pay off for them in the long run. When most of us in five or eight years are starting to slash football because state's pass legislation limiting subsides that can be spent on athletics, all we will have left is a mid-major basketball conference. Meanwhile, UCONN will be enjoying the Big East and power status.


Last laugh will be on most of you guys who, right now, are mocking UCONN for lacking vision in football. Really, they are the one's with vision.

Discuss...

All true plus UMass, Liberty, BYU and NMSU have proven that football independence does not mean death.

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No, not death, just a crippling muscle disease like Muscular Dystrophy.

Damn
I wouldn’t wish warts on him.