https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

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F BYU

(07-01-2019 01:05 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  F BYU

Agree.

BYUs reprehensible player and fan behavior from the bowl game five years ago notwithstanding

That would be a major profile boon for the AAC

If they followed AAC rules

It might help them get back to higher relevancy with a conference title at stake.

Would BYU and Boise do football only memberships if the WCC would welcome Boise in hoops?

Take Army, BYU and Boise as FB only and VCU as hoops only. Gets to 14 for football, spans 3 time zones so AAC can be on tv all day long on Saturdays, and almost certainly guarantees the NY6 bowl will be the AAC champion.

West - BYU, Boise, Houston, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, Memphis
East - Cincy, Temple, UCF, USF, ECU, Army, Navy

Basketball league including Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, Wichita, VCU, and Temple is not bad.

(07-01-2019 08:05 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would BYU and Boise do football only memberships if the WCC would welcome Boise in hoops?

Take Army, BYU and Boise as FB only and VCU as hoops only. Gets to 14 for football, spans 3 time zones so AAC can be on tv all day long on Saturdays, and almost certainly guarantees the NY6 bowl will be the AAC champion.

West - BYU, Boise, Houston, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, Memphis
East - Cincy, Temple, UCF, USF, ECU, Army, Navy

Basketball league including Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, Wichita, VCU, and Temple is not bad.

Boise St has a sweetheart deal with the MWC on TV money. I'd doubt they'd throw that away even if it is slightly more money in the AAC(before increased travel cost).

We should get Army, Air Force and BYU. We need to expand into the west, to really be an "American" conference.

Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

Our football program did too.

(07-01-2019 08:05 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would BYU and Boise do football only memberships if the WCC would welcome Boise in hoops?

Take Army, BYU and Boise as FB only and VCU as hoops only. Gets to 14 for football, spans 3 time zones so AAC can be on tv all day long on Saturdays, and almost certainly guarantees the NY6 bowl will be the AAC champion.

West - BYU, Boise, Houston, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, Memphis
East - Cincy, Temple, UCF, USF, ECU, Army, Navy

Basketball league including Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, Wichita, VCU, and Temple is not bad.

Or add Army, Air Force and BYU for FB and VCU for BB.

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

BYU is between a 1,200 to 2,500 mile bus ride for nonrevenue sports. With no other schools in the region to double up competition stops on the trip. You are talking about almost a week long trip for just one event.

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

(07-01-2019 10:25 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

BYU is between a 1,200 to 2,500 mile bus ride for nonrevenue sports. With no other schools in the region to double up competition stops on the trip. You are talking about almost a week long trip for just one event.

Don't think there is any serious consideration of BYU for anything but FB where travel will be air.

Same old. Seems fans of other schools ( maybe secondary) keep pushing names that don’t belong in our conference. The only two that MIGHT add $$ are BYU and Boise. Neither are good fits geographically and BYU has some PC problems. Some are advocating to water down the league again. We already have a couple of bottom feeders and don’t need any more one sport schools.

Be careful what you wish for.

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

He's quoting the article that he also linked. Take it up with the writer.

I think most here assume a BYU invite would be football-only, so travel really becomes a minor issue.

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

that was from the story genius.
It was not me talking. Sheesh.

(07-01-2019 09:16 AM)GottaHateUT Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

Our football program did too.

Yeah, but our basketball was our big selling point.


Plus, we took care of football eventually.

El Paso is still C-USA, genius.