(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

Much better? There's no proof of that...it's just an opinion at this point.

And you know very well what Minny is doing....nice deflection :)

(07-10-2019 12:09 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

Much better? There's no proof of that...it's just an opinion at this point.

And you know very well what Minny is doing....nice deflection :)

Much better for anyone who has watched Tyus Jones play. Is that better?

And what deflection? Minny, who drafted and developed Tyus for 4 seasons, properly made the decision that he is worth no where near 3/$28M, as the deal is now reported. Because it's a huge overpay. Jesus, you are making this so much harder than it is.

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

And Memphis essentially passed on Delon. They could have matched Dallas' offer sheet, but didn't. So, in your words, that "should tell you something."

That's the whole freaking point. Our front office made a big mistake. Am I not using clear words?

You homers are allowed to think for yourselves, you know, right?

(07-10-2019 12:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

And Memphis essentially passed on Delon. They could have matched Dallas' offer sheet, but didn't. So, in your words, that "should tell you something."

That's the whole freaking point. Our front office made a big mistake. Am I not using clear words?

You homers are allowed to think for yourselves, you know, right?

So Memphis passes on Delon ... evidence of a big mistake.
Minny passes on Tyus ... evidence that he sucks.

Got it.

(07-10-2019 12:46 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:09 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

Much better? There's no proof of that...it's just an opinion at this point.

And you know very well what Minny is doing....nice deflection :)

Much better for anyone who has watched Tyus Jones play. Is that better?

And what deflection? Minny, who drafted and developed Tyus for 4 seasons, properly made the decision that he is worth no where near 3/$28M, as the deal is now reported. Because it's a huge overpay. Jesus, you are making this so much harder than it is.

TigX - you are making it way harder on purpose man. Reports out of Minny outlines their plans clearly.

Going by watching someone play is pure deflection. Stats over a career are more reflective of a player's value. Heck, I doubt you watched Tyus play last season especially when DRose went down.

Feb 2019 stats

Delon (2 of 9 games were with Toronto)
25 mins, 9.3 pts on approx 8 shots, 3.5 assists, 0.9 TOs, 1.2 steals

Tyus
26 mins, 7.6 pts on approx 6 shots, 6.4 assists, 1 TO, 1.8 steals

March 2019 stats

Delon
30 mins, 12.1 pts on approx 10 shots, 5 assists, 1.6 TOs, 2 steals

Tyus
25 mins, 9 pts on approx 8 shots, 5.3 assists, 0.9 TO, 1.8 steals


April 2019 stats

Delon
37 mins, 17 pts on approx 12 shots, 9 assists, 1.8 TOs, 1.4 steals

Tyus
33 mins, 11.7 pts on approx 10 shots, 8.5 assists, 0.5 TO, 1.2 steals


If one watched Tyus play the same time when Delon played with the Grizz, one may think Tyus may actually have been the slightly better Point Guard.

Regardless, I'm done here. I have cited enough stats (career and then specifically Delon's time with the Grizz) and am not going by just "eye test."
One is not significantly better than the other. They are comparable players and having either won't affect the Grizz' future long term.

I've never seen someone get their panties in such a wad over a guy who averages 7 ppg.

(07-10-2019 01:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:46 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:09 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

Much better? There's no proof of that...it's just an opinion at this point.

And you know very well what Minny is doing....nice deflection :)

Much better for anyone who has watched Tyus Jones play. Is that better?

And what deflection? Minny, who drafted and developed Tyus for 4 seasons, properly made the decision that he is worth no where near 3/$28M, as the deal is now reported. Because it's a huge overpay. Jesus, you are making this so much harder than it is.

One is not significantly better than the other. They are comparable players and having either won't affect the Grizz' future long term.

True. And think about how many backup PGs we’ve had over the last few years (I’ve lost count). By the time we’re good again it’s possible (maybe likely) Tyus won’t even be here.

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it. It's literally a wash in this argument.

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Tyus Def Rtng last year : 108.7 per nba.com
Delon Def Rtg last year: 106.4 per nba.com


They have very comparable PER.
There's no significant difference between the 2 players.

We passed on Delon.
Minny passed on Tyus.
Most sports media folks haven't gone around proclaiming that Delon is a LOT better than Tyus.

Both are serviceable role players and solid backup PGs on teams that have a bonafide starting PG.

Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/contracts/point-guard/

I highly doubt Delon is in the Mavs long term plans for a starting PG. He's getting paid as a backup PG.
It seems the only argument now for Delon's greatness is he is a temporary starter for the Mavs.

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Wrong on everything, except that Minny passed on their own player, which should tell you something.

Here is a link to Tyus Jones' basketball reference page: https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...sty01.html His Drtg was 114 last year. Delon's was 107.

They don't have comparable PERs. Delon's has never been under 15, the league average. Tyus's has never once reached 15, the league average. They both have played 4 years. So literally using your stat, Delon is an above average player, and Tyus is a below average player.

We didn't pass on Delon, we traded him. Which was better than passing on him, but still a mistake.

Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Delon will be a temporary starter in Dallas. He's not an NBA starting PG he just isn't.

Again it's funny that you would be willing to over pay for Delon to be the back up here, but have your britches all in a wad because we are overpaying for a back up in Tyus.

One more time you are making Delon out to be better than he actually is.

(07-10-2019 02:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

It's the best the NBA has ever seen.

(07-10-2019 02:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

He just doesn't get it.

Jones has better assist to turnover ratio ( not even close)
Younger with more potential
Cheaper
Additional accrued assets in draft picks

As you mentioned Tyus is not ball dominant (and not a combo guard) which means our other young players (including Allen) will get the opportunity to potentially shine more.

It also means Jones is better equipped to help Ja learn some facets of the pure PG position than Delon is.

Somebody explain a rebuild to him.


And since we are discussing PGs has anyone mentioned there's a deal cooking to send Holiday back to Chicago for Kris Dunn and a possible second?

Who has more value and potential, Delon or Dunn? The Grizz have some negotiable leverage after signing Tyus to this deal.

That looks to be the real situation the Grizzlies are exploring.

We don't need Dunn but can deal off a a player (Holiday) who absolutely stunk for us last season and possibly get Dunn and one of the picks back that Wallace tossed away.

Our new FO is shrewd and seems intent on fixing Chris Wallaces mistakes as quickly as possible.

(07-10-2019 02:20 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:24 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Delon wanted to be in Dallas. He wanted to start (he wasn't going to start here).

Front office was smart and got assets in return for him instead of losing him for nothing.

You're making Delon out to be better than he his.

What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Delon will be a temporary starter in Dallas. He's not an NBA starting PG he just isn't.

Again it's funny that you would be willing to over pay for Delon to be the back up here, but have your britches all in a wad because we are overpaying for a back up in Tyus.

One more time you are making Delon out to be better than he actually is.

??? Define a temporary starter. Dallas moved and traded for Delon to put him next to Luka and start at PG.

No brithces in a wad, just not afraid to call out the new FO when they do something dumb.

(07-10-2019 02:21 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

It's the best the NBA has ever seen.

Wow, so amazing. He was 43rd in assists per game this year in the NBA. Don't get caught up in silly, one off ratios. His career average in assists pg is just over 3.

(07-10-2019 03:01 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:20 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 12:03 PM)Tigx Wrote:  What he is is much better than Tyus Jones. And we had Delon’s RFA rights, so we’re in zero danger of losing him for nothing.

It’s a bad move. And an overpay. Minny was right to let him go.

I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Delon will be a temporary starter in Dallas. He's not an NBA starting PG he just isn't.

Again it's funny that you would be willing to over pay for Delon to be the back up here, but have your britches all in a wad because we are overpaying for a back up in Tyus.

One more time you are making Delon out to be better than he actually is.

??? Define a temporary starter. Dallas moved and traded for Delon to put him next to Luka and start at PG.

No brithces in a wad, just not afraid to call out the new FO when they do something dumb.

It means he won't be Dallas' long term starter in the future. He'll start this year, but if Brunson develops more he could easily replace Delon as the starter.

You are one of the few people that thinks it's dumb. Grizz were not going to offer Delon 3/$29M to be a backup and that's exactly what he would've been here. So instead the Grizz FO was smart and was able to get a small return for him.

You're literally getting worked up over a player who isn't as good as you are making him to be.

You should check out Peter Edminston's article on why Tyus is better for the rebuild than Delon is

(07-10-2019 03:04 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:21 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

It's the best the NBA has ever seen.

Wow, so amazing. He was 43rd in assists per game this year in the NBA. Don't get caught up in silly, one off ratios. His career average in assists pg is just over 3.

You are dying on this hill aren't you? smh

(07-10-2019 03:04 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:21 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:06 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Even when Delon got starters minutes for the Grizz, he averaged 12 ppg on 43% shooting and 25% from 3. He did have 3 triple doubles at the end of the year and was playing really well, but those games were against teams in tank mode, or resting their starters.

I would've preferred Delon, he's longer and more versatile, but the picks, even if just 2nd round, make it pretty much a wash to me.

Plus, I think it's a positive that Tyus is not a guy who will monopolize the basketball, which will lead to more shots for our younger guys and hopefully quicker development.

Finally, I love the fact that Jones really values the basketball, his assist to turnover ratio is nothing short of amazing.

It's the best the NBA has ever seen.

Wow, so amazing. He was 43rd in assists per game this year in the NBA. Don't get caught up in silly, one off ratios. His career average in assists pg is just over 3.

He's a back up PG, no one is expecting Steve Nash. BTW, Delon Wright averages 2.7 assists for his career.

(07-10-2019 03:17 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 03:01 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 02:20 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:44 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  I think they felt early on that Delon kind of didn't want to be here hence the extending of the qualifying offer to make him RFA so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. It's clear now the Grizz had zero intentions of bringing him back.

You are really going to die on this hill for Delon aren't you? Delon isn't as good as you make him out to be. He's a solid backup pg that's it. Tyus is a solid backup pg that's it.

Wrong, Delon is a starting PG for the Dallas Mavericks now. At a good salary. Tyus will remain an undersized, poor shooting backup PG. At a bad salary.

Delon will be a temporary starter in Dallas. He's not an NBA starting PG he just isn't.

Again it's funny that you would be willing to over pay for Delon to be the back up here, but have your britches all in a wad because we are overpaying for a back up in Tyus.

One more time you are making Delon out to be better than he actually is.

??? Define a temporary starter. Dallas moved and traded for Delon to put him next to Luka and start at PG.

No brithces in a wad, just not afraid to call out the new FO when they do something dumb.

It means he won't be Dallas' long term starter in the future. He'll start this year, but if Brunson develops more he could easily replace Delon as the starter.

You are one of the few people that thinks it's dumb. Grizz were not going to offer Delon 3/$29M to be a backup and that's exactly what he would've been here. So instead the Grizz FO was smart and was able to get a small return for him.

You're literally getting worked up over a player who isn't as good as you are making him to be.

You should check out Peter Edminston's article on why Tyus is better for the rebuild than Delon is

Peter Edmiston doesn't tell me what to think. Unlike you, I can form my own opinions.

So Grizz weren't going to offer Delon 3/$29M, but were happy to give an inferior player 3/$28M? Got it.