(07-04-2019 09:16 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  Aresco needs to point out that the 3 military academies DESERVE special TREATMENT and ACCESS.

What I mean by SPECIAL TREATMENT: Allow them to be independent in football but part of a conference. Like Notre Dame with the ACC in football but, include...

...SPECIAL ACCESS: As they are part of AAC (4 games minimum scheduled vs AAC member teams) they should also have access to conference football CCG. This is done by having a 4 team CCG playoff - division winner(s) plus 3 (or 2) at larges. The 3 football indy academies have a shot at being at-large in the 4 team conference football playoff if they are ranked high enough either per CFP Rankings or, if not top 25 there, per a credible computer ranking system and/or Coaches/AP receiving votes.

AAC INDY DIVISION
Army
Navy
Air Force

AAC CORE DIVISION
The 10 teams (8 games each vs each other per regular conference season).

Army, Navy and Air Force gets to have 6 regularly scheduled games (2 against the other academies and 4 minimum vs AAC core) and gets to preserve 6 games OOC since the 3 academies love having their “America’s team” status preserved.

This setup say to Army, “hey Black Knights, you have 6 games to schedule at your America’s team will, and, have access to a conference championship, which is access to NY6”.

This, of course, needs the blessing of NCAA and FBS...that’s where “SPECIAL TREATMENT” comes in and they deserve it and Aresco needs to beat that drum.

One thing wrong with this. Although the main gist sounds good. The problem is 4 mandatory games the 3 academies with 10 core aac teams means 1). Core division would have to play round robin of 9 games, 2) 4 x 3 is 12 games, so, in each given season, two aac core teams would have to play 9 vs other core + 2 academies, leaving only 1 OOC.

So this is the remedy...

INDY ACADEMY DIV
Army
Navy
Air Force

EAST DIV
Temple
ECU
Cincy
Memphis
UCF
USF

WEST DIV
Tulane
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado State
BYU (*or Boise or SDSU if BYU cannot payoff teams on their schedule thru 2023)

(07-05-2019 09:06 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 09:16 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  Aresco needs to point out that the 3 military academies DESERVE special TREATMENT and ACCESS.

What I mean by SPECIAL TREATMENT: Allow them to be independent in football but part of a conference. Like Notre Dame with the ACC in football but, include...

...SPECIAL ACCESS: As they are part of AAC (4 games minimum scheduled vs AAC member teams) they should also have access to conference football CCG. This is done by having a 4 team CCG playoff - division winner(s) plus 3 (or 2) at larges. The 3 football indy academies have a shot at being at-large in the 4 team conference football playoff if they are ranked high enough either per CFP Rankings or, if not top 25 there, per a credible computer ranking system and/or Coaches/AP receiving votes.

AAC INDY DIVISION
Army
Navy
Air Force

AAC CORE DIVISION
The 10 teams (8 games each vs each other per regular conference season).

Army, Navy and Air Force gets to have 6 regularly scheduled games (2 against the other academies and 4 minimum vs AAC core) and gets to preserve 6 games OOC since the 3 academies love having their “America’s team” status preserved.

This setup say to Army, “hey Black Knights, you have 6 games to schedule at your America’s team will, and, have access to a conference championship, which is access to NY6”.

This, of course, needs the blessing of NCAA and FBS...that’s where “SPECIAL TREATMENT” comes in and they deserve it and Aresco needs to beat that drum.

One thing wrong with this. Although the main gist sounds good. The problem is 4 mandatory games the 3 academies with 10 core aac teams means 1). Core division would have to play round robin of 9 games, 2) 4 x 3 is 12 games, so, in each given season, two aac core teams would have to play 9 vs other core + 2 academies, leaving only 1 OOC.

So this is the remedy...

INDY ACADEMY DIV
Army
Navy
Air Force

EAST DIV
Temple
ECU
Cincy
Memphis
UCF
USF

WEST DIV
Tulane
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado State
BYU (*or Boise or SDSU if BYU cannot payoff teams on their schedule thru 2023)

no Fresno? I'd take Fresno.

If the AAC can't get Army or BYU, just stay at 11 for football and basketball.

Any current CUSA, MAC, or Sun Belt member weakens the AAC in football versus standing pat at 11 and a hoop only addition like VCU weakens the AAC monetarily if they stop performing at their current level (which would be likely in a more competitive conference like the AAC).

Don't dilute the brand. Hang strong at 11 for each sport (if the NCAA conference championship game waiver for football passes).

(07-05-2019 03:50 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  If the AAC can't get Army or BYU, just stay at 11 for football and basketball.

Any current CUSA, MAC, or Sun Belt member weakens the AAC in football versus standing pat at 11 and a hoop only addition like VCU weakens the AAC monetarily if they stop performing at their current level (which would be likely in a more competitive conference like the AAC).

Don't dilute the brand. Hang strong at 11 for each sport (if the NCAA conference championship game waiver for football passes).

Dont need a waiver to play uneven divisions, just gets hard or messy for scheduling.

I have no decision making ability, but I would volunteer in a heartbeat for Navy to play one fewer East division team. Scheduling flexibilty back again? Yes, please.

(07-05-2019 03:50 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  If the AAC can't get Army or BYU, just stay at 11 for football and basketball.

Any current CUSA, MAC, or Sun Belt member weakens the AAC in football versus standing pat at 11 and a hoop only addition like VCU weakens the AAC monetarily if they stop performing at their current level (which would be likely in a more competitive conference like the AAC).

Don't dilute the brand. Hang strong at 11 for each sport (if the NCAA conference championship game waiver for football passes).

Agree

An odd number of teams yields problems with scheduling partners like volleyball and some others. An invitation to VCU both strengthens the hoops brand and can in some ways prevent transportation woes.

I know baseball is never a blip on the radar of alignment concerns, but the Rams have a quality program that suffers from a really struggling A-10 that is a one bidder.

(07-05-2019 02:46 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:06 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 09:16 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  Aresco needs to point out that the 3 military academies DESERVE special TREATMENT and ACCESS.

What I mean by SPECIAL TREATMENT: Allow them to be independent in football but part of a conference. Like Notre Dame with the ACC in football but, include...

...SPECIAL ACCESS: As they are part of AAC (4 games minimum scheduled vs AAC member teams) they should also have access to conference football CCG. This is done by having a 4 team CCG playoff - division winner(s) plus 3 (or 2) at larges. The 3 football indy academies have a shot at being at-large in the 4 team conference football playoff if they are ranked high enough either per CFP Rankings or, if not top 25 there, per a credible computer ranking system and/or Coaches/AP receiving votes.

AAC INDY DIVISION
Army
Navy
Air Force

AAC CORE DIVISION
The 10 teams (8 games each vs each other per regular conference season).

Army, Navy and Air Force gets to have 6 regularly scheduled games (2 against the other academies and 4 minimum vs AAC core) and gets to preserve 6 games OOC since the 3 academies love having their “America’s team” status preserved.

This setup say to Army, “hey Black Knights, you have 6 games to schedule at your America’s team will, and, have access to a conference championship, which is access to NY6”.

This, of course, needs the blessing of NCAA and FBS...that’s where “SPECIAL TREATMENT” comes in and they deserve it and Aresco needs to beat that drum.

One thing wrong with this. Although the main gist sounds good. The problem is 4 mandatory games the 3 academies with 10 core aac teams means 1). Core division would have to play round robin of 9 games, 2) 4 x 3 is 12 games, so, in each given season, two aac core teams would have to play 9 vs other core + 2 academies, leaving only 1 OOC.

So this is the remedy...

INDY ACADEMY DIV
Army
Navy
Air Force

EAST DIV
Temple
ECU
Cincy
Memphis
UCF
USF

WEST DIV
Tulane
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado State
BYU (*or Boise or SDSU if BYU cannot payoff teams on their schedule thru 2023)

no Fresno? I'd take Fresno.

Yeah, we’re in my “Fantasy AAC”. But my fantasy requires a lot of ncaa and fbs rule changes. This proposal of mine is more objective and requires only some bending. And...is in fact a stepping stone to my fantasy aac Coast-to-Coast manifest destiny.

At the very least, I wish aac and MW worked together with say joint tv deals and schedule at least one game with each other in football and basketball. And, work together to be more considered part of the Power/Autonomous-5 group.

When I say joint tv deal, I don’t mean MW members would get quite the same per member tv revenue as the aac members, just that when one conference has a good year, the fans of the other conference applaud the other instead of rant against. I’ve tried long and hard to hate the aac, but aac isn’t really hurting MW in any way. That would be the Pac-12 is more detrimental to MW when Pac-12 is having a good multi-year run of success (recruiting challenges for MW when Pac is strong, etc).

I think if MW had a different commissioner, aac and MW would work together. MW President’s need to ask Aresco who they should choose to replace Thompson.

I think a great alliance would be aac, MW, A10 and wcc with all 3 Service academies included. Be cool if espn made an ACC type channel that had content that belonged exclusively to/for those 4 conferences. That could be where our link together would be. Revenue sharing between the 4 conferences only from this AAC/A10/MW/WCC channel...maybe call this channel “ESPN-4” or “ESPNU4” since it is 4 conferences. Have sports news and analysis shows on this channel specific to our 4 conferences.