Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

(07-03-2019 01:53 PM)UofMark Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 12:43 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I must have opened the wrong thread. I thought this was about Tennessee wanting to play in the Liberty Bowl.

Good point. When Tennessee played the Citadel here in 1983, the attendance was a stout 20,000. That was probably with a $12 ticket. Imagine trying to promote a game like that here today with a $75 ticket. It'd be lucky to get 20k. I'm also sure Phil Fulmer would love to visit the place that arguably gave him the lowest point in his coaching career. But just in case he reads this, I've included a picture of the current signage at both Early Maxwell entrances to Tiger Lane.

touche sir

(07-03-2019 02:10 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

I hope you are wrong. I hope smarter heads prevail, and we start up a home and home with them sometime in the future.

(07-03-2019 04:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 02:10 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

I hope you are wrong. I hope smarter heads prevail, and we start up a home and home with them sometime in the future.

Assuming they don’t prevail (smarter heads), realistically who would the opponent be? It’s well documented most P5s are aiming for 7 home games to maximize revenue. Would an area G5 be willing? Probably, if the price is right. But, at that point does it make sense for UT? The only way I can see it making any sense as a neutral site game is if a media provider sets it up. So far, they haven’t shown any interest in Memphis hosting those type of events. Just doesn’t seem to be a likely scenario imo.

(07-03-2019 05:07 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 04:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 02:10 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

I hope you are wrong. I hope smarter heads prevail, and we start up a home and home with them sometime in the future.

Assuming they don’t prevail (smarter heads), realistically who would the opponent be? It’s well documented most P5s are aiming for 7 home games to maximize revenue. Would an area G5 be willing? Probably, if the price is right. But, at that point does it make sense for UT? The only way I can see it making any sense as a neutral site game is if a media provider sets it up. So far, they haven’t shown any interest in Memphis hosting those type of events. Just doesn’t seem to be a likely scenario imo.

I have heard UConn is desperate to fill their schedule.

(07-03-2019 05:43 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 05:07 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 04:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 02:10 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

I hope you are wrong. I hope smarter heads prevail, and we start up a home and home with them sometime in the future.

Assuming they don’t prevail (smarter heads), realistically who would the opponent be? It’s well documented most P5s are aiming for 7 home games to maximize revenue. Would an area G5 be willing? Probably, if the price is right. But, at that point does it make sense for UT? The only way I can see it making any sense as a neutral site game is if a media provider sets it up. So far, they haven’t shown any interest in Memphis hosting those type of events. Just doesn’t seem to be a likely scenario imo.

I have heard UConn is desperate to fill their schedule.

Now that will get the Memphis & west TN vol fans excited. I'm guessing 5-10K would show up for that one...

(07-03-2019 04:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 02:10 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Thread is one big nothingburger.

Tennessee ain't ever playing in Memphis again unless they get a bowl berth.

I hope you are wrong. I hope smarter heads prevail, and we start up a home and home with them sometime in the future.

I know he is wrong. They will whenever they feel like it.

(07-03-2019 08:54 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 11:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The city would screw the university in a heartbeat. Believe it. Until we have an OCS there is not a damn thing we can do about it Same as it ever was.



Tenn 45, The Citadel 6,
Oct 1 1983
In Memphis

Also the following. I'm not sure what skunk think has changed.

90 Rebs vs. Vols
95 Rebs vs. Razorbacks
96 Rebs vs. Vols

All three suck. Other than that, nothing

Oh they could play us again. I don't see it happening until they get good again or us bad and/or both.

But Tennessee will NEVER play here again against an opponent who isn't us unless it's a bowl game.

Why would they?

(07-04-2019 12:18 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Oh they could play us again. I don't see it happening until they get good again or us bad and/or both.

But Tennessee will NEVER play here again against an opponent who isn't us unless it's a bowl game.

Why would they?

Because when Fulmer was coach, Memphis was very important to the UT program, both in recruits and fans. Since Fulmer was fired and UT has gone downhill, both the fans and the recruits have dried up. Where else can UT recruit? Bumville? All the SEC teams have locked down their respective areas. Where UT used to recruit throughout the south, they are no longer pulling players from Georgia, Alabama, Louisianna, Tennessee, like they used to. Trying to re-establish themselves in a large city like Memphis is not a bad move.

While the Memphis area UT fans may not be as public as they used to be (you don't see the flags and bumper stickers, etc. like you used to). They are bubbling right beneath the surface waiting for UT to do anything worthy of yanking out the flags again.

(07-04-2019 12:18 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Oh they could play us again. I don't see it happening until they get good again or us bad and/or both.

But Tennessee will NEVER play here again against an opponent who isn't us unless it's a bowl game.

Why would they?

Since games are scheduled years in advance that logic is simply....not logical.

Okay.

Bump this thread when they schedule a game here not against us.

I'll wait. I could have said the same thing in 1996 and still be waiting.

Some of you really think about Tennessee way too much and it shows.

(07-04-2019 03:58 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Some of you really think about Tennessee way too much and it shows.

I am assuming you are one of those you refer to since you are all up in this thread.

Logic checks out.

(07-01-2019 08:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:32 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 07:19 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 06:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-30-2019 10:14 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  UT would never allow Memphis to play a game in Knoxville's stadium against another opponent...why should we oblige them?

The city owns the LB stadium, unlike UTK who owns Neyland Stadium. As 87 said, the city is NOT the university. And the city of Memphis would take money from whomever would offer it for the LB rent if they could accommodate it. I'm hoping the UofM contract with the LB gives us some control over dates that would prevent UTK from playing in the LB. You might see UTK attempt the same thing in MBB at the FedEx Forum because again it is not owned by our university.

These possibilities would not happen if our university plays its sports in OC facilities owned by the university......another shameless prop for OC facilities.

That wont happen because of a clause in the FEF contract where the Tigers can block it.

So, the inverse is true? If we had an OC arena, we'd no longer have say in FEF. THEN, UTK could create contract to play at FEF without UofM's say. Interesting.

by the same token...if the Tigers did have an OC stadium...then they'd have to go through the Grizz for events to take place in the stadium...as the Grizz approve of the entertainment events in Memphis that occur around the city.

Right fo first refusal only applied to MSC and Pyramid. But that also only applied to certain types of events. Then there is the provision which prohibited the city from taking any active part in the building of a new arena over 5,000 seats, but even that has an upper limit which would exempt a football stadium. Other than the fact that an OCS is not economically feasible, there is nothing the Griz can do about one or having any say so in any. EPE can still build their arena if they wanted to do and the Griz have no says so in its operation. The city just cannot help them in any way.

(07-05-2019 11:07 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:32 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 07:19 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 06:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  The city owns the LB stadium, unlike UTK who owns Neyland Stadium. As 87 said, the city is NOT the university. And the city of Memphis would take money from whomever would offer it for the LB rent if they could accommodate it. I'm hoping the UofM contract with the LB gives us some control over dates that would prevent UTK from playing in the LB. You might see UTK attempt the same thing in MBB at the FedEx Forum because again it is not owned by our university.

These possibilities would not happen if our university plays its sports in OC facilities owned by the university......another shameless prop for OC facilities.

That wont happen because of a clause in the FEF contract where the Tigers can block it.

So, the inverse is true? If we had an OC arena, we'd no longer have say in FEF. THEN, UTK could create contract to play at FEF without UofM's say. Interesting.

by the same token...if the Tigers did have an OC stadium...then they'd have to go through the Grizz for events to take place in the stadium...as the Grizz approve of the entertainment events in Memphis that occur around the city.

Right fo first refusal only applied to MSC and Pyramid. But that also only applied to certain types of events. Then there is the provision which prohibited the city from taking any active part in the building of a new arena over 5,000 seats, but even that has an upper limit which would exempt a football stadium. Other than the fact that an OCS is not economically feasible, there is nothing the Griz can do about one or having any say so in any. EPE can still build their arena if they wanted to do and the Griz have no says so in its operation. The city just cannot help them in any way.

The upper limit is 50,000, so that would only exempt a football stadium on-campus if we built a seriously huge one. As others have said though, it only prevents the University from receiving city funds to build.

(07-05-2019 11:22 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:07 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:32 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 07:19 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  That wont happen because of a clause in the FEF contract where the Tigers can block it.

So, the inverse is true? If we had an OC arena, we'd no longer have say in FEF. THEN, UTK could create contract to play at FEF without UofM's say. Interesting.

by the same token...if the Tigers did have an OC stadium...then they'd have to go through the Grizz for events to take place in the stadium...as the Grizz approve of the entertainment events in Memphis that occur around the city.

Right fo first refusal only applied to MSC and Pyramid. But that also only applied to certain types of events. Then there is the provision which prohibited the city from taking any active part in the building of a new arena over 5,000 seats, but even that has an upper limit which would exempt a football stadium. Other than the fact that an OCS is not economically feasible, there is nothing the Griz can do about one or having any say so in any. EPE can still build their arena if they wanted to do and the Griz have no says so in its operation. The city just cannot help them in any way.

The upper limit is 50,000, so that would only exempt a football stadium on-campus if we built a seriously huge one. As others have said though, it only prevents the University from receiving city funds to build.

Why would the university be bound by any agreement between the Grizzlies & the city?

(07-05-2019 11:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:22 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:07 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:32 AM)gusrob Wrote:  So, the inverse is true? If we had an OC arena, we'd no longer have say in FEF. THEN, UTK could create contract to play at FEF without UofM's say. Interesting.

by the same token...if the Tigers did have an OC stadium...then they'd have to go through the Grizz for events to take place in the stadium...as the Grizz approve of the entertainment events in Memphis that occur around the city.

Right fo first refusal only applied to MSC and Pyramid. But that also only applied to certain types of events. Then there is the provision which prohibited the city from taking any active part in the building of a new arena over 5,000 seats, but even that has an upper limit which would exempt a football stadium. Other than the fact that an OCS is not economically feasible, there is nothing the Griz can do about one or having any say so in any. EPE can still build their arena if they wanted to do and the Griz have no says so in its operation. The city just cannot help them in any way.

The upper limit is 50,000, so that would only exempt a football stadium on-campus if we built a seriously huge one. As others have said though, it only prevents the University from receiving city funds to build.

Why would the university be bound by any agreement between the Grizzlies & the city?

Only for financial support from the city.

(07-05-2019 11:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:22 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:07 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:32 AM)gusrob Wrote:  So, the inverse is true? If we had an OC arena, we'd no longer have say in FEF. THEN, UTK could create contract to play at FEF without UofM's say. Interesting.

by the same token...if the Tigers did have an OC stadium...then they'd have to go through the Grizz for events to take place in the stadium...as the Grizz approve of the entertainment events in Memphis that occur around the city.

Right fo first refusal only applied to MSC and Pyramid. But that also only applied to certain types of events. Then there is the provision which prohibited the city from taking any active part in the building of a new arena over 5,000 seats, but even that has an upper limit which would exempt a football stadium. Other than the fact that an OCS is not economically feasible, there is nothing the Griz can do about one or having any say so in any. EPE can still build their arena if they wanted to do and the Griz have no says so in its operation. The city just cannot help them in any way.

The upper limit is 50,000, so that would only exempt a football stadium on-campus if we built a seriously huge one. As others have said though, it only prevents the University from receiving city funds to build.

Why would the university be bound by any agreement between the Grizzlies & the city?

University is not, but the city is. The city usually pays for infrastructure upgrades such as sewage and utilities to support the stadium. You have got to do a lot of prep work in order to have all the amenities you need at the stadium. Can't just build a stadium and run a line to the electrical pole on the corner or run pipe and hook up to the existing street sewage or water supply.