(06-16-2019 07:32 AM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 01:37 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 02:45 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 08:44 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 07:48 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  Cal and Mizzou = GT and Pitt

Nothing earth shattering, mate

Which also = Louisville and Miami

Can you make a case that any of these schools are "better" than the others? They are important in their regions but none of them have had a relevant season in football in quite a while.

Train of thought for the following;

Cal: Hippies, Aaron Rogers went there
Mizzou: ??? I got nothing. Left Big 12 for SEC and more money.
Pitt: Dan Marino went to school there and they were good in the late 70's.
GT: They shared a national championship with Colorado in 1990. The last time either school was a big name.
Louisville: One of the greatest cheating institutions in the modern era. Got to leave a weak Big East conference and parlayed that into an ACC membership.
Miami: See Louisville Above.

That's my point, really. They're all "P5" programs that have had some decent years and some bad years. Nothing overly exciting either way.

Which is why I don't understand, for instance, USF getting a 1-1 with NCST but then bending over for a 2-1 with Miami or a 2-1 with Louisville. It's incoherent. You guys were GETTING 1-1 deals with equivalent programs and then all of a sudden you started taking 2-1's like they were going out of style.

Five National Championships isn't overly exciting?

lol no. The last one came shortly after GWB was elected as President and we now know that this entire era of Miami success came at the same time that Shapiro and his network of scumbags were breaking every NCAA rule possible to get kids to Miami. It's funny how once Miami had to play by the rules they suddenly became just another ACC program huh?

UCF scheduled a home/home with Miami, as did Temple, as did Toledo. There was absolutely no reason for USF to do a 2-1 with a program that is no more relevant than Duke or NCST in today's ACC.

(06-16-2019 08:52 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-16-2019 07:32 AM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 01:37 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 02:45 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 08:44 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Which also = Louisville and Miami

Can you make a case that any of these schools are "better" than the others? They are important in their regions but none of them have had a relevant season in football in quite a while.

Train of thought for the following;

Cal: Hippies, Aaron Rogers went there
Mizzou: ??? I got nothing. Left Big 12 for SEC and more money.
Pitt: Dan Marino went to school there and they were good in the late 70's.
GT: They shared a national championship with Colorado in 1990. The last time either school was a big name.
Louisville: One of the greatest cheating institutions in the modern era. Got to leave a weak Big East conference and parlayed that into an ACC membership.
Miami: See Louisville Above.

That's my point, really. They're all "P5" programs that have had some decent years and some bad years. Nothing overly exciting either way.

Which is why I don't understand, for instance, USF getting a 1-1 with NCST but then bending over for a 2-1 with Miami or a 2-1 with Louisville. It's incoherent. You guys were GETTING 1-1 deals with equivalent programs and then all of a sudden you started taking 2-1's like they were going out of style.

Five National Championships isn't overly exciting?

lol no. The last one came shortly after GWB was elected as President and we now know that this entire era of Miami success came at the same time that Shapiro and his network of scumbags were breaking every NCAA rule possible to get kids to Miami. It's funny how once Miami had to play by the rules they suddenly became just another ACC program huh?

UCF scheduled a home/home with Miami, as did Temple, as did Toledo. There was absolutely no reason for USF to do a 2-1 with a program that is no more relevant than Duke or NCST in today's ACC.

Youre right the last one came in 2001. Do you know how many schools have won a national championship since then? The answer is 9. Only 9 schools.

So are Michigan, Notre Dame, Georgia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Penn State not overly exciting?

In fact USF has 3 of the last 10 schools to win a national championship on their schedule.

USF has previously scheduled home and homes with Miami, too. We recruit heavily in the Miami area so it does make sense to play there more and get paid for it. We are trying to pay for a state of the art IPF

Btw just picked up a 4 star OL today from Ocala

(06-06-2019 07:47 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Kudos to SDSU for knowing their own worth and getting the home and home series that they are seeking.

They signed a new home and home with in state PAC12 team Cal.

This comes in addition to these Home and Home series already scheduled with other regional "P5" teams:

UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Cal and Oregon State

I guess no one told SDSU that they should know their place and only accept 2-1's?

Boise State gets games with P5s.
The reason they do...is they paid their dues over the course of several season.
I understand COMPLETELY the argument UCF is attempting to make...but to the rest of the P5s, UCF is the Johnny Come Lately G5 that pops up every other year.
If you can show a pattern of sustained success for 5-8 years in a row against superior competition..than you've made your case.
Its sh!tty and unfair...I get it.
You folks have done your school and the whole AAC proud with your accomplishments on the field. I doubt another AAC school goes on a run like y'all have and repeats your achievements on the field any time soon.
Its going to take patience to get where you want to get to though in this instance.

(06-06-2019 10:24 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 09:01 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:56 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:51 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:45 AM)usffan Wrote:  You probably shouldn't use words if you don't know their definition, considering USF has home and homes with Wisconsin, Georgia Tech and NC State...

USFFan

Yes, and recent 2-1's with ACC teams that consistently finish lower in the standings than both of the teams you listed. You see that's the issue here right?

However per your own USF fan above, apparently GT and NCST aren't "real" P5 teams.

You can try to shame us for our schedule all you want. We're mostly quite happy with it. The fact that it has so many UCF fans panties in a twist has been an unexpected bonus. But it's awesome that you guys spend so much time thinking about us! As I said in another thread, anything about USF that gets posted draws a comment from at least one UCF fan. In this case, you started a thread about a San Diego State/Cal series just to take a swipe at us. Do we have to pay rent for occupying so much space in your fandom's psyche?

USFFan

Dude, the only reason we think of USF is due to the fact that you've chosen to schedule like a Sun Belt team and are dragging programs like UCF and Houston down with you as you make this the norm and not the exception. Otherwise USF is a totally irrelevant football program.

And yes, SDSU was mentioned since they seem to believe in "P6" more than most programs in this conference, which shows what a total farce that entire campaign is. There are only a few programs who are actually making "P6" happen and it's not those scheduling 2-1's.

If that were true, we wouldn't be treated to the incessantly childish inability to capitalize the letters of our name by most UCF posters, the ubiquitous shots at how we're not actually in "south" Florida or the hackneyed trophy case jokes.

But let me ask you this - if our signing 2 for 1's with Alabama, Florida, Miami and Louisville - who have combined for 14 of the last 35 national titles and 7 Heisman trophy winners in that same time frame - is somehow preventing non Power 5 schools from signing home and homes, can you explain how San Diego State was able to do this? Or, rather, are you simply trying to troll and using this to deflect the fact that your savior hasn't managed to sign more than 3 series after this year? Even the mods quickly saw through it...

USFFan

some P5s have more to lose than others.
Alabama won't schedule UCF no matter how many people would love to see thegame... they have too much to lose.
Stanford doesn't stand to lose as much prestige if they lost to a SDSU..as Alabama would by losing to UCF.
It helps that some P5 schools don't have that overbearing chip on their shoulders that the elite P5s (or perceived elite P5s) do.

(06-16-2019 08:52 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF scheduled a home/home with Miami,

You know that is a disingenuous comparison. UCF has only scheduled Miami once and those games were played in 2008 and 2009.

If we are going to say that history is relevant then why did you fail to mention thatUSF has already played UM 6 times? 3x in Miami and 3x in Tampa. Even more recently than UCF.

The UM Temple series was signed in August of 2017. The Toledo series was signed in 2010. Clearly the market place has changed. Could anyone get that same deal today?

Now UCF fans would like to say that is all USF’s fault. Conversely, USF fans say we are just reading the marketplace earlier and have adjusted. It is a circular argument.

Not that impressed that an upper tier MWC school with a big football stadium is getting H-H's with middle of the road P-12 schools such as Cal & Utah. Little surprised UCLA did somewhat but not really. SDSU has always been half decent & a good recruit/destination for opposing conferences.

(06-06-2019 08:03 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 07:59 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 07:58 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 09:06 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Moved as this is not conference related and created to specifically troll USF

Bet you're a blast at parties.....

I bring Oklahoma near beer

Hope you bought the last of it, we put on our big boy pants finally....might even get the good coke like up on the hill, we already got the wacky tabacky legal and you know that Satan's flower lines the pathway of every evil.

Prairie is almost singlehandedly making up for the near-beer days.