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It just breaks my heart over and over again.

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May their memories be eternal. The 757 is forever impacted by a crazed lunatic.

Just cannot understand why this happens.

Just a very sad and senseless thing. I can't imagine the pain of their loved ones.

Thoughts and prayers for all those impacted by this tragic event.

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Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

At less four were ODU grads. Sad day.

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

(06-02-2019 06:08 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  At less four were ODU grads. Sad day.

Tara Welch Gallagher, BS in Civil Engineering 2002, Master of Engineering 2003
Alexander Gusev, BS in Civil Engineering, 2016
Richard H. Nettleton, BS in Business Administration, 1994
Christopher Kelly Rapp, BS in Civil Engineering, 1994
Ryan Keith Cox, former student

Add the shooter and May Lou Gayle and you have over half with ties to ODU.

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

(06-02-2019 07:16 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

A good person with a gun did stop it. Unfortunately it took too long for them to get there.

If you are willing to go shooting up a building, you are me tally ill. The issue with gun control is Bad guys will still get guns.

Im still waiting for someone to come up with a solution to stop these, but unfortunately I dont know the answer

(06-02-2019 07:39 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:16 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

A good person with a gun did stop it. Unfortunately it took too long for them to get there.

I assume MrBigBlue was referring to a citizen having a gun not a cop.

(06-02-2019 08:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  If you are willing to go shooting up a building, you are me tally ill. The issue with gun control is Bad guys will still get guns.

Im still waiting for someone to come up with a solution to stop these, but unfortunately I dont know the answer

I don’t believe that to be true. There are many mentally ill people who don’t shoot up buildings. Most of these shootings occur because of some form of hatred.

I think when the investigation is all said and done, if they release a motive it’ll be something regarding the shooter being demoted or fired and he got mad

The shooter had given his two week notice, it may of been a forced resignation.

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

Sorry friend, stick with basketball recruiting. Total BS, NRA post. Nobody needs high capacity bullet clips. Last I'll post on this since this is a basketball forum for me.

(06-02-2019 09:47 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:39 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:16 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

A good person with a gun did stop it. Unfortunately it took too long for them to get there.

I assume MrBigBlue was referring to a citizen having a gun not a cop.

And that's the point. I love the men in Blue, but the fact is that they cannot stop things like this until too much damage has been done. A few well armed citizens could've kept the damage to a minimum.

Guns save lives, an average of 60 times more often then lives lost, including accidents..

(06-02-2019 09:47 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:39 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:16 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 04:40 PM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  Have we become numb to these shootings? 13 dead. 58. 32. 17. 21. When will it stop? Will it ever? I mourn for the victims. They were local people. Folks who live in our communities, went to our schools, drove past us in their cars, ate at the same restaurants we do. All of this really breaks my heart. Our lawmakers pass laws to regulate our speed, our seatbelt usage, whether or not abortions are legal and when, but somehow we can’t seem to enact sensible laws that prevent someone from picking up a gun and suddenly becoming a mass murderer. Thoughts and prayers just are not enough.

Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

A good person with a gun did stop it. Unfortunately it took too long for them to get there.

I assume MrBigBlue was referring to a citizen having a gun not a cop.

The “good guy with a gun” was actually four police officers trained in active shooting drills and who were wearing protective vests. One officer was shot, saved by the vest. A (meaning 1) good guy with a gun likely would not have been wearing a protective vest. Had the good guy been shot, he/she likely would have been killed. There are many, many mass shootings, but I have never heard of a “good guy with a gun” actually stopping one of these sprees. It’s a total fallacy that more guns is a good idea. Save for a time in the military, I have never owned or fired a gun. I don’t feel unsafe, intimidated or small. I do fear someone who has a gun strapped to his/her hip. My granddaughter, in kindergarten, had to participate in active shooter drills at her school. It scared her. It scares me every day she has to go to school because I worry about her being a target of someone who wakes up one day and decided to kill people. Life shouldn’t be like that.

(06-03-2019 06:12 AM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 09:47 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:39 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 07:16 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 06:48 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Neither is gun control. Every city in this country with strict gun control laws has extremely high gun homicide rates per capita. The ONLY way this could have been stopped is with a good person with a gun. Yes he might have shot a couple but not 12 before he would have been taken out. There was no indication of mental issues etc.

There has yet to be any shooter who was mentally ill. It’s a cop out for people to justify a person’s actions.

People always say a good person with a gun would have stopped this. How do you know who a good person? You don’t. Adding more guns to a situation (like this) will create more casualties.

A good person with a gun did stop it. Unfortunately it took too long for them to get there.

I assume MrBigBlue was referring to a citizen having a gun not a cop.

The “good guy with a gun” was actually four police officers trained in active shooting drills and who were wearing protective vests. One officer was shot, saved by the vest. A (meaning 1) good guy with a gun likely would not have been wearing a protective vest. Had the good guy been shot, he/she likely would have been killed. There are many, many mass shootings, but I have never heard of a “good guy with a gun” actually stopping one of these sprees. It’s a total fallacy that more guns is a good idea. Save for a time in the military, I have never owned or fired a gun. I don’t feel unsafe, intimidated or small. I do fear someone who has a gun strapped to his/her hip. My granddaughter, in kindergarten, had to participate in active shooter drills at her school. It scared her. It scares me every day she has to go to school because I worry about her being a target of someone who wakes up one day and decided to kill people. Life shouldn’t be like that.

Way exaggerated. Nobody is talking about carrying a gun on a hip. But conceal carry does stop crime from happening and can help in responses like this. You can't have police everywhere. I bet everyone in that building would have been thankful if there were trained armed people in that building.