(07-23-2019 04:43 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 04:34 PM)fsquid Wrote:  not much room for error there.

Nope.

It's all metal grate, too, so heaven forbid your tires are a little thin on tread.

New tires are worse...at least when I drove over it. It's better to go fast. The bridge is currently closed until Nov.

The road they connects to the Cairo bridge in Wickliffe, KY is currently down to one lane. It is eroding.

(06-01-2019 03:16 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Fat chance on either of those wants...lol

'Understanding' is pretty much non existent these days, and 'preservation' is iffy at best.

If natural causes don't get it, then the developers will.

man do I sound jaded today. lol my bad.

Natural causes, developers, protesters, antifa groups, uneducated in history type people, Do schools even teach history anymore ?? According to some TV on the street interviews a number of college students did not know who the Washington monument was named for !!! Sad state of affairs we are in today.

You act like stupid Americans is a recent concept.

(05-23-2019 12:56 AM)Dak10 Wrote:  Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(05-23-2019 12:56 AM)Dak10 Wrote:  Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Add a quick stop by the Memphis Metal Museum as well for a great view and some 2,000 year old mounds made by Native Americans and then modified by the Confederates to hide themselves and ammo from the Union.

(07-31-2019 05:44 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  [quote='Dak10' pid='16113841' dateline='1558591010']
Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Now that brings back memories. back in the mid 70's I worked down town and had a customer who had a business in the Peabody and lived in one of the tall buildings somewhere near the river. He told me once how he would stand and shave each morning and look out the window at the river. He said that one morning, while shaving he noticed a small pile of mud begin to form out in the river. Each day he saw it get progressively larger. He said that was the beginning of Mud island. Gussing by his age all that must have happened sometime in the 50's.

(06-06-2019 04:49 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  “But even this Forrest critic can admit that the Klan founder did one great thing for this country. He disbanded the KKK, and even worked to fight those who wanted to keep it going.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost....734444/amp

Where did the story that he was a founder of the klan originate?

While he was an early leader of the original version, he was not a founder.

The founders were John C. Lester, J. Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, John B. Kennedy, Frank O. McCord, and James R. Crowe

(06-02-2019 02:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(06-02-2019 11:05 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(06-01-2019 06:28 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(06-01-2019 01:29 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(05-22-2019 07:17 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Bet you're the type that is quite fond of the term Memphr*ca.

I'm "the type" that wants to see history understood and preserved.

Okay. What makes you think the name of this city will change?

Recent parks and street name changes

Was Memphis named after a famous slaveowner?

Was Memphis named after a famous supporter of a treasonous war against America?

Have you EVER known anyone to seriously take offense to this city's name?

Actually, Memphis was a very big slave trading center in ancient Egypt.

(07-31-2019 05:44 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(05-23-2019 12:56 AM)Dak10 Wrote:  Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Add a quick stop by the Memphis Metal Museum as well for a great view and some 2,000 year old mounds made by Native Americans and then modified by the Confederates to hide themselves and ammo from the Union.

Will do - thanks for the tip!

(07-31-2019 10:12 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 05:44 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  [quote='Dak10' pid='16113841' dateline='1558591010']
Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Now that brings back memories. back in the mid 70's I worked down town and had a customer who had a business in the Peabody and lived in one of the tall buildings somewhere near the river. He told me once how he would stand and shave each morning and look out the window at the river. He said that one morning, while shaving he noticed a small pile of mud begin to form orut in the river. Each day he saw it get progressively larger. He said that was the beginning of Mud island. Gussing by his age all that must have happened sometime in the 50's.

Cool story but mud island, which really isnt an island, is over 100 years old.

In the 60s Spain DeWitt airport was on mud island.

(08-01-2019 06:01 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 10:12 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 05:44 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  [quote='Dak10' pid='16113841' dateline='1558591010']
Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Now that brings back memories. back in the mid 70's I worked down town and had a customer who had a business in the Peabody and lived in one of the tall buildings somewhere near the river. He told me once how he would stand and shave each morning and look out the window at the river. He said that one morning, while shaving he noticed a small pile of mud begin to form orut in the river. Each day he saw it get progressively larger. He said that was the beginning of Mud island. Gussing by his age all that must have happened sometime in the 50's.

Cool story but mud island, which really isnt an island, is over 100 years old.

In the 60s Spain DeWitt airport was on mud island.

Hernando's right

Mud Island in the northern end was always there but extremely low & often flooded.

Mud Island as we know it probably started forming to the south around 1910.

From Clay Bailey in 2016 at the Commercial Appeal

WHAT'S IN A NAME: The "mud" part of the name is a misnomer, at least from its origin. The island was formed from silt, gravel and sand (along with a little mud probably) about 100 years ago. And, technically, it's not an "island" either. It could be classified as a peninsula because it is not surrounded by water. A causeway-type strip of land carrying North Mud Island Road prevents water on all sides.

SPEAKING OF THE NAME: It initially was known as City Island and showed up as official Memphis map in that name, according to news reports from the 1950s. A 1954 story in the old Memphis Press-Scimitar states "Mud Island" was the name used by "the Army Map Services, Corps of Engineers, U.S. Army War Department" in 1939 and revised in 1944. "Mud Island" was also used by Mississippi River flood commission maps around the same time. Former mayor and influential politician E. H. "Boss" Crump referred to it as "Mud Peninsula" and considered it an eyesore, even trying to have it dredged away.

HOW IT GOT THERE: Mud Island was formed more than 100 years ago. One of the most-accepted stories involves a double-turreted Monitor called the USS. Amphritrite (sometimes referred to as the Aphrodite) running aground on the Mississippi River across from Downtown. With the changing river, sand and gravel formed around the stern forming the sandbar that continued to grow. The Amphritrite was stuck for almost two years. When it refloated on May 12, 1912, the sandbar continued to grow. A flood in 1913 left the sandbar 25 feet above water.

Another theory, advanced by some, is the island was formed by the ebb and flow of the waterway, floods, rising waters and diversions of channels in the late-1800s and early-1900s.

FLY AWAY: Mud Island was once home of an airstrip known as the Memphis Downtown Airport. Grading for the "airport" began in 1958.

The website credits "The Aviation History of Tennessee" by Jim Fulbright as noting the airport, dedicated in October, 1959, featured a 3,100-foot runway. According to the website, the airport was used by business travelers who appreciated its convenience to downtown Memphis, even providing a ferry to cross the 300 feet of water separating Mud Island from Downtown.

"It even had a great slogan: 'You're strictly uptown when you land downtown.' " the website states.

The airport closed when the "new" Interstate 40 bridge was built directly over the north end of the runway.

BRIDGE BEGETS DEVELOPMENT: Construction of the Interstate 40 "new bridge" required dredging of the channel. Materials from that operation were dumped on the island — about 20 million cubic yards, according to Trey Giuntini, general manager of Mud Island River Park. That raised the land about 20 feet taking it out of the floodplain. Before that, there were few, if any, permanent buildings on Mud Island because of flooding in certain times of the year.

TOURIST ATTRACTION: The $63 million Mud Island River Park opened in July 4, 1982.

CATCHING CARSON'S EYE: It didn't take long for "Tonight Show" host Johnny Carson to note the park's name and make it part of his shtick. One night shortly after the park opening, Carson introduced Andy Williams, noting the singer would play Mud Island, wondering aloud about the location.

"They really ought to have another name for it than Mud Island — Mississippi River Amphitheater or something like that," Carson said.

In response, city folks sent him a bunch of mud goodies, according to reports at the time — a bottle of mud, T-shirts, etc. The package, covered with stickers proclaiming "Our Name is Mud," contained a correspondence from then-Mayor Wyeth Chandler. The mayor told him the performance site was called the Mud Island Amphitheater "for the same reason you call it 'he Johnny Carson Show' instead of 'Tonight.' Because, folks, that's what it is — a giant Mud Island that the river built in the middle of the Mississippi."

Chandler's signature was preceded with "Here's Mud in your Island."




Mud Island just forming in the Mississippi River, Steamboats on the Wolf River Harbor, Memphis TN - Circa 1900



Aerial view of Downtown, Mud Island & its Airport & Wolf River Harbor, Claridge Hotel, King Cotton Hotel, Falls Bldg, U.S. Court House-Post Office, Exchange Bldg, Lincoln American Tower, Memphis TN - Circa 1958

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(08-02-2019 11:31 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(08-01-2019 06:01 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 10:12 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 05:44 PM)Dak10 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 02:22 PM)presskh Wrote:  [quote='Dak10' pid='16113841' dateline='1558591010']
Well, it's a shame that something so special couldn't be celebrated and devolved into an argument in 5 posts.

Perfect name for a city, and it fits us well. We have a pretty awesome history, and I'm excited about our future. All things look bright athletically and we are currently in a boom. New stuff being built everywhere. Memphis is mentioned in more songs than any other city in the world.

Just got back from a quick visit to downtown Memphis last Friday with my teenage son. After eating at Corky's on Poplar, we went on the Sun Studio tour, visited the Bass Pro Shop at the Pyramid, and walked down the long sidewalk at Tom Lee Park. The observation deck at the Pyramid offers an awesome view of downtown and the river. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and I was amazed at how crowded downtown was on a Friday afternoon with no ball game being played. When I graduated at Memphis State in 1982, the Peabody had just been open about a year, Beale Street was still in shambles, and there was almost nothing else downtown except the Rendezvous. The ghettos south of downtown have now been cleaned out and replaced with street after street of nice condos, Mud Island is brimming with people, and the whole downtown seems alive with activity. Although I know there are still problems, downtown Memphis really has a lot to be proud of, compared to the shape it was in when I left. Next quick visit: The renovated old Sears Crosstown, the Zoo, which I haven't been to in about 15 years, and maybe Brooks Museum.

Now that brings back memories. back in the mid 70's I worked down town and had a customer who had a business in the Peabody and lived in one of the tall buildings somewhere near the river. He told me once how he would stand and shave each morning and look out the window at the river. He said that one morning, while shaving he noticed a small pile of mud begin to form orut in the river. Each day he saw it get progressively larger. He said that was the beginning of Mud island. Gussing by his age all that must have happened sometime in the 50's.

Cool story but mud island, which really isnt an island, is over 100 years old.

In the 60s Spain DeWitt airport was on mud island.

Hernando's right

Mud Island in the northern end was always there but extremely low & often flooded.

Mud Island as we know it probably started forming to the south around 1910.

From Clay Bailey in 2016 at the Commercial Appeal

WHAT'S IN A NAME: The "mud" part of the name is a misnomer, at least from its origin. The island was formed from silt, gravel and sand (along with a little mud probably) about 100 years ago. And, technically, it's not an "island" either. It could be classified as a peninsula because it is not surrounded by water. A causeway-type strip of land carrying North Mud Island Road prevents water on all sides.

SPEAKING OF THE NAME: It initially was known as City Island and showed up as official Memphis map in that name, according to news reports from the 1950s. A 1954 story in the old Memphis Press-Scimitar states "Mud Island" was the name used by "the Army Map Services, Corps of Engineers, U.S. Army War Department" in 1939 and revised in 1944. "Mud Island" was also used by Mississippi River flood commission maps around the same time. Former mayor and influential politician E. H. "Boss" Crump referred to it as "Mud Peninsula" and considered it an eyesore, even trying to have it dredged away.

HOW IT GOT THERE: Mud Island was formed more than 100 years ago. One of the most-accepted stories involves a double-turreted Monitor called the USS. Amphritrite (sometimes referred to as the Aphrodite) running aground on the Mississippi River across from Downtown. With the changing river, sand and gravel formed around the stern forming the sandbar that continued to grow. The Amphritrite was stuck for almost two years. When it refloated on May 12, 1912, the sandbar continued to grow. A flood in 1913 left the sandbar 25 feet above water.

Another theory, advanced by some, is the island was formed by the ebb and flow of the waterway, floods, rising waters and diversions of channels in the late-1800s and early-1900s.

FLY AWAY: Mud Island was once home of an airstrip known as the Memphis Downtown Airport. Grading for the "airport" began in 1958.

The website credits "The Aviation History of Tennessee" by Jim Fulbright as noting the airport, dedicated in October, 1959, featured a 3,100-foot runway. According to the website, the airport was used by business travelers who appreciated its convenience to downtown Memphis, even providing a ferry to cross the 300 feet of water separating Mud Island from Downtown.

"It even had a great slogan: 'You're strictly uptown when you land downtown.' " the website states.

The airport closed when the "new" Interstate 40 bridge was built directly over the north end of the runway.

BRIDGE BEGETS DEVELOPMENT: Construction of the Interstate 40 "new bridge" required dredging of the channel. Materials from that operation were dumped on the island — about 20 million cubic yards, according to Trey Giuntini, general manager of Mud Island River Park. That raised the land about 20 feet taking it out of the floodplain. Before that, there were few, if any, permanent buildings on Mud Island because of flooding in certain times of the year.

TOURIST ATTRACTION: The $63 million Mud Island River Park opened in July 4, 1982.

CATCHING CARSON'S EYE: It didn't take long for "Tonight Show" host Johnny Carson to note the park's name and make it part of his shtick. One night shortly after the park opening, Carson introduced Andy Williams, noting the singer would play Mud Island, wondering aloud about the location.

"They really ought to have another name for it than Mud Island — Mississippi River Amphitheater or something like that," Carson said.

In response, city folks sent him a bunch of mud goodies, according to reports at the time — a bottle of mud, T-shirts, etc. The package, covered with stickers proclaiming "Our Name is Mud," contained a correspondence from then-Mayor Wyeth Chandler. The mayor told him the performance site was called the Mud Island Amphitheater "for the same reason you call it 'he Johnny Carson Show' instead of 'Tonight.' Because, folks, that's what it is — a giant Mud Island that the river built in the middle of the Mississippi."

Chandler's signature was preceded with "Here's Mud in your Island."




Mud Island just forming in the Mississippi River, Steamboats on the Wolf River Harbor, Memphis TN - Circa 1900



Aerial view of Downtown, Mud Island & its Airport & Wolf River Harbor, Claridge Hotel, King Cotton Hotel, Falls Bldg, U.S. Court House-Post Office, Exchange Bldg, Lincoln American Tower, Memphis TN - Circa 1958

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I stand corrected, and thanks for all this history. Very interesting!!