(04-13-2019 12:54 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:48 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

^^^^ This... That's the only reason I mentioned Rick Pitino... more realistically, go after someone from the coaching tree of Pitino, Brown, Barnes, Calipari, Krzyzewski coaching tree.

Not fully sold on Brennan... UC should think "Elite" Coach for basketball.

Well our last 30 years of coaches have come the mid major route. The only way we bottom out is iff a rash of transfers. Don't see us getting a coach that still has juice from the p5

In that case your AD should have grabbed anther Murray State head coach (Matt McMahon) by now... really very little separation between him and Brennan.

(04-13-2019 12:48 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

^^^^ This... That's the only reason I mentioned Rick Pitino... more realistically, go after someone from the coaching tree of Pitino, Brown, Barnes, Calipari, Krzyzewski coaching tree.

Not fully sold on Brennan... UC should think "Elite" Coach for basketball.

They should at least think “any semblance of defense”.

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

“UC AD Mike Bohn mum on coaching search, but favorites seem to be John Brannen, Matt McMahon”

Quote:The only thing Bohn said was search would be wrapped up quickly, probably before the four-day dead period next week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cincinn...3458685002

(04-13-2019 02:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

https://700wlw.iheart.com/featured/lance...t-appears/

I think he's done better than you are giving him credit for. Doesn't matter though as no one on this board likely has any influence on the decision and UC's AD has done well hiring coaches.

Im glad the University of Covington is getting a local coach.

(04-13-2019 07:23 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 02:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

https://700wlw.iheart.com/featured/lance...t-appears/

I think he's done better than you are giving him credit for. Doesn't matter though as no one on this board likely has any influence on the decision and UC's AD has done well hiring coaches.

So, John Brannen it is... Coming to a theater near you Next week!!

(04-13-2019 07:34 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Im glad the University of Covington is getting a local coach.

CVG pride baby!

(04-13-2019 08:43 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 07:34 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Im glad the University of Covington is getting a local coach.

CVG pride baby!

(04-13-2019 02:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 11:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:38 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The reason for lack of candidates is because they have their guy. They want Brannen and the interview process is just a sham.

im not really thee biggest fan of brennan for a school like Cincinnati ...i see him as last resort

cincy is a school i believe should be good most years, and that is what you get with young up and comers

this isnt football, where you go with the young up and comers because they are bringing fresh ideas (like the air raid) and youthful fire....in basketball its the old heads that are the only thing consistent

someone will bring up chris beard but beard spent 11 years under bob knight..brennan has never been under a elite coach, almost all his assistant tenure was under Anthony Grant who has been subpar at any league not a 1-bid league

note john brennan succuss is literally identical to grant's succes at vcu (in the CAA)..2 ncaa's ,1 NIT

im not saying he wont get you good now and then, i just don't see it on a consistent level.

go for a old head, or someone who spents years under an elite old head

if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

Since you seem to have this all figured out as usual, please help us out and have some candidates we should be hiring. It's like you can't see anything without looking through Sampson colored glasses. UC doesn't need a rebuild like Houston did. They already have the brand and the culture. They just need a good coach. Period.

By the way, if you go back and look, Brannen recruited pretty well for VCU and Alabama, which was his main job there. He's no slam dunk, not by a long shot, but he seems to be a pretty good fit. He can take a pretty good shot with the returning roster while recruiting 2020 towards retooling the team in his system.

(04-13-2019 09:02 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 08:43 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 07:34 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Im glad the University of Covington is getting a local coach.

CVG pride baby!

Uh oh. Do I detect some liberal *******?

(12-31-1969 07:02 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Since you seem to have this all figured out as usual, please help us out and have some candidates we should be hiring. It's like you can't see anything without looking through Sampson colored glasses. UC doesn't need a rebuild like Houston did. They already have the brand and the culture. They just need a good coach. Period.

By the way, if you go back and look, Brannen recruited pretty well for VCU and Alabama, which was his main job there. He's no slam dunk, not by a long shot, but he seems to be a pretty good fit. He can take a pretty good shot with the returning roster while recruiting 2020 towards retooling the team in his system.

I might be looking looking Sampson colored glasses but I was on it before we hired sampson ..
When we hired sampson it was him or John Lucas ( if you aren't aware Lucas is the biggest AAU person in America, whose base is in Houston)
I was very adamant that I wanted Sampson and not Lucas.. we would have been guaranteed 5stars with Lucas (note Texas and TCU have his sons on their staff)

And It has nothing to do with rebuild.. but that once Sampson teams get good they stay good. That he had mastered a system..Lucas has NBA head coaching experience but no college

As far as my pick: Thad matta .. evaluate his health.. if he is good, it's no question. He didn't forget how to coach
He knows everyone in the Ohio area from his previous stops, history of consistent success . tournament success... He has a system mastered in an area he is already established

I think UC is good next season regardless of who is hired (2020) ... Matta/pitino are the only coaches I'd feel confident about for 2021

Pitino is my #2 on coaching one I like him more than matta, as he is desperately hungry to prove he is still elite and restore his image.. but controversy....

Is no UC fan worried than brennens mentor had identical success in a mid-major but couldn't win a high major??? that will be the system you'll be running

(04-13-2019 10:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-31-1969 07:02 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Since you seem to have this all figured out as usual, please help us out and have some candidates we should be hiring. It's like you can't see anything without looking through Sampson colored glasses. UC doesn't need a rebuild like Houston did. They already have the brand and the culture. They just need a good coach. Period.

By the way, if you go back and look, Brannen recruited pretty well for VCU and Alabama, which was his main job there. He's no slam dunk, not by a long shot, but he seems to be a pretty good fit. He can take a pretty good shot with the returning roster while recruiting 2020 towards retooling the team in his system.

I might be looking looking Sampson colored glasses but I was on it before we hired sampson ..
When we hired sampson it was him or John Lucas ( if you aren't aware Lucas is the biggest AAU person in America, whose base is in Houston)
I was very adamant that I wanted Sampson and not Lucas.. we would have been guaranteed 5stars with Lucas (note Texas and TCU have his sons on their staff)

And It has nothing to do with rebuild.. but that once Sampson teams get good they stay good. That he had mastered a system..Lucas has NBA head coaching experience but no college

As far as my pick: Thad matta .. evaluate his health.. if he is good, it's no question. He didn't forget how to coach
He knows everyone in the Ohio area from his previous stops, history of consistent success . tournament success... He has a system mastered in an area he is already established

I think UC is good next season regardless of who is hired (2020) ... Matta/pitino are the only coaches I'd feel confident about for 2021

Pitino is my #2 on coaching one I like him more than matta, as he is desperately hungry to prove he is still elite and restore his image.. but controversy....

Is no UC fan worried than brennens mentor had identical success in a mid-major but couldn't win a high major??? that will be the system you'll be running

I'd love Matta. He's the number one pick by most UC fans. He's a great coach who would be perfect here. But he's not healthy. His back just can't hold up to the grind of college coaching and some say he doesn't want to even try. That's all the reports I've read is that it can hold up on a normal schedule, but not when you need to coach on a high major basketball schedule.

Pitino is a non starter. UC isn't interested in whoring ourselves out to a coach that has not only broken NCAA rules twice, but has lied about it and might likely receive a show cause penalty before too long..

Finally, why are you assuming that Brannen runs Grants system? Brannens teams have played much faster and have not focused strongly on the defensive end like Grant seemed to do. Just because you came up under a guy, does not make you beholden to the exact style he runs. Brannen isn't Grant. Once you can divorce that idea out of your mind, you'll understand why using legacy to hire coaches is a bad idea. Good coaches create their own legacy.

Again, I'd love if we hire Matta, but if we pass it isn't going to be because of the coaching aspect. I don't know if Brannen will be great, but if you think there are just proven head coaches waiting out there for us to get, you are kidding yourself. Hiring a guy that looks like as rising star makes sense in this exact cycle where no veteran coaches exist to pick from. We can't just wait for one to appear.

(04-13-2019 09:18 PM)MTXE Wrote:  Uh oh. Do I detect some liberal *******?

It’s ok, sunshine. Not everyone can get the joke every time.

I like wearing the shirt around town and dishing out assault smirks.

maga has the best bits.

(04-13-2019 02:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

riding out a couple of years is nothing

(04-14-2019 08:01 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 02:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 01:13 PM)Lush Wrote:  if you unstuck your head from kelvin's ass you'd realize that all great coaches have to get their start from somewhere. sticking with hasbeens is a plea for help. yall got lucky so congrats. but kalvin has always been a good coach. brannen's my guy

i said for "Cincinnati"...all great coaches has to have a start somewhere and have to go through some up and downs before they figure out the right formula

a question for you: would you be okay with cincy missing 3 of the next 5 tournaments while brennan is getting a handle on multibids leagues??

he has never coached on an elite team in a multibid league, even as an assistant..but you think he'll have it mastered day 1???

UC has a good roster next season (so lets say he makes the tourney next season) but uc takes huge players losses after that. lets start from there..

Brennan is not an elite recruiting coach, nor is cincy a school that naturally just draws elite talent...(my point: there is no distinct advantage of UC over the rest of the AAC competitively)...second question: if USF hired brennan (they could if their coach left), would they would be top of the league every season?
again his mentor had identical success to him in the mid-major but was sub-par in a multi-bid

developing players is an art, x and os in an art, recruiting is an art, having a reloading system is an art and that takes experience to master....hell even scouting, the biggest scouting tool a coach can have is calling other coaches who you've built relationship with for out of conference games (who play them regularly) and that takes time

almost every elite coach in a multi-bid league either had a not so great coach to start their career, or spent years under an elite coach

summary: i dont think brennan is a bad coach, i think he would be great for a middling aac program who wouldn't need immediate success..but that isnt cincy..you know the standard set at cincy

riding out a couple of years is nothing

Riding out a year or two is not even an issue. With graduate transfers and the nucleus of the current team, this group could make the tournament. When Huggins took over in 89, he had 4 scholarship players and was a whisker from making the tournament in his first year. Cronin had a decimated roster but in year four, we were back on target. The University of Cincinnati basketball program will overcome a coaching change. These fans from other teams are clueless.

(04-14-2019 01:26 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

To the surprise of no one.