(05-01-2019 10:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I don't usually partake in these sidebars, but my dude... Paying recruits doesn't come from the athletic budget since it's an NCAA violation.

Obviously you cant take athletic budget money and hand it to players. However, schools have been known to fudge accounting numbers on travel, food, lodging, and team expenses and misappropriate those funds. Just saying, we don't have donors ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars to get kids here. Stanz got high profile recruits at Miss St and has deep connections in recruiting pipelines everywhere he goes. Just think it's sour grapes saying we are blatantly cheating when there is zero evidence to the contrary.

Hate to break this to you, but a lot of programs cheat by handing out cash to players. I'm not accusing Stans or anyone else, but if you think it doesn't happen, you are just fooling yourself. Have a nice day

(05-01-2019 11:28 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I don't usually partake in these sidebars, but my dude... Paying recruits doesn't come from the athletic budget since it's an NCAA violation.

Obviously you cant take athletic budget money and hand it to players. However, schools have been known to fudge accounting numbers on travel, food, lodging, and team expenses and misappropriate those funds. Just saying, we don't have donors ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars to get kids here. Stanz got high profile recruits at Miss St and has deep connections in recruiting pipelines everywhere he goes. Just think it's sour grapes saying we are blatantly cheating when there is zero evidence to the contrary.

Hate to break this to you, but a lot of programs cheat by handing out cash to players. I'm not accusing Stans or anyone else, but if you think it doesn't happen, you are just fooling yourself. Have a nice day

I think the only school being discussed here is Western....

so your point is meaningless. Western is not out bidding other schools for these recruits. Unless it giving out asst coaching jobs. Which isn't against NCAA rules and something ODU has done.

(05-01-2019 11:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:28 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I don't usually partake in these sidebars, but my dude... Paying recruits doesn't come from the athletic budget since it's an NCAA violation.

Obviously you cant take athletic budget money and hand it to players. However, schools have been known to fudge accounting numbers on travel, food, lodging, and team expenses and misappropriate those funds. Just saying, we don't have donors ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars to get kids here. Stanz got high profile recruits at Miss St and has deep connections in recruiting pipelines everywhere he goes. Just think it's sour grapes saying we are blatantly cheating when there is zero evidence to the contrary.

Hate to break this to you, but a lot of programs cheat by handing out cash to players. I'm not accusing Stans or anyone else, but if you think it doesn't happen, you are just fooling yourself. Have a nice day

I think the only school being discussed here is Western....

so your point is meaningless. Western is not out bidding other schools for these recruits. Unless it giving out asst coaching jobs. Which isn't against NCAA rules and something ODU has done.

Welcome to the sidebar.

My comment was addressing this quote: "Also, if we are paying players I'm not sure where this money is coming from"

Notice my other comment where I say I am not accusing Stans of doing any of it.

I realize ODU hired Stith. Fortunately Stith actually does real coaching and has 14 years of experience playing in the NBA. You are more than welcome to stay on the defensive about the pedigree of your assistant coach, which I never questioned btw.

(05-01-2019 12:11 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:28 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I don't usually partake in these sidebars, but my dude... Paying recruits doesn't come from the athletic budget since it's an NCAA violation.

Obviously you cant take athletic budget money and hand it to players. However, schools have been known to fudge accounting numbers on travel, food, lodging, and team expenses and misappropriate those funds. Just saying, we don't have donors ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars to get kids here. Stanz got high profile recruits at Miss St and has deep connections in recruiting pipelines everywhere he goes. Just think it's sour grapes saying we are blatantly cheating when there is zero evidence to the contrary.

Hate to break this to you, but a lot of programs cheat by handing out cash to players. I'm not accusing Stans or anyone else, but if you think it doesn't happen, you are just fooling yourself. Have a nice day

I think the only school being discussed here is Western....

so your point is meaningless. Western is not out bidding other schools for these recruits. Unless it giving out asst coaching jobs. Which isn't against NCAA rules and something ODU has done.

Welcome to the sidebar.

My comment was addressing this quote: "Also, if we are paying players I'm not sure where this money is coming from"

Notice my other comment where I say I am not accusing Stans of doing any of it.

I realize ODU hired Stith. Fortunately Stith actually does real coaching and has 14 years of experience playing in the NBA. You are more than welcome to stay on the defensive about the pedigree of your assistant coach, which I never questioned btw.

Yet those 14 years in the NBA only landed him a high school coaching job. That is till ODU hired him and his two sons, playing at ECU and Virgina (top 100 player) followed him to ODU .

I'm not on the defense, I know exactly why Auriantal was hired. You are the one trying to defend ODU hiring a high school coach. Paint it any way you want but it's the same thing Western did.

(05-01-2019 12:24 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Yet those 14 years in the NBA only landed him a high school coaching job. That is till ODU hired him and his two sons, playing at ECU and Virgina (top 100 player) followed him to ODU .

I'm not on the defense, I know exactly why Auriantal was hired. You are the one trying to defend ODU hiring a high school coach. Paint it any way you want but it's the same thing Western did.

I am sorry that Stith offends you so much. I am not painting anything, I really don't care about how WKU landed Bassey. I've always been supportive of it. But since you keep bringing up Stith, here's the picture: Branden and BJ Stith both graduated and are no longer on the roster, and Bryant Stith is still our assistant coach.

I guess we will see what happens with your assistant once Bassey leaves, but truthfully, I couldn't care less.

Anyway, back to the thread:

(05-01-2019 12:24 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 12:11 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:28 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  Obviously you cant take athletic budget money and hand it to players. However, schools have been known to fudge accounting numbers on travel, food, lodging, and team expenses and misappropriate those funds. Just saying, we don't have donors ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars to get kids here. Stanz got high profile recruits at Miss St and has deep connections in recruiting pipelines everywhere he goes. Just think it's sour grapes saying we are blatantly cheating when there is zero evidence to the contrary.

Hate to break this to you, but a lot of programs cheat by handing out cash to players. I'm not accusing Stans or anyone else, but if you think it doesn't happen, you are just fooling yourself. Have a nice day

I think the only school being discussed here is Western....

so your point is meaningless. Western is not out bidding other schools for these recruits. Unless it giving out asst coaching jobs. Which isn't against NCAA rules and something ODU has done.

Welcome to the sidebar.

My comment was addressing this quote: "Also, if we are paying players I'm not sure where this money is coming from"

Notice my other comment where I say I am not accusing Stans of doing any of it.

I realize ODU hired Stith. Fortunately Stith actually does real coaching and has 14 years of experience playing in the NBA. You are more than welcome to stay on the defensive about the pedigree of your assistant coach, which I never questioned btw.

Yet those 14 years in the NBA only landed him a high school coaching job. That is till ODU hired him and his two sons, playing at ECU and Virgina (top 100 player) followed him to ODU .

I'm not on the defense, I know exactly why Auriantal was hired. You are the one trying to defend ODU hiring a high school coach. Paint it any way you want but it's the same thing Western did.

Bryant Stith only coached at the local high school for his small rural community because he was asked to do it. He did not pursue any coaching jobs prior to Jeff Jones becoming head coach at ODU. Jeff coached Bryant at UVA and Bryant had kept in touch with Jeff over the years. He also credits Jeff for some of the success he has had in life. When Jeff was hired at ODU Bryant was there from day one when it was announced in support of Jeff and asked Jeff for a position on his new staff. The Stiths are a tight knit family and that led to his two sons relocating to ODU. Bryant also coached them both in high school and won multiple state championships while coaching them there.

Added UAB landing JR SF Rashawn Fredericks from Cincinnati. Sit one play two

Justice Kithcart leaving ODU, leaving us with no experienced PGs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayKit_/statu...2784741376

Ryan Wooldridge leaving UNT as a graduate transfer. That's a pretty significant loss.

https://twitter.com/_callmesmoove?lang=en

clt says UNC CHeat hired Tyler hansboros mom

(05-03-2019 02:08 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Justice Kithcart leaving ODU, leaving us with no experienced PGs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayKit_/statu...2784741376

Tbh I don't think I would've deemed Kithcart as that experienced either.

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(05-03-2019 03:51 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Ryan Wooldridge leaving UNT as a graduate transfer. That's a pretty significant loss.

https://twitter.com/_callmesmoove?lang=en

That one definitely hurts. We have a boatload of incoming transfers that announced in the last few days though. Hopefully some of them can step up and fill the void.

(05-03-2019 03:51 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Ryan Wooldridge leaving UNT as a graduate transfer. That's a pretty significant loss.

https://twitter.com/_callmesmoove?lang=en

Wow. Ouch. You guys didn't have a lot of depth this past year. That loss hurts.

We are now up to 26 players announced intent to transfer

Rice gets a graduate transfer in Harvard point guard Tommy McCarthy. He started for Harvard as a freshman but didn't play much the last three years there. Probably will just be providing bench help for us in 2019-20 (assuming we aren't losing anyone else at this point).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1124824176127283200

FAU picks up a grad transfer in 2* JR PG Cornelius Taylor from Lincoln Memorial, eligible immediately

A GS from a D2---that's different--not that there is anything wrong with that.

(05-06-2019 02:37 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  A GS from a D2---that's different--not that there is anything wrong with that.

Taylor averaged 19.5 points a game in D2 - that's legit at any level. UH had a D2 transfer in hoops last year who got some attention right away (although to be honest, he couldn't break the rotation for their top-10 team).

I do admit when I saw Lincoln Memorial right away, I thought it was a high school team because I've never heard of that school. But they do have some top-10 D2 programs, so props to the Railsplitters.

(05-03-2019 06:48 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 03:51 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Ryan Wooldridge leaving UNT as a graduate transfer. That's a pretty significant loss.

https://twitter.com/_callmesmoove?lang=en

That one definitely hurts. We have a boatload of incoming transfers that announced in the last few days though. Hopefully some of them can step up and fill the void.

I am sure your non conference schedule will allow everyone a chance to get roles locked down and get the chemistry down before you play some real teams....