(07-27-2019 06:20 PM)esayem Wrote:  ... it’s still the ACC core, but it’s a weird franken-hybrid.

True. Honestly surprised that ACC hasn't divided into a "core ACC" division and a "new" division.

(07-28-2019 07:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 06:20 PM)esayem Wrote:  ... it’s still the ACC core, but it’s a weird franken-hybrid.

True. Honestly surprised that ACC hasn't divided into a "core ACC" division and a "new" division.

The reason they haven’t is that there is no easy 7-7 split:

FSU has to be grouped with the old guard for a Florida presence in both divisions:

UVA, UNC, Duke, NC St, WF, Clemson, GT, FSU—that’s 8 schools and finding one willing to give up traditional and geographic rivalries is a tough sell.

Trying to get a pair to go over (provided they have their choice of protected crossovers) is also tricky. BC, Cuse, Pitt, and Miami all fall firmly in the “New” Division leaving VT and Louisville as the likely options. Sending one of them over with Clemson and FSU would create very competitively imbalanced divisions.

About the only way to solve this would be to find 2 more schools for the New Division and unless ND wants to be one of those two it’s a no go.

(07-26-2019 08:52 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:49 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 02:05 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 02:03 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 01:55 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Just when I thought the obsession with UCONN was over, the exit fee was announced and here we go again.

All of you UCONN haters, look around and ask yourself if your school would ever get this much attention.

Peace!

Meh- I think it is not really UConn hate. What you are you seeing are people react to all the posts from certain fans who constantly take shots at the AAC and its schools. People having posting for the last month that the AAC is about to lose revenue, lose recruits, lose TV exposure, lose coaches, etc. because UConn is joining the Big East. Same posters are talking about UConn FB is suddenly going to put together monster schedules with H/H deals with OSU, Penn State, Clemson, Bama, etc.

Funny thing is most of the clowns dogging schools like Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and others are fans from schools like UTEP, San Jose State, Rutgers, Northern Arizona, Georgetown (great history but hasn't done crap lately), Marquette (see Georgetown), etc.

Very fair points!

Not really, Cincy fans and the AAC in general deserve to be dogged on. If the AAC fans don't liked to be dogged on by Rutgers fans then they shouldn't be throwing stones since they live in glass houses. Also Georgetown and Marquette have made final fours a lot more recently than all but one current AAC member and they weren't in the AAC then.

Rutgers - the joke that never ends

New money people are the worst

New money? Hey pal, guess who has always been part of the power structure from the Bowl Alliance through the BCS and now the CFP? It hasn't been SMU it's been Rutgers. New money my ass

(07-27-2019 02:32 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 05:45 PM)scoscox Wrote:  Except UConn basketball is an exponentially bigger and more successful brand and the Big East is much better than the WCC. OTOH, BYU football is much better.

UConn is only a superior brand to BYU in Basketball and since basketball is only worth 20-25% of the media rights as football and football has much larger ticket sales, donations, viewership and affect on the culture, BYU's brand is way bigger than UConn's and it's not even close. And that doesn't even include the clout and branding of the LDS church on BYU football.

The BE is better than the WCC. Villanova > Gonzaga but that could change.

But only 7-9 games to sell tickets as opposed to almost 20 in basketball. UConn is the bigger brand nationally.

(07-26-2019 10:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^ LOL

Ohio State fans in 2011: Cincinnati's schedule stinks, they play schools like UConn and Rutgers
Ohio State fans in 2021: Man our schedule is legit. We have UConn and Rutgers.

LOL! There’s a lot of truth to that.

With UConn joining next year, the following changes to scheduling will take place:

The Big East will be moving to twenty conference games, eliminating two OOC opportunities for each program. The conference will now have three programs "exempt" from the Gavitt Games (B1G/BE Challenge) until 2022 (three seasons), as there are eight contests annually. Finally, the league will also now have one program "exempt" annually from the BE/Big 12 challenge through 2023, as there are ten contests annually.

I highly doubt that the team exempt from the Big 12 challenge will also be exempt from the Gavitt Games. I would also expect, in coming seasons, to see an extension of the Gavitt Games with the B1G, and also possibly increase the number of annual games between conferences (especially with the addition of UConn). The challenge has been a resounding success and very even through five seasons.

(07-28-2019 10:36 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I would also expect, in coming seasons, to see an extension of the Gavitt Games with the B1G, and also possibly increase the number of annual games between conferences (especially with the addition of UConn). The challenge has been a resounding success and very even through five seasons.

It doesn't hurt that the overlap in footprint means that the Big East schools are located in a lot of the important B1G cities.

(07-28-2019 10:58 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-28-2019 10:36 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I would also expect, in coming seasons, to see an extension of the Gavitt Games with the B1G, and also possibly increase the number of annual games between conferences (especially with the addition of UConn). The challenge has been a resounding success and very even through five seasons.

It doesn't hurt that the overlap in footprint means that the Big East schools are located in a lot of the important B1G cities.

And it also doesn't hurt that the B1G still desires a stronger presence in NYC and at MSG. Recently, it was announced that Michigan will "host" Rutgers at Madison Square Garden this season. The B1G will never be able to supplant the Big East for its men's basketball tournament site. The Big East has a new contract with MSG that lasts through 2028, thanks to a recent extension.

Perhaps both conferences can arrange for select Gavitt Games to be played at MSG as part of a shootout. That is something the B1G would definitely be interested in.

(07-28-2019 11:30 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Perhaps both conferences can arrange for select Gavitt Games to be played at MSG as part of a shootout. That is something the B1G would definitely be interested in.

You know, a Saturday UConn-St Johns-Seton Hall triple-header against select B1G opponents at MSG rolled into the Gavitt Games would be quite the basketball festival. Never thought of that before.

EDIT: Or, hell, if your season ticket holders (understandably) raise a stink about a Gavitt Game being taken out of their package, do something like that in a year where the three teams that aren't included in the Gavitt Games are all out of the east coast group and have them play three B1G teams that aren't in the GG in a neutral-site day-long event.

(07-26-2019 10:28 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  The football schedule for 2020 will be brutal

Maybe not...

Well why in f*ck would they not be reaching out. It is an auto-FCS win that counts as an FBS win........

(08-01-2019 01:00 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:28 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  The football schedule for 2020 will be brutal

Maybe not...

Well why in f*ck would they be reaching out. It is an auto-FCS win that counts as an FBS win........

Liberty and UMass?

As a Syracuse fan, I'd probably be more interested in UConn as a G5 opponent than most MAC, SBC or CUSA schools.

(07-28-2019 11:35 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-28-2019 11:30 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Perhaps both conferences can arrange for select Gavitt Games to be played at MSG as part of a shootout. That is something the B1G would definitely be interested in.

You know, a Saturday UConn-St Johns-Seton Hall triple-header against select B1G opponents at MSG rolled into the Gavitt Games would be quite the basketball festival. Never thought of that before.

Could do the same thing in Chicago with Marquette, DePaul, and Butler playing Big Ten teams at United Center.

(08-01-2019 03:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-28-2019 11:35 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-28-2019 11:30 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Perhaps both conferences can arrange for select Gavitt Games to be played at MSG as part of a shootout. That is something the B1G would definitely be interested in.

You know, a Saturday UConn-St Johns-Seton Hall triple-header against select B1G opponents at MSG rolled into the Gavitt Games would be quite the basketball festival. Never thought of that before.

Could do the same thing in Chicago with Marquette, DePaul, and Butler playing Big Ten teams at United Center.

I trust Creighton or X to put a crowd in the United Center more than I trust DePaul. That being said, the B1G probably doesn't need the extra exposure in Chicago in the same way that the Big East can help in New York.

(07-28-2019 08:45 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:52 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:49 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 02:05 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 02:03 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Meh- I think it is not really UConn hate. What you are you seeing are people react to all the posts from certain fans who constantly take shots at the AAC and its schools. People having posting for the last month that the AAC is about to lose revenue, lose recruits, lose TV exposure, lose coaches, etc. because UConn is joining the Big East. Same posters are talking about UConn FB is suddenly going to put together monster schedules with H/H deals with OSU, Penn State, Clemson, Bama, etc.

Funny thing is most of the clowns dogging schools like Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and others are fans from schools like UTEP, San Jose State, Rutgers, Northern Arizona, Georgetown (great history but hasn't done crap lately), Marquette (see Georgetown), etc.

Very fair points!

Not really, Cincy fans and the AAC in general deserve to be dogged on. If the AAC fans don't liked to be dogged on by Rutgers fans then they shouldn't be throwing stones since they live in glass houses. Also Georgetown and Marquette have made final fours a lot more recently than all but one current AAC member and they weren't in the AAC then.

Rutgers - the joke that never ends

New money people are the worst

New money? Hey pal, guess who has always been part of the power structure from the Bowl Alliance through the BCS and now the CFP? It hasn't been SMU it's been Rutgers. New money my ass

This might be the least amount of power I’ve ever seen go to someone’s head.

I see you in every thread dogging on the AAC and the schools in it. Is it because Rutgers gets so much crap from them? I suppose I could sort of understand that (Rutgers prob gets dogged on a bit much), but that’s the only reasoning for why you have such a unrelenting bias against any school in the AAC.

(08-01-2019 03:08 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-01-2019 01:00 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:28 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  The football schedule for 2020 will be brutal

Maybe not...

Well why in f*ck would they be reaching out. It is an auto-FCS win that counts as an FBS win........

Liberty and UMass?

As a Syracuse fan, I'd probably be more interested in UConn as a G5 opponent than most MAC, SBC or CUSA schools.

Proof will be in the pudding. Hope it works for UConn.