(03-01-2019 10:29 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 08:39 AM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 06:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  https://msuspartans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=750&path=mbball

Not enthusiastic about hiring a MSU or UM assistant. Would prefer someone with head coaching experience at lower levels.

I'd be okay with it although Alexander was once an up and comer until he became head coach at U of D. I'd like a guy who has experience recruiting Div I caliber instate players as well as Midwestern states.

Charles Ramsey, Monty from NIU, etc. Yuck.

I don’t trust Beilein or Izzo assistants. Not sure how much they contribute to overall success.

(03-01-2019 02:06 PM)emu79 Wrote:  I get this thread irritates certain people and I have to admit there is a part of me that hopes Murphy wins the MAC tournament and we go to the NCAAs as any other chance of another post season tourney is gone. Unfortunately that isn't likely to happen no matter how much I wish it would. Murphy had some wonderful seasons and a lot of unfulfilled ones like the Raven Lee, Toney Mangum senior team and this year's team. I would agree that if Murphy is at .500 or above at the end of this season he is probably back next year and will be a lame duck. I don't think based on the current composition of the Regents that you will find much support for Murphy but they love not spending money when they don't have to so Murphy may be back for economic reasons. I really don't have any faith left that Murphy will take this team where we would all like it to be. I started this thread because whether Murphy doesn't come back this year or after next year a change is needed. Yeah maybe Murphy wins 20 next year I guess anything can happen right?

As much as I don't think Rob is a D1 NCAA coach, keeping him another year is probably the prudent choice.

First and foremost we don't have $300K to buy him out.

He does one thing quite well and that is recruit. In a do or die situation that next year presents, I see him returning to his previous strategy of recruiting JUCO players like Toney and Mangum for 2020. This not only presents a brighter picture for next season but also does not saddle a successor with a recruiting class like that of two years ago. Peterson, Ballard, etc... A new coach will have a true opportunity to build a program as he will inherit mostly upperclassmen.

I also want the athletic director to devote his full time to searching and selecting the best candidate, instead of defending Title IX issues as he is now.

As much as we might hate to admit it, EMU is perceived by many as a "graveyard job" to many qualified P5 assistants. I expect that Chris Creighton will have a great season this year and serve to dispel this notion about EMU athletics. This could expand the pool of applicants.

Right now I would be leaning towards Bronkema from Ferris State as our best option. Despite losing his center as a grad transfer to Xavier, he has had another good season after winning a national championship.

No way ANYONE should support the EMU basketball program if the university is too cheap to let go of a lame duck basketball coach who has ZERO chance of signing a new contract after the upcoming season. That would be a slap to anyone who has ever taken a class at EMU. Fire Murphy, like a normal DI program would or boycott the season.

Ohio just let Saul Phillips go - did not renew his contract. Saw that coming.

Wish we had ANY word on our situation. We haven't gotten the "new leadership for EMU basketball press release" or the "AD vote of confidence" message on Murphy.

Our current AD spent a few years at Miss St. One of the men's hoops assistants is Ernie Zeigler which I know we would all pass on. Here's the other two assistants. I'm putting them here because you can't discount personal connections sometimes:

https://hailstate.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1991&path=mbball

https://hailstate.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1990&path=mbball

(03-13-2019 09:11 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Ohio just let Saul Phillips go - did not renew his contract. Saw that coming.

Wish we had ANY word on our situation. We haven't gotten the "new leadership for EMU basketball press release" or the "AD vote of confidence" message on Murphy.

Phillips was pulling down $572,000 per year and Murphy is making about 50% of that.

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/20...university

We fired Ramsey pretty late after the season was over, so I am holding out hope that we are still going to make a move with Murphy. Seems like something that should be done quickly, though. It gives you more time to get a pool of candidates together.

(03-13-2019 09:52 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:11 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Ohio just let Saul Phillips go - did not renew his contract. Saw that coming.

Wish we had ANY word on our situation. We haven't gotten the "new leadership for EMU basketball press release" or the "AD vote of confidence" message on Murphy.

Phillips was pulling down $572,000 per year and Murphy is making about 50% of that.

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/20...university

I have NO idea what our AD will do.

IF he pulls the plug on Murphy, he'll have to increase the next HC's salary by say 100K over what Murphy is making.

We consistently pay our revenue sports HCs minimal salaries, compared to their MAC peers.

(03-13-2019 10:52 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:52 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:11 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Ohio just let Saul Phillips go - did not renew his contract. Saw that coming.

Wish we had ANY word on our situation. We haven't gotten the "new leadership for EMU basketball press release" or the "AD vote of confidence" message on Murphy.

Phillips was pulling down $572,000 per year and Murphy is making about 50% of that.

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/20...university

I have NO idea what our AD will do.

IF he pulls the plug on Murphy, he'll have to increase the next HC's salary by say 100K over what Murphy is making.

We consistently pay our revenue sports HCs minimal salaries, compared to their MAC peers.

EMU salaries are low for the G5, but high for FCS and D2. CC was making $170k at Drake. EMU pays double the MEAC and similar conferences. Its a win-win for EMU and the coach (we keep our salary in line with the budget and they get a huge raise).

(03-13-2019 10:59 AM)masttg Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 10:52 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:52 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:11 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Ohio just let Saul Phillips go - did not renew his contract. Saw that coming.

Wish we had ANY word on our situation. We haven't gotten the "new leadership for EMU basketball press release" or the "AD vote of confidence" message on Murphy.

Phillips was pulling down $572,000 per year and Murphy is making about 50% of that.

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/20...university

I have NO idea what our AD will do.

IF he pulls the plug on Murphy, he'll have to increase the next HC's salary by say 100K over what Murphy is making.

We consistently pay our revenue sports HCs minimal salaries, compared to their MAC peers.

EMU salaries are low for the G5, but high for FCS and D2. CC was making $170k at Drake. EMU pays double the MEAC and similar conferences. Its a win-win for EMU and the coach (we keep our salary in line with the budget and they get a huge raise).

I agree we need a coach that looks at this situation as an upgrade and a challenge. It would be nice if they had successful head coaching experience.

Here are some names that Ohio U may be looking at:

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/20...s-to-watch

The Stony Brook name is interesting as Stony Brook has recruited Michigan high school players in the past.

Would someone quote me a probability that Murphy won't be back?

Everyone is racking their brain for what they want in the next coach but as far as we know next year's EMU HC is still Murphy.

Sometimes this reminds me of the old, "IF I win the lottery, I'll probably retire and..." Psychologists call that fantasy and escape.

I'll guess it is 50 - 50. I have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what our AD is thinking.

A recent example would be Saul Phillips. He took over a built program and had a .472 MAC record and got released today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Phill...asketball)

Here's another interesting name from the same school that Ohio U tapped Philips.

https://gobison.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1259&path=mbball

(03-13-2019 11:59 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Would someone quote me a probability that Murphy won't be back?

Everyone is racking their brain for what they want in the next coach but as far as we know next year's EMU HC is still Murphy.

Sometimes this reminds me of the old, "IF I win the lottery, I'll probably retire and..." Psychologists call that fantasy and escape.

I'll guess it is 50 - 50. I have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what our AD is thinking.

A recent example would be Saul Phillips. He took over a built program and had a .472 MAC record and got released today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Phill...asketball)

The only way Murphy comes back is purely because of the $$$ it would take to buy out his current contract. Yes he could come back next year and limp through a final year and then get canned. Seriously Murphy hasn't evolved or grown as a coach so how can we expect him to develop players? He may be back but not because a majority of EMU fans those few of us left want him back. I was the one of the only ones skeptical going into this year because of losing Bond and Nobles. The only players I thought that irmproved this year were Macdoo, Toure (low bar) and Silver. The big three of Jackson, Thompson and Minnie were better the year before because of Bond.

(03-13-2019 11:59 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Would someone quote me a probability that Murphy won't be back?

Everyone is racking their brain for what they want in the next coach but as far as we know next year's EMU HC is still Murphy.

Sometimes this reminds me of the old, "IF I win the lottery, I'll probably retire and..." Psychologists call that fantasy and escape.

I'll guess it is 50 - 50. I have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what our AD is thinking.

A recent example would be Saul Phillips. He took over a built program and had a .472 MAC record and got released today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Phill...asketball)

Over the last 3 years Phillips had: 11, 7 and 6 wins (within conf).

Murphy had: 7, 11, and 9.

11 -> 7 --> 6 will get a coach fired...

Ohio and EMU are in different financial situations. If we were not strapped for cash in the Athletic Department and the University as a whole Murphy would have been bought out after Monday's loss if not earlier in the year.

(03-13-2019 12:22 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  Ohio and EMU are in different financial situations. If we were not strapped for cash in the Athletic Department and the University as a whole Murphy would have been bought out after Monday's loss if not earlier in the year.

I assume you are correct, but not sure.

Phillips was 11, 7, and 6 MAC wins and that is not good for a program which has had a good winning record for many years.

Murphy is .500 for the last 3 years. I'm not sure that 11 and 9 MAC wins the last 2 years gets a coach fired.

Dear Friends,
According to the Bronco Stampede the Ohio University basketball coach has been fired.

(03-13-2019 12:30 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 12:22 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  Ohio and EMU are in different financial situations. If we were not strapped for cash in the Athletic Department and the University as a whole Murphy would have been bought out after Monday's loss if not earlier in the year.

I assume you are correct, but not sure.

Phillips was 11, 7, and 6 MAC wins and that is not good for a program which has had a good winning record for many years.

Murphy is .500 for the last 3 years. I'm not sure that 11 and 9 MAC wins the last 2 years gets a coach fired.

Bingo. What worries me the most, is that despite all of our disappointments, we still finished 9-9 in the conference. Could be the excuse used to not buy him out of his final year.

Not all 9-9's are equal, and I hope they realize that. A mediocre record with that group of players should've never happened, and it will only be worse next year. Now is the time. Hopefully a new coach can retain Groce, Toure, and McAdoo (among others), while reloading the talent pool overall.

And a bad out of conference season as well. Remember that bad loss to UDM? Struggling with Rochester? 4 points in the 1st half against Rutgers?

We finished the season sub-.500. Let's not forget that.