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(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

I think you are absolutely right. My nephew played in the OHL for three years he’s played for two different teams and he said it’s a training ground for thr NHL and the coaches are tasks masters and relentless it’s their job to turn out the best players they can. He told me only the tough survive and get to the next level by perfecting their game and listening to the tutelage of the coaches.Murray is running his team in the only manner that he knows will breed success he’s tough and relentless but with his vast pro hockey experience he clearly knowswhat it takes to win and move up. The league WMU is in is the best in the country and every team comes to play. WMU has the type of coach needed for success and for aspiring NHLers.

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

I would be beyond shocked if Allison stayed another year unless Philly wants him to continue to rehab his injury another year later. Last year, before he got hurt, Wade proved himself with some of the games he had. I know that one of the main reasons he stayed was because of his buddy Colt Conrad, theyve been playing together since they were like 10 years old.

Samuelsson is AHL ready, I would highly doubt he would stick around, Buffalo is probably ready for him. It wont be long until he will be in the NHL.

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I couldn't agree more with that statement about Allison, I watched first hand in Vegas live, he just doesnt look the same.

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 01:57 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Sup, are you banking on Allison, McGing, Samuelsson being gone after this year?

I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I’ve witnessed bitter, entitled thinking parents over whole seasons at the pee wee and midget level but this is nuts.

(02-26-2019 01:20 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:50 PM)Sup Wrote:  I'm hearing at least 2 of the three being gone .

Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I’ve witnessed bitter, entitled thinking parents over whole seasons the pee wee and midget level but this is nuts.

Not at all Rassar. I don't expect nor did I expect my kid to get anything other than him getting a degree and getting a job after graduation. My kid has come and gone from the program for a bunch of years now. I can't speak for Sup, but I can say this... where there is smoke there is usually fire.

(02-26-2019 01:59 PM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 01:20 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:55 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  Allison and Samuelsson are the 2 then. Still very frustrating what could have been if Allison stayed healthy. He just doesn’t look the same out there. Hoping we can see the old Allison here late in the season but he’s just not lighting it up anymore.

This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I’ve witnessed bitter, entitled thinking parents over whole seasons the pee wee and midget level but this is nuts.

Not at all Rassar. I don't expect nor did I expect my kid to get anything other than him getting a degree and getting a job after graduation. My kid has come and gone from the program for a bunch of years now. I can't speak for Sup, but I can say this... where there is smoke there is usually fire.

You obviously have an axe to grind, posting this way while the team is in the hunt for an at large bid and is hosting the top ranked team this weekend. Great timing.

(02-26-2019 02:03 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 01:59 PM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 01:20 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  This is why I don’t see Allison going anywhere after this year. He’s growing back in a system he feels comfortable and is getting back in shape mentally.

Samuelson may leave... very possible... however this is the Andy Murray effect... NHL coaches trust his tutlage. Cry over his antics and pressure he puts on his kids but he’s getting kids to the NHL... if you can’t take the heat get out of Andy’s kitchen! Im happy with what’s happening here... we are finally forging a program that is built on preparing young athletes for pro status every year.

Sup states that guys are leaving the program because Andy is too hard on them... well that’s fine with me... Andy is preparing these guys for the harsh hockey reality that is in store if they really want to go pro. Cry me a river if they crap out and want a more soft hockey experience in college... make way for the guys that want to be NHL-ers! I for one hope we keep AM and pay him handsomely.

GO BRONCOS!!!

There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I’ve witnessed bitter, entitled thinking parents over whole seasons the pee wee and midget level but this is nuts.

Not at all Rassar. I don't expect nor did I expect my kid to get anything other than him getting a degree and getting a job after graduation. My kid has come and gone from the program for a bunch of years now. I can't speak for Sup, but I can say this... where there is smoke there is usually fire.

You obviously have an axe to grind, posting this way while the team is in the hunt for an at large bid and is hosting the top ranked team this weekend. Great timing.

It's a chat board, on a topic of should the coach be resigned or not. If this affects the teams play this weekend, that's pretty sad. I have no axe to grind. As I posted earlier, my kid is long gone from the program.

(02-26-2019 02:14 PM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 02:03 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 01:59 PM)DudeReally Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 01:20 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 09:29 AM)DudeReally Wrote:  There is a difference from being tough on the players and what Murray does. Sup knows, he has a kid on the team, I had one on the team a few years ago. Being hard and setting and managing expectations is one thing. I believe in that. That's the real world in hockey and any work environment. The mind games, the lying to the players, the lack of time off during the off season, these are the issues.

Mine is still involved in the game and every time he runs into someone, who is also involved in the game, that knows he played at WMU, they ask him how he survived.

While I have no first hand knowledge of the Allison situation, my belief is the kid is protecting himself so he can move on and sign his contract. 100's of players have had the same injury and they are right back out there. He's scared he's gonna re-injury himself, you can tell by his play.

I’ve witnessed bitter, entitled thinking parents over whole seasons the pee wee and midget level but this is nuts.

Not at all Rassar. I don't expect nor did I expect my kid to get anything other than him getting a degree and getting a job after graduation. My kid has come and gone from the program for a bunch of years now. I can't speak for Sup, but I can say this... where there is smoke there is usually fire.

You obviously have an axe to grind, posting this way while the team is in the hunt for an at large bid and is hosting the top ranked team this weekend. Great timing.

It's a chat board, on a topic of should the coach be resigned or not. If this affects the teams play this weekend, that's pretty sad. I have no axe to grind. As I posted earlier, my kid is long gone from the program.

You know this board gets traffic from a lot of lurkers and people take it way more seriously here than “just a chat board”, right wrong or otherwise. That changed a while back.

Hey DudeReally i can tell you by your comments , you 100 percent had a kid on the team . lol
As far as kids leaving i was thinking it was more M'Ging and Allison would be leaving and less but entirely possible Sammy as well . Could be one other as well , he had the chance to leave last year as well but came back .
As far as the Allison injury goes iv'e been told he has tendonitis in that knee and it ain't going away till summer . it limits him from even practicing if he plays on weekend so his conditioning is really poor . Was told the injury is healed but it is like trying to play tennis with tennis elbow was the way it was described to me .
Also i am not on here to trash A.M at all , he has built a good program i was simply stating i would like a younger more progressive coach given the choice , if you have a different opinion that's just fine by me , i was just stating mine .
Anyways GO BRONCOS GO

Good luck getting "Rasser" to critically examine any position he takes. He is all in on "AFM" and no opinion to the contrary has any credibility regardless of from where it comes.

Funny to see him virch about criticism during a playoff race. Didn't seem to mind trashing the FB team's accomplishments while they chased a NY6.. in a much more public forum than this.

(02-26-2019 05:34 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Good luck getting "Rasser" to critically examine any position he takes. He is all in on "AFM" and no opinion to the contrary has any credibility regardless of from where it comes.

Funny to see him virch about criticism during a playoff race. Didn't seem to mind trashing the FB team's accomplishments while they chased a NY6.. in a much more public forum than this.

That’s simply not even close to the truth. Still BITTER I see. He’s gone.

Local news is reporting there is an agreement in place for a new contract. He talked about it today at a presser when asked.

So what you’re saying Sup is that Allison is just playing it out and doesn’t really care much about what happens in the next month or so? Same with McGing?

I hope this team hasn’t packed it in. Guess we will see this weekend vs Saint Cloud

Murray should start blacker this weekend, I know he won’t because it’s senior weekend but why not? Gorsuch has been great all year yes but the last few weeks, he’s not looked good at all. I have a gut feeling Saint Cloud will light us up this weekend

Am I off my rocker saying to start blacker?

I see that there are some parents here who are upset about Andy's work ethic and expectations... and thats one thing...

However... Andy is trying to build an NHL pipeline and it is becoming evident... and he's trying to instill the work ethic and necessity into these guys wether they like it or do not... while also holding them accountable scholastically...

Guys that leave after two years will obviously be less inclined to give a rats ass about school... and guys that are looking for schooling are likely going to be pissed about the NHL level expectations in practice and on ice...

Andy has gotten himself in a situation where we either go full on NHL level talent and pipeline VS some guys who just want to play some good hockey and move on to take a WMU degree and live an awesome life... not hockey.

I think that the later is where we are seeing the issue with parents being upset.

Here's Andy's response to his question about being at WMU... could not be more excited.

https://twitter.com/MikeWWMT/status/1100462630559457280

(02-26-2019 07:13 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  So what you’re saying Sup is that Allison is just playing it out and doesn’t really care much about what happens in the next month or so? Same with McGing?

I hope this team hasn’t packed it in. Guess we will see this weekend vs Saint Cloud

No i don't think so , the boys get along really well from what iv'e heard . McGing is flying around out there and Allison looks like he is trying just is really limited in what he can do .
These lopsided losses are actually good for a team and if you watched the last game we were taking it to CC in the second and in the third bad turnovers and defensive mistakes were made and pucks just started going in , it happens .
Some of these guys could have turned pro already and came back to try to win a championship so i don't thick checking out this time of year will happen .

Hate to be a negative nancy, but I see this team going 1-3 in the last four games (Swept by SCSU and split with Miami). That will put us in a HUGE hole, needing to win the NCHC first round series and get to championship or win games in Minni to get in tournament.

I hope they prove me wrong.