(05-21-2019 12:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 11:00 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-18-2019 11:13 PM)grapes Wrote:  In my opinion the best stadium we have in our conference.
This is what Temple and USF need.

Not as familiar with USF’s situation but Temple couldn’t ask for a better situation now that their football program is just about at the Top of G5. No chance they get these 1 and 1’s with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma playing in a 35k seater.

If their trying to build a new stadium it’s likely because of a poor relationship with the Eagles or something of that nature.

But just on those series? Is the stadium disappearing? You are talking perhaps four games in a decade.

Houston uses the Texan's stadium just fine.

OCS generate way more revenue, are easier on logistics, show commitment, and create the atmosphere, experience, traditions, and connections the "front porch" is suppose to, bringing alumni and fans to the campus, in Temple's case it will also advertise their future vision for the program much the same way their basketball arena did.

I’m not going to argue they definitely shouldn’t pursue a OCS because I’m aware how fortunate Pitt is that the Rooney’s actually treat us as co-tenants and I’m aware Temple is not treated as such.

But what I do know is a OCS in North Philly would be a logistics nightmare and put the school in major debt based on the plan they released. Both reasons it was much maligned and honesty laughed at. Whereas the Linc is imo the most easily accessible stadium on the East Coast (been there upwards of 10 times), you don’t even have to go into Philly. It’s actually an unbelievably easily in and out and the tailgating is incredible. I’m not sure people would want to tailgate in North Philly. Temples campus is actually very nice now so probably an on campus thing.

I know the main problem with the Linc is that it’s 70k so obviously way too big for the average game and students don’t enter the stadium, instead staying outside tailgating all or most of the game. But I’m not sure students wouldn’t do the same even if the stadium was on campus.

It’s definitely an argument I’m sure goes on in the Temple fanbase but one thing I can add.

If the ACC ever extended them the invite in the future? As much of a long shot as that is, they’d want Temple playing at the Linc. That’s a lock.

(05-21-2019 02:29 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 12:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 11:00 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-18-2019 11:13 PM)grapes Wrote:  In my opinion the best stadium we have in our conference.
This is what Temple and USF need.

Not as familiar with USF’s situation but Temple couldn’t ask for a better situation now that their football program is just about at the Top of G5. No chance they get these 1 and 1’s with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma playing in a 35k seater.

If their trying to build a new stadium it’s likely because of a poor relationship with the Eagles or something of that nature.

But just on those series? Is the stadium disappearing? You are talking perhaps four games in a decade.

Houston uses the Texan's stadium just fine.

OCS generate way more revenue, are easier on logistics, show commitment, and create the atmosphere, experience, traditions, and connections the "front porch" is suppose to, bringing alumni and fans to the campus, in Temple's case it will also advertise their future vision for the program much the same way their basketball arena did.

I’m not going to argue they definitely shouldn’t pursue a OCS because I’m aware how fortunate Pitt is that the Rooney’s actually treat us as co-tenants and I’m aware Temple is not treated as such.

But what I do know is a OCS in North Philly would be a logistics nightmare and put the school in major debt based on the plan they released. Both reasons it was much maligned and honesty laughed at. Whereas the Linc is imo the most easily accessible stadium on the East Coast (been there upwards of 10 times), you don’t even have to go into Philly. It’s actually an unbelievably easily in and out and the tailgating is incredible. I’m not sure people would want to tailgate in North Philly. Temples campus is actually very nice now so probably an on campus thing.

I know the main problem with the Linc is that it’s 70k so obviously way too big for the average game and students don’t enter the stadium, instead staying outside tailgating all or most of the game. But I’m not sure students wouldn’t do the same even if the stadium was on campus.

It’s definitely an argument I’m sure goes on in the Temple fanbase but one thing I can add.

If the ACC ever extended them the invite in the future? As much of a long shot as that is, they’d want Temple playing at the Linc. That’s a lock.

Incorrect.

Their biggest is obstacle is the local neighborhood.

Most schools are downsizing stadiums because the amenities and experience are what drive ticket sales. That's why individual seating is overtaking bench seating. Endzone low end seats are being replaced by clubs and cabanas.

What's the distance and route by public transport from the Linc to Temple?

None of that address my paragraph about the purpose of athletics and the cementing of those relationships by getting alumni and local community on campus.

We need to start another thread though to carry this on.
ECU has a nice picture thread going here that is an awesome time lapse of the progress in a jewel of a stadium now.

(05-21-2019 05:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 02:29 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 12:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 11:00 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-18-2019 11:13 PM)grapes Wrote:  In my opinion the best stadium we have in our conference.
This is what Temple and USF need.

Not as familiar with USF’s situation but Temple couldn’t ask for a better situation now that their football program is just about at the Top of G5. No chance they get these 1 and 1’s with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma playing in a 35k seater.

If their trying to build a new stadium it’s likely because of a poor relationship with the Eagles or something of that nature.

But just on those series? Is the stadium disappearing? You are talking perhaps four games in a decade.

Houston uses the Texan's stadium just fine.

OCS generate way more revenue, are easier on logistics, show commitment, and create the atmosphere, experience, traditions, and connections the "front porch" is suppose to, bringing alumni and fans to the campus, in Temple's case it will also advertise their future vision for the program much the same way their basketball arena did.

I’m not going to argue they definitely shouldn’t pursue a OCS because I’m aware how fortunate Pitt is that the Rooney’s actually treat us as co-tenants and I’m aware Temple is not treated as such.

But what I do know is a OCS in North Philly would be a logistics nightmare and put the school in major debt based on the plan they released. Both reasons it was much maligned and honesty laughed at. Whereas the Linc is imo the most easily accessible stadium on the East Coast (been there upwards of 10 times), you don’t even have to go into Philly. It’s actually an unbelievably easily in and out and the tailgating is incredible. I’m not sure people would want to tailgate in North Philly. Temples campus is actually very nice now so probably an on campus thing.

I know the main problem with the Linc is that it’s 70k so obviously way too big for the average game and students don’t enter the stadium, instead staying outside tailgating all or most of the game. But I’m not sure students wouldn’t do the same even if the stadium was on campus.

It’s definitely an argument I’m sure goes on in the Temple fanbase but one thing I can add.

If the ACC ever extended them the invite in the future? As much of a long shot as that is, they’d want Temple playing at the Linc. That’s a lock.

Incorrect.

Their biggest is obstacle is the local neighborhood.

Most schools are downsizing stadiums because the amenities and experience are what drive ticket sales. That's why individual seating is overtaking bench seating. Endzone low end seats are being replaced by clubs and cabanas.

What's the distance and route by public transport from the Linc to Temple?

None of that address my paragraph about the purpose of athletics and the cementing of those relationships by getting alumni and local community on campus.

We need to start another thread though to carry this on.
ECU has a nice picture thread going here that is an awesome time lapse of the progress in a jewel of a stadium now.

That’s literally what I just said...in fact here is a link to a Temple post on their board today speak of the devil.

I don’t disagree with anything you said about the rah rah aspect of college. I’m with you there.

A stadium is the opposite of what the local community wants though so that’s just incorrect unless what you meant by getting the local community on campus was in a protest.

If anything Temple alumni prefer the Linc for its convenience and immenities since they don’t live in North philly anymore based on the multitude of posts on their board and its students already go to the games to tailgate but don’t go inside the stadium so I’m not sure a OCS changes that.

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Boa...132209268/

(05-21-2019 05:26 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 05:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 02:29 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 12:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 11:00 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  Not as familiar with USF’s situation but Temple couldn’t ask for a better situation now that their football program is just about at the Top of G5. No chance they get these 1 and 1’s with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma playing in a 35k seater.

If their trying to build a new stadium it’s likely because of a poor relationship with the Eagles or something of that nature.

But just on those series? Is the stadium disappearing? You are talking perhaps four games in a decade.

Houston uses the Texan's stadium just fine.

OCS generate way more revenue, are easier on logistics, show commitment, and create the atmosphere, experience, traditions, and connections the "front porch" is suppose to, bringing alumni and fans to the campus, in Temple's case it will also advertise their future vision for the program much the same way their basketball arena did.

I’m not going to argue they definitely shouldn’t pursue a OCS because I’m aware how fortunate Pitt is that the Rooney’s actually treat us as co-tenants and I’m aware Temple is not treated as such.

But what I do know is a OCS in North Philly would be a logistics nightmare and put the school in major debt based on the plan they released. Both reasons it was much maligned and honesty laughed at. Whereas the Linc is imo the most easily accessible stadium on the East Coast (been there upwards of 10 times), you don’t even have to go into Philly. It’s actually an unbelievably easily in and out and the tailgating is incredible. I’m not sure people would want to tailgate in North Philly. Temples campus is actually very nice now so probably an on campus thing.

I know the main problem with the Linc is that it’s 70k so obviously way too big for the average game and students don’t enter the stadium, instead staying outside tailgating all or most of the game. But I’m not sure students wouldn’t do the same even if the stadium was on campus.

It’s definitely an argument I’m sure goes on in the Temple fanbase but one thing I can add.

If the ACC ever extended them the invite in the future? As much of a long shot as that is, they’d want Temple playing at the Linc. That’s a lock.

Incorrect.

Their biggest is obstacle is the local neighborhood.

Most schools are downsizing stadiums because the amenities and experience are what drive ticket sales. That's why individual seating is overtaking bench seating. Endzone low end seats are being replaced by clubs and cabanas.

What's the distance and route by public transport from the Linc to Temple?

None of that address my paragraph about the purpose of athletics and the cementing of those relationships by getting alumni and local community on campus.

We need to start another thread though to carry this on.
ECU has a nice picture thread going here that is an awesome time lapse of the progress in a jewel of a stadium now.

That’s literally what I just said...in fact here is a link to a Temple post on their board today speak of the devil.

I don’t disagree with anything you said about the rah rah aspect of college. I’m with you there.

A stadium is the opposite of what the local community wants though so that’s just incorrect unless what you meant by getting the local community on campus was in a protest.

If anything Temple alumni prefer the Linc for its convenience and immenities since they don’t live in North philly anymore based on the multitude of posts on their board and its students already go to the games to tailgate but don’t go inside the stadium so I’m not sure a OCS changes that.

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Boa...132209268/

Except the point is to get the Alumni on campus. So they can see with their own eyes what the school is doing, what the school needs, to inspire pride and lead to giving.

The local community wants its handout. Have you never seen large cities build things before?

The community affected will naturally use their leverage to improve their situation. Building the stadium and working with the locals will only strengthen the community support.

If you want to keep going start a new thread this is way in left field now and won't come back for a while.

I'm curious (to my fellow ECU fans)... what did the stadium look like at your very first ECU home game?

Mine was my freshman year at ECU.

2002 vs Tulane. Peedee head at midfield... no end zone expansion.

(05-24-2019 08:52 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I'm curious (to my fellow ECU fans)... what did the stadium look like at your very first ECU home game?

Mine was my freshman year at ECU.

2002 vs Tulane. Peedee head at midfield... no end zone expansion.

1992, no upper deck, no Murphy Center, old yellow non digital antique scoreboard. Just the two sides of the “bowl” and the old double wide in the sky. But the place rocked.

(05-24-2019 01:06 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 08:52 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I'm curious (to my fellow ECU fans)... what did the stadium look like at your very first ECU home game?

Mine was my freshman year at ECU.

2002 vs Tulane. Peedee head at midfield... no end zone expansion.

1992, no upper deck, no Murphy Center, old yellow non digital antique scoreboard. Just the two sides of the “bowl” and the old double wide in the sky. But the place rocked.

And no brick and hedges at the bottom of the stands. The bottom of the stands were gold and draped with greek signs that had been spray painted on bed sheets.

Interview with Scott Lane, ECU’s Associate Athletic Director for Ticket Sales and Services.
Ticket office getting busy

Football capacity increasing slightly
Capacity at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium has been listed at 50,000 in recent years. There will be a little more seating available with the completion of the new structure on the South side of the football facility.

“It’s about the same,” Lane said. “We lost a few seats on the South side. I think it was going to be a net of about 125 seats that we lost on the South side. With the (TowneBank Tower), we’re going to gain some seats there. We’re going to end up gaining, all said and done, about 750 seats once we get the numbers in. I’m actually still kind of waiting to get the final drawing and everything so I can build it in my side from the contractor, but it looks like we’re going to be about 750 net gain on everything.”

Football season ticket sales climb
"Last year at our priority deadline, which was a month earlier last year, … we were at 9,700,” Lane said. “This year, we were over 12,000. Right now, we’re running about 2,500 ahead of last year, which is really good. Right now, we’re over 12,500 sold. Last year, we finished at 12,908. We won’t have any problem eclipsing that. We usually do from the deadline until the beginning of the season, you always do around 3,000 season tickets. If that holds up, hopefully, that will put us around that 16,000 range.”

There is a goal of 17,000 season tickets for football.

My first ECU home football game was on Sept 23 1989, the pirates where playing the redbirds of Illinois State and we won 56-10 that night. That was Bill Lewis first year and I think it was the first year of the new ECU helmet logo, I still to this day liked the Pirates written in cursive on the helmet the best and wish they would do a game with that old school helmet. Anyway there was nothing fancy about Ficklen that year, you had the Pirates written on both ends of the end zone in 3-d raise up form. You had the old school Peedee the pirate at the 50 and the old purple and gold digital scoreboard. Also you had the Greek sheets all over the bottom of the stadium.

I will say that to me back then and maybe because I was young but it seemed to be more of a good time back then. I mean to me I remember a time that you could tailgate early in the morning even the night before for visiting fans, I think my parents had some friends from Va Tech that same year stay the night in a RV and tailgated first thing that morning. I mean its fun now but it just seemed like a different Greenville, different experience back then plus it seemed and its not a knock to the league that we had better home games back then. But happy to see the improvements and the trailer in the sky being replaced. Also I was at the Southern Miss game where a fan attacked a ref, can't remember which year that was but that was a insane time and I fell in love with ECU at that moment.

(05-24-2019 01:10 PM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 01:06 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 08:52 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I'm curious (to my fellow ECU fans)... what did the stadium look like at your very first ECU home game?

Mine was my freshman year at ECU.

2002 vs Tulane. Peedee head at midfield... no end zone expansion.

1992, no upper deck, no Murphy Center, old yellow non digital antique scoreboard. Just the two sides of the “bowl” and the old double wide in the sky. But the place rocked.

And no brick and hedges at the bottom of the stands. The bottom of the stands were gold and draped with greek signs that had been spray painted on bed sheets.

Yes they were! Hell I’d completely forgotten that.

(05-24-2019 05:51 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 01:10 PM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 01:06 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(05-24-2019 08:52 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I'm curious (to my fellow ECU fans)... what did the stadium look like at your very first ECU home game?

Mine was my freshman year at ECU.

2002 vs Tulane. Peedee head at midfield... no end zone expansion.

1992, no upper deck, no Murphy Center, old yellow non digital antique scoreboard. Just the two sides of the “bowl” and the old double wide in the sky. But the place rocked.

And no brick and hedges at the bottom of the stands. The bottom of the stands were gold and draped with greek signs that had been spray painted on bed sheets.

Yes they were! Hell I’d completely forgotten that.

I remember that look. These are from ECU Digital Collections.





I was at the NC State game in 1999. Temporary bleachers were set up at both end zones and the attendance was just over 50,000. A drunk State fan hanging out near our tailgate said ECU would beat State, Mike O'Cain would be fired, and they would hire Steve Logan. ECU won 23-6, Mike O'Cain was fired, and we kept Logan.




I think the first game I went to was Miami in 1981. The seating capacity was about 35,000. It would have looked something like this 1978 photo.


FRICKLEN ?

(05-24-2019 01:32 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  Interview with Scott Lane, ECU’s Associate Athletic Director for Ticket Sales and Services.
Ticket office getting busy

Football capacity increasing slightly
Capacity at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium has been listed at 50,000 in recent years. There will be a little more seating available with the completion of the new structure on the South side of the football facility.

“It’s about the same,” Lane said. “We lost a few seats on the South side. I think it was going to be a net of about 125 seats that we lost on the South side. With the (TowneBank Tower), we’re going to gain some seats there. We’re going to end up gaining, all said and done, about 750 seats once we get the numbers in. I’m actually still kind of waiting to get the final drawing and everything so I can build it in my side from the contractor, but it looks like we’re going to be about 750 net gain on everything.”

Football season ticket sales climb
"Last year at our priority deadline, which was a month earlier last year, … we were at 9,700,” Lane said. “This year, we were over 12,000. Right now, we’re running about 2,500 ahead of last year, which is really good. Right now, we’re over 12,500 sold. Last year, we finished at 12,908. We won’t have any problem eclipsing that. We usually do from the deadline until the beginning of the season, you always do around 3,000 season tickets. If that holds up, hopefully, that will put us around that 16,000 range.”

There is a goal of 17,000 season tickets for football.

I don’t truly understand how they determine the capacity of the stadium but I do know that we had 51,082 for the UNC game in 2014 with another 750 additional seats we should be able to get close to 52,000 fans at a game if we get back on track especially with SC coming to town soon.

(05-21-2019 05:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 05:26 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 05:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 02:29 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 12:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But just on those series? Is the stadium disappearing? You are talking perhaps four games in a decade.

Houston uses the Texan's stadium just fine.

OCS generate way more revenue, are easier on logistics, show commitment, and create the atmosphere, experience, traditions, and connections the "front porch" is suppose to, bringing alumni and fans to the campus, in Temple's case it will also advertise their future vision for the program much the same way their basketball arena did.

I’m not going to argue they definitely shouldn’t pursue a OCS because I’m aware how fortunate Pitt is that the Rooney’s actually treat us as co-tenants and I’m aware Temple is not treated as such.

But what I do know is a OCS in North Philly would be a logistics nightmare and put the school in major debt based on the plan they released. Both reasons it was much maligned and honesty laughed at. Whereas the Linc is imo the most easily accessible stadium on the East Coast (been there upwards of 10 times), you don’t even have to go into Philly. It’s actually an unbelievably easily in and out and the tailgating is incredible. I’m not sure people would want to tailgate in North Philly. Temples campus is actually very nice now so probably an on campus thing.

I know the main problem with the Linc is that it’s 70k so obviously way too big for the average game and students don’t enter the stadium, instead staying outside tailgating all or most of the game. But I’m not sure students wouldn’t do the same even if the stadium was on campus.

It’s definitely an argument I’m sure goes on in the Temple fanbase but one thing I can add.

If the ACC ever extended them the invite in the future? As much of a long shot as that is, they’d want Temple playing at the Linc. That’s a lock.

Incorrect.

Their biggest is obstacle is the local neighborhood.

Most schools are downsizing stadiums because the amenities and experience are what drive ticket sales. That's why individual seating is overtaking bench seating. Endzone low end seats are being replaced by clubs and cabanas.

What's the distance and route by public transport from the Linc to Temple?

None of that address my paragraph about the purpose of athletics and the cementing of those relationships by getting alumni and local community on campus.

We need to start another thread though to carry this on.
ECU has a nice picture thread going here that is an awesome time lapse of the progress in a jewel of a stadium now.

That’s literally what I just said...in fact here is a link to a Temple post on their board today speak of the devil.

I don’t disagree with anything you said about the rah rah aspect of college. I’m with you there.

A stadium is the opposite of what the local community wants though so that’s just incorrect unless what you meant by getting the local community on campus was in a protest.

If anything Temple alumni prefer the Linc for its convenience and immenities since they don’t live in North philly anymore based on the multitude of posts on their board and its students already go to the games to tailgate but don’t go inside the stadium so I’m not sure a OCS changes that.

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Boa...132209268/

Except the point is to get the Alumni on campus. So they can see with their own eyes what the school is doing, what the school needs, to inspire pride and lead to giving.

The local community wants its handout. Have you never seen large cities build things before?

The community affected will naturally use their leverage to improve their situation. Building the stadium and working with the locals will only strengthen the community support.

If you want to keep going start a new thread this is way in left field now and won't come back for a while.

Correct as Alumni who stay engage and visit their Univ are much more likely to donate $$ and the #1 on-campus event that brings back the largest number of alumni is on-campus football games.

ECU's goals for next year:

Football: play for mediocrity....a .500 record would be massive
Basketball: PLEASE just suck less. A sub. 200 RPI would be fantastic


great add, Mr. Aresco....great add.

(05-27-2019 06:52 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ECU's goals for next year:

Football: play for mediocrity....a .500 record would be massive
Basketball: PLEASE just suck less. A sub. 200 RPI would be fantastic


great add, Mr. Aresco....great add.

Get some new material

(05-24-2019 02:04 PM)liquidshade Wrote:  My first ECU home football game was on Sept 23 1989, the pirates where playing the redbirds of Illinois State and we won 56-10 that night. That was Bill Lewis first year and I think it was the first year of the new ECU helmet logo, I still to this day liked the Pirates written in cursive on the helmet the best and wish they would do a game with that old school helmet. Anyway there was nothing fancy about Ficklen that year, you had the Pirates written on both ends of the end zone in 3-d raise up form. You had the old school Peedee the pirate at the 50 and the old purple and gold digital scoreboard. Also you had the Greek sheets all over the bottom of the stadium.

I will say that to me back then and maybe because I was young but it seemed to be more of a good time back then. I mean to me I remember a time that you could tailgate early in the morning even the night before for visiting fans, I think my parents had some friends from Va Tech that same year stay the night in a RV and tailgated first thing that morning. I mean its fun now but it just seemed like a different Greenville, different experience back then plus it seemed and its not a knock to the league that we had better home games back then. But happy to see the improvements and the trailer in the sky being replaced. Also I was at the Southern Miss game where a fan attacked a ref, can't remember which year that was but that was a insane time and I fell in love with ECU at that moment.

The referee called a penalty on Southern Miss’s forward lateral on a Hail Mary from their own 20 and ECU made the tackle to end the game; however, since he called a penalty on USM another play had to run from the spot of the foul and USM kicked a field goal to win it. Clearly an awful rule, and it changed either the next year or year after.

(05-27-2019 08:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 06:52 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ECU's goals for next year:

Football: play for mediocrity....a .500 record would be massive
Basketball: PLEASE just suck less. A sub. 200 RPI would be fantastic


great add, Mr. Aresco....great add.

Get some new material

I thought this schtick still had some legs...no?

(05-27-2019 08:45 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 08:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 06:52 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ECU's goals for next year:

Football: play for mediocrity....a .500 record would be massive
Basketball: PLEASE just suck less. A sub. 200 RPI would be fantastic


great add, Mr. Aresco....great add.

Get some new material

I thought this schtick still had some legs...no?

Daft, just daft. Nice try though.

Taken 7/8

Ribbon cutting and tour of the stadium project today. But what's different from the ground breaking on Jan. 11, 2018?

Head Football Coach, Scottie Montgomery
Board of Trustees Chairman, Kieran Shanahan
Chancellor, Cecil Staton
Athletic Director, Jeff Compher