(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:08 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 07:54 PM)tigertrails Wrote:  Yeah, we both live in reality and don't look at things through blue colored glasses. In other words, we're not homers like 95% of the posters around here.

Well, it IS. a Tiger fan message board.......

Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

(02-03-2019 06:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:08 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Well, it IS. a Tiger fan message board.......

Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

All good points for sure, Ned. But you’re wasting your time.

(02-02-2019 04:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Penny is a disappointment in his first season.

Losing the seniors from the team will hurt more than the incoming freshmen can help.

You mean the same seniors that continue to miss easy layups, throw the ball away, take bad shots, play erratically, and have defensive lapses?

This season was always going to be a "whatever" season with all the Tubby leftovers. The road issues are a worry, but if we are having the same issues this time next year with the talent upgrade, then I'll be concerned.

Personally, I will be enjoy the rest of this season, be glad when the season is over, and we can turn the page to Penny's "1st" true season.

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:08 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 07:54 PM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 06:48 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 04:58 PM)450bench Wrote:  

He and Tigertrails need to form a club and hang out together.

Yeah, we both live in reality and don't look at things through blue colored glasses. In other words, we're not homers like 95% of the posters around here.

Well, it IS. a Tiger fan message board.......

Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

I think if you're -35, you might be doing it wrong.

(02-02-2019 04:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Penny is a disappointment in his first season.

Losing the seniors from the team will hurt more than the incoming freshmen can help.

Sounds like your expectations were unrealistic.

This is exactly what I expected this year. We don't have a lot of talent and have huge roster holes.

(02-03-2019 07:46 AM)cvilletiger Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:08 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 07:54 PM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 06:48 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  He and Tigertrails need to form a club and hang out together.

Yeah, we both live in reality and don't look at things through blue colored glasses. In other words, we're not homers like 95% of the posters around here.

Well, it IS. a Tiger fan message board.......

Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

I think if you're -35, you might be doing it wrong.

Best post ^ of the thread.

He could easily be -50 something in another week. I’m curious to see how deep in the red he will go.

(02-03-2019 07:55 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 04:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Penny is a disappointment in his first season.

Losing the seniors from the team will hurt more than the incoming freshmen can help.

Sounds like your expectations were unrealistic.

This is exactly what I expected this year. We don't have a lot of talent and have huge roster holes.

I'm glad you're not our coach then. Penny obviously sees more potential in this roster than you do if he thinks we can play with ANY team in the country.

And we’re off.

Note, it started at 8:15.

Great assessment.

Throw in Kyree Walker as another possibilitg.

Very worried that Penny is trying to build a "Kentucky" type system that is dependent on 5 star talent making plays. Might work next year if Wiseman pulls his targets in. But what about going forward? Can he change it up?

(02-03-2019 06:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:08 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Well, it IS. a Tiger fan message board.......

Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

Not sure where you get that I was a Tubby supporter. I just stated his recruits weren't as bad as folks imply. I also have stated that he should've never been hired in the first place and we lost the Lawsons because of it. Had Penny been hired after the Austin Nichols transfer season we'd have both Lawsons (without Keelon) along with Chandler next season and Johnathan down the road. Penny was hired 4 years too late. He should already be in year 4 of his tenure but is now playing catchup due to the administration's poor decision making in choosing coaches.

(02-02-2019 06:40 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  Reasonable assessment. IMHO great job by Penny coaching us back in the game. I'm sure he learned something. The players learned they have to listen to him.

Penny will be fine, we'll be fine, the players will be fine.

We fight like tigers.

Yes Penny put them in the press but all the credit goes to Martin for getting us back into that game.

(02-03-2019 09:31 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:17 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  Ok so you're saying it has to be 100% pro Tigers and no criticism? If that's the case Pastner would still be the head coach. Fans should be able to express their concerns and opinions of the program, whether good or bad. Yawl are way too touchy and takes things too personal.

Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

Not sure where you get that I was a Tubby supporter. I just stated his recruits weren't as bad as folks imply. I also have stated that he should've never been hired in the first place and we lost the Lawsons because of it. Had Penny been hired after the Austin Nichols transfer season we'd have both Lawsons (without Keelon) along with Chandler next season and Johnathan down the road. Penny was hired 4 years too late. He should already be in year 4 of his tenure but is now playing catchup due to the administration's poor decision making in choosing coaches.

Penny still could of had Chandler next season but didn't want him.

(02-03-2019 09:41 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:31 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

Not sure where you get that I was a Tubby supporter. I just stated his recruits weren't as bad as folks imply. I also have stated that he should've never been hired in the first place and we lost the Lawsons because of it. Had Penny been hired after the Austin Nichols transfer season we'd have both Lawsons (without Keelon) along with Chandler next season and Johnathan down the road. Penny was hired 4 years too late. He should already be in year 4 of his tenure but is now playing catchup due to the administration's poor decision making in choosing coaches.

Penny still could of had Chandler next season but didn't want him.

This ^

Penny has been a slam dunk this season. Look at the stands at home games. He has growing pains, he's never coached at this level, and he inherited an iffy roster. All the closet UT fans need to go over to the UT board.

(02-03-2019 09:51 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Penny has been a slam dunk this season. Look at the stands at home games. He has growing pains, he's never coached at this level, and he inherited an iffy roster. All the closet UT fans need to go over to the UT board.

Idk about the UT fans, but the rest of your post was spot on. Penny a disappointment? That's crazy talk. He's a different personality, and fans aren't used to watching someone like him work the sideline. He's learning, too.
I trust his judgement, I think he's smart and knows what he wants to do. Get some more parts and we'll see what happens.

Penny will be fine. His only problem this season is hes trying to play his style with a roster that isn't built for that and hes reluctant to adjust to what he does have.
Size matters. So does athleticism. One can help hide the other but when you lack both that's a problem.
Next year that changes.

Recruits we lost since the Nichols transfer. All these guys would probably be on the Memphis roster had Penny been hired in 2015 when he should've been:

2015 Skal Labissiere C, Lagerald Vick G

2016 Jaylen Fisher G

2017 PJ Washington F, Khalil Garland G, John Petty G, Isaiah Stokes F, Parker Stewart G

2018 Carte'Are Gordon F

2019 Chandler Lawson F

Penny should be in year 4 right now and building momentum as a seasoned head coach. Rudd and Bowen screwed up and now Penny is only in year 1 learning on the job when he could've got his growing pains out of the way in 2015-16. Next yr would've been a National Championship type season in year 5 if he was hired after the Nichols fiasco. Now our ceiling is probably a Sweet 16 at best given his lack of experience.

(02-03-2019 09:41 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:31 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 02:27 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 12:40 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Your opinion has been duly noted.

Whether we win or lose, your opinion never changes.

And it has been duly noted by all who read this homer board.

What more do you want from us, non-homer? lol

I give the team credit for winning at home. I've mentioned countless times that we will not lose another game at home this season, including the AAC tourney. But I refuse to sugar coat things when we start a game behind 27-1 to an average team that was picked to finish last in the conference. Is that acceptable to you?

at this point in the season what does someone's predicted finish have to do with anything? It is useless information unless you have an agenda to bash our team and first year coach. and what does " acceptable" have to do with anything either? Do you think The reason we lost today is that the fans "accepted" it? If only we would not "accept" losing to Usf on the road it would not happen?


btw that same Usf team blew out your crush Tubby Smith's led squad last year in our home arena.

Not sure where you get that I was a Tubby supporter. I just stated his recruits weren't as bad as folks imply. I also have stated that he should've never been hired in the first place and we lost the Lawsons because of it. Had Penny been hired after the Austin Nichols transfer season we'd have both Lawsons (without Keelon) along with Chandler next season and Johnathan down the road. Penny was hired 4 years too late. He should already be in year 4 of his tenure but is now playing catchup due to the administration's poor decision making in choosing coaches.

Penny still could of had Chandler next season but didn't want him.

I disagree that Penny didn't want him as a player. He steered away from him only because he wants to move on from the Keelon mess/distraction that was created by Tubby and Josh. Had Penny been hired in 2015 none of this would even be an issue with the Lawson family.

(02-03-2019 09:15 AM)tigertrails Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 07:55 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 04:01 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Penny is a disappointment in his first season.

Losing the seniors from the team will hurt more than the incoming freshmen can help.

Sounds like your expectations were unrealistic.

This is exactly what I expected this year. We don't have a lot of talent and have huge roster holes.

I'm glad you're not our coach then. Penny obviously sees more potential in this roster than you do if he thinks we can play with ANY team in the country.

No wonder you are 32 under in rep

One clown comment after another.

(02-03-2019 10:11 AM)Hoots Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:51 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Penny has been a slam dunk this season. Look at the stands at home games. He has growing pains, he's never coached at this level, and he inherited an iffy roster. All the closet UT fans need to go over to the UT board.

Idk about the UT fans, but the rest of your post was spot on. Penny a disappointment? That's crazy talk. He's a different personality, and fans aren't used to watching someone like him work the sideline. He's learning, too.
I trust his judgement, I think he's smart and knows what he wants to do. Get some more parts and we'll see what happens.

Exactly! He's just now learning on the job when he should already been in year 4 had Rudd/Bowen not screwed up the hire. He could've been a seasoned vet by now if not for their incompetence.