A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

(01-28-2019 09:37 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

ESPN is trying to devalue the conference ahead of television talks... plane and simple... get the content dirt cheap again by making the AAC sound like lesser conferences, when they know damn well, the ratings and the scores don't reflect that.

(01-28-2019 09:49 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:37 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

(01-28-2019 12:45 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  ESPN is trying to devalue the conference ahead of television talks... plane and simple... get the content dirt cheap again by making the AAC sound like lesser conferences, when they know damn well, the ratings and the scores don't reflect that.

$8-$12 million/team is still better than the current amount and every indication is this will be the case. Its not P5 money but at least it is firmly P6.

(01-28-2019 01:08 PM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:49 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:37 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

Nothing personal, but you ECU fans are so backwards and mid-majorish. Get your ish together and the rest will work itself out, in both money sports. Basketball is the one sport that this conference can compete in objectively. Some of us have been spending and producing results for years. Catch up or go on back to the Walmart,,,err I mean the conference USA. you happen to be in a conference with teams that are legitimately bigtime.

(01-29-2019 01:01 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:08 PM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:49 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:37 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

Nothing personal, but you ECU fans are so backwards and mid-majorish. Get your ish together and the rest will work itself out, in both money sports. Basketball is the one sport that this conference can compete in objectively. Some of us have been spending and producing results for years. Catch up or go on back to the Walmart,,,err I mean the conference USA. you happen to be in a conference with teams that are legitimately bigtime.

We can THINK what we want but that does not change the media calling us Mid Major and G5. Am I missing something? End of the day, I am all for the P6 and respect and beating teams in the cartel conferences. Last question: Are you saying your team has caught up and is not being called a mid major? If so, glad to be in a conference with you.

(01-29-2019 10:27 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 01:01 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:08 PM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:49 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:37 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  A Class Action Lawsuit is the only way to force real change but it will never happen. We are getting just enough welfare to ride the line. Go American!

A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

Nothing personal, but you ECU fans are so backwards and mid-majorish. Get your ish together and the rest will work itself out, in both money sports. Basketball is the one sport that this conference can compete in objectively. Some of us have been spending and producing results for years. Catch up or go on back to the Walmart,,,err I mean the conference USA. you happen to be in a conference with teams that are legitimately bigtime.

We can THINK what we want but that does not change the media calling us Mid Major and G5. Am I missing something? End of the day, I am all for the P6 and respect and beating teams in the cartel conferences. Last question: Are you saying your team has caught up and is not being called a mid major? If so, glad to be in a conference with you.

The only reason this conference isn't considered major is because 2 of our top programs have been dormant and our bottom two programs haven't even performed at a mid-major level. 3 of those 4 programs seem to be getting their **** together (Memphis, UConn, and ECU). That will elevate us to major status for basketball.

(01-29-2019 11:05 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 10:27 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 01:01 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:08 PM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 09:49 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  A class action lawsuit against what exactly? ESPN can say whatever they want against AAC basketball. In basketball winning is e everything, JUST WIN. Mid-major conferences aren't stacked full of teams with E8 and FF and national championship participants. Nor do they have teams that are producing top10 recruiting classes. The AAC is objectively a power conference that's been in a slump due to some poor coaching hires and a few bad tournament breaks. Heck I remember when Memphis literally demolished every team we played in the NCAA tournament on the way to the CCG and ESPN talking heads including Dick Vitale were in full blown red alert flame throwing mode against us. Winning is the reality.

Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

Nothing personal, but you ECU fans are so backwards and mid-majorish. Get your ish together and the rest will work itself out, in both money sports. Basketball is the one sport that this conference can compete in objectively. Some of us have been spending and producing results for years. Catch up or go on back to the Walmart,,,err I mean the conference USA. you happen to be in a conference with teams that are legitimately bigtime.

We can THINK what we want but that does not change the media calling us Mid Major and G5. Am I missing something? End of the day, I am all for the P6 and respect and beating teams in the cartel conferences. Last question: Are you saying your team has caught up and is not being called a mid major? If so, glad to be in a conference with you.

The only reason this conference isn't considered major is because 2 of our top programs have been dormant and our bottom two programs haven't even performed at a mid-major level. 3 of those 4 programs seem to be getting their **** together (Memphis, UConn, and ECU). That will elevate us to major status for basketball.

BINGO!!!!

(01-29-2019 11:14 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 11:05 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 10:27 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 01:01 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:08 PM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  Winning is awesome. Just too bad we dont have the same budgets as the cartel schools. I was actually referring to the "labels". It promotes superiority of one class over another plain and simple. We can pretend in the American we are like all the other powers but at the end of the day, we are not in the country club, win or lose.

Nothing personal, but you ECU fans are so backwards and mid-majorish. Get your ish together and the rest will work itself out, in both money sports. Basketball is the one sport that this conference can compete in objectively. Some of us have been spending and producing results for years. Catch up or go on back to the Walmart,,,err I mean the conference USA. you happen to be in a conference with teams that are legitimately bigtime.

We can THINK what we want but that does not change the media calling us Mid Major and G5. Am I missing something? End of the day, I am all for the P6 and respect and beating teams in the cartel conferences. Last question: Are you saying your team has caught up and is not being called a mid major? If so, glad to be in a conference with you.

The only reason this conference isn't considered major is because 2 of our top programs have been dormant and our bottom two programs haven't even performed at a mid-major level. 3 of those 4 programs seem to be getting their **** together (Memphis, UConn, and ECU). That will elevate us to major status for basketball.

BINGO!!!!

There’s a site that shows all the AP ballots. Might even be the official AP site. If you pay attention, biases with voters become very obvious. I still remember the names on my **** list of voters who would undervalue WSU year after year.

(01-29-2019 01:50 PM)AndShock Wrote:  There’s a site that shows all the AP ballots. Might even be the official AP site. If you pay attention, biases with voters become very obvious. I still remember the names on my **** list of voters who would undervalue WSU year after year.

Last week there were two voters that had UH (18-1 at the time) unranked: Jesse Newell and Jeff Call.

According to their bios, Newell covers KU for the KC Star, and Call covers BYU for the SLC Deseret News.

FWIW, this week Call moved the Coogs up from NR to #13. Obviously highly impressed with our victories over ECU and Tulsa. Or he just wasn't paying attention.

Newell moved the Coogs up from NR to #19.

(01-29-2019 05:20 PM)TheOrigamiJimmyChin Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 01:50 PM)AndShock Wrote:  There’s a site that shows all the AP ballots. Might even be the official AP site. If you pay attention, biases with voters become very obvious. I still remember the names on my **** list of voters who would undervalue WSU year after year.

Last week there were two voters that had UH (18-1 at the time) unranked: Jesse Newell and Jeff Call.

According to their bios, Newell covers KU for the KC Star, and Call covers BYU for the SLC Deseret News.

FWIW, this week Call moved the Coogs up from NR to #13. Obviously highly impressed with our victories over ECU and Tulsa. Or he just wasn't paying attention.

Newell moved the Coogs up from NR to #19.

That's what I figure it mostly is, voters not able to pay enough attention. Which, for a layman you could definitely accept, but not when this is something you base your career off of.

(01-29-2019 05:50 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 05:20 PM)TheOrigamiJimmyChin Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 01:50 PM)AndShock Wrote:  There’s a site that shows all the AP ballots. Might even be the official AP site. If you pay attention, biases with voters become very obvious. I still remember the names on my **** list of voters who would undervalue WSU year after year.

Last week there were two voters that had UH (18-1 at the time) unranked: Jesse Newell and Jeff Call.

According to their bios, Newell covers KU for the KC Star, and Call covers BYU for the SLC Deseret News.

FWIW, this week Call moved the Coogs up from NR to #13. Obviously highly impressed with our victories over ECU and Tulsa. Or he just wasn't paying attention.

Newell moved the Coogs up from NR to #19.

That's what I figure it mostly is, voters not able to pay enough attention. Which, for a layman you could definitely accept, but not when this is something you base your career off of.

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