(01-01-2019 02:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I’m fine with the streak ending, if only because people might finally quit pretending our win over them was a big deal

Well any bowl win for us is a big deal. Just make sure you put it down.

I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

They lost by 8 without their all world quarterback to a team that lost by 20 to Georgia.

People need to understand that they’re not just a G5 team. They’re damn good.


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(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How good was there game atmosphere when they were losing? As with about everywhere, winning makes things a great deal more appealing and fun.

(01-01-2019 10:46 AM)Scrotumus Wrote:  After the Notre Dame debacle? We should all be rooting for UCF- who will be starting the #2 RS FR QB) to defeat a LSU team that was in the top 5 for a good portion of the season.

The more chaos in the selection process (which shows the outright hypocrisy of it all), the better.

Gonna be a fun matchup... UCF's running attack is waaaaaaay underrated. It will be interesting to see if they can run it on LSU the way they have everybody else this year.

Some have said that the results of the Semifinal hurt the case for CFP Expansion, however I lean the other direction. Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan, and UCF (probably would have won WITH Milton) would have been competitive in the playoff. Georgia played uninspired football outside of the playoff, again. Michigan did the same.

Football is a game of match-ups and as Kelly said, there wasn't a talent disparity with Notre Dame and Clemson but a tactical disparity. UGA showed what he meant when they were destroyed by Auburn in the regular season and then went on to win in the SEC Championship game. Sometimes the issue is the game plan and I feel that's what happened with Notre Dame.

(01-02-2019 10:00 AM)BuzzLightyear Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How good was there game atmosphere when they were losing? As with about everywhere, winning makes things a great deal more appealing and fun.

NY6 win to a winless season is a hard pill to swallow. They hire Frost and he takes them to new heights. Hue pal keeps it going. That place is crazy on game day.

Cajun Field was an awesome place for a game in Hudspeth’s first two years, but I’m telling you UCF is a different animal.

(01-03-2019 08:37 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:00 AM)BuzzLightyear Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How good was there game atmosphere when they were losing? As with about everywhere, winning makes things a great deal more appealing and fun.

NY6 win to a winless season is a hard pill to swallow. They hire Frost and he takes them to new heights. Hue pal keeps it going. That place is crazy on game day.

Cajun Field was an awesome place for a game in Hudspeth’s first two years, but I’m telling you UCF is a different animal.

I take nothing away from UCF, and give them all the credit in the world for their past two seasons. But, UCF is NOT week in and week out P5 good. And they were not Top 4 in the country this past season.

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How was it genius? What leverage does Directional UCF have over a State Flagship School in scheduling a 1-1-1 series?

(01-03-2019 10:22 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 08:37 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:00 AM)BuzzLightyear Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How good was there game atmosphere when they were losing? As with about everywhere, winning makes things a great deal more appealing and fun.

NY6 win to a winless season is a hard pill to swallow. They hire Frost and he takes them to new heights. Hue pal keeps it going. That place is crazy on game day.

Cajun Field was an awesome place for a game in Hudspeth’s first two years, but I’m telling you UCF is a different animal.

I take nothing away from UCF, and give them all the credit in the world for their past two seasons. But, UCF is NOT week in and week out P5 good. And they were not Top 4 in the country this past season.

With Milton, they may have been Top 4 good. Teams with generational QB's for their program can make all the difference and the difference between 1st and 2nd QB's has become more pronounced than in the past due to the restrictive hours of practice.

(01-03-2019 11:58 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 10:22 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 08:37 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:00 AM)BuzzLightyear Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How good was there game atmosphere when they were losing? As with about everywhere, winning makes things a great deal more appealing and fun.

NY6 win to a winless season is a hard pill to swallow. They hire Frost and he takes them to new heights. Hue pal keeps it going. That place is crazy on game day.

Cajun Field was an awesome place for a game in Hudspeth’s first two years, but I’m telling you UCF is a different animal.

I take nothing away from UCF, and give them all the credit in the world for their past two seasons. But, UCF is NOT week in and week out P5 good. And they were not Top 4 in the country this past season.

With Milton, they may have been Top 4 good. Teams with generational QB's for their program can make all the difference and the difference between 1st and 2nd QB's has become more pronounced than in the past due to the restrictive hours of practice.

QB good, check . .
But I also saw their O and D lines . . against the occasional P5 ok
But against P5 O and D lines over 12 weeks . . . sorry, they wouldn’t hold up.

How come UCF doesn’t get to use the “doesn’t want to be there” excuse? They would be the only team able to use that credibly. Two years going undefeated, and still no playoffs.

(01-04-2019 02:09 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  How come UCF doesn’t get to use the “doesn’t want to be there” excuse? They would be the only team able to use that credibly. Two years going undefeated, and still no playoffs.

Because you're a G5 team that has the chance to prove you belong and not a P5 with nothing to prove?

It's a BS excuse for any team to use. If you're playing in a NY6 game you have something to prove against another big time ranked team. I don't care if you're Georgia (vs. Texas this year), Auburn (vs. UCF last year), or anyone else. Using that is an absolute cop-out for any team to use as an excuse for getting your ass beat.

(01-03-2019 11:48 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 08:55 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 07:37 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 06:52 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-01-2019 03:07 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping for a convincing UCF loss, so we quit hearing about their bogus nat champ and that win over an uninterested Auburn team. But we are still going to hear about UCF missing starting qb, LSU is without 4 starters. LSU is the 4th best SEC team this year. I bet UCF couldn't win the SEC East, they would be beat up bad by the end of the season.

Hey bro, it's not a "bogus" national champion claim. The CFP-P5 cartel crowns their champ and the NCAA separately crowns their champ. UCF won the NCAA's national championship banner last year, fair and square via their criteria, i.e., the Colley Matrix.

I respectfully disagree. Since the BCS the champion is decided on the field. UCF should have took Florida up on the schedule. They need to play a better schedule, like Houston did years ago. Also they could have played Alabama to open the season when kickoff bowl offered to buyout Louisville and whoever UCF opened up with, but they turned it down. UCF couldn't win 10 games in SEC or beat out Clemson in ACC. UCF Oline could not stop LSU Pressure even with them missing 8 starters on defense.

You do realize that there are only 2 rosters in college football that are more talented than LSU right?

UCF would have finished 2nd or 3rd in the SEC East. With their only loss being UGA. They would have beaten Vandy, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, and Missouri. Toss ups would be Florida, Texas A&M. Likely losses LSU, UGA and Bama. Especially with a healthy Milton.

UCF wanted a home and home plus neutral site game with Florida and they balked at that proposal. So their AD did something to keep their brand in the spotlight. He threw shade at the Gators by saying top 10 teams don’t do 2 for 1’s. It was genius.

They have the best in game atmosphere in the G5 by far. Them and Houston will be the next two P5 programs.

How was it genius? What leverage does Directional UCF have over a State Flagship School in scheduling a 1-1-1 series?

UCF is fighting for legitimacy. Accepting a 2 for 1 discredits the program and still puts them in the same light as the rest of the G5. Clearly UCF, Houston and Memphis are on a different level than all other G5 programs. They have huge money backers.

If UCF would have been able to pull of a 1 & 1 plus neutral site with UF then it would give them a little more credibility.

I agree. Of course everyone on ESPN will tell you UCF is wrong for not taking that 2 for 1. But everyone on ESPN will always take the side of the SEC school over the G5 school.

Why should UCF have to take a 2 for 1? They've been just as good as Florida the last few years and ranked higher most (if not all) of the past two years. The media think UCF should "know their place" and have to do things on Florida's terms. **** that.

They have home and homes set up with Stanford, Pitt, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Louisville in the coming years. I understand at this point they have to work harder to strengthen their non-conference schedule, but they can get plenty of P5 home and homes without having to screw their schedule up to do it while admitting Florida is "above them" by taking that deal.

(01-05-2019 11:32 AM)_x_ Wrote:  I agree. Of course everyone on ESPN will tell you UCF is wrong for not taking that 2 for 1. But everyone on ESPN will always take the side of the SEC school over the G5 school.

Why should UCF have to take a 2 for 1? They've been just as good as Florida the last few years and ranked higher most (if not all) of the past two years. The media think UCF should "know their place" and have to do things on Florida's terms. **** that.

They have home and homes set up with Stanford, Pitt, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Louisville in the coming years. I understand at this point they have to work harder to strengthen their non-conference schedule, but they can get plenty of P5 home and homes without having to screw their schedule up to do it while admitting Florida is "above them" by taking that deal.

I went to the App NC State game when Armanti was a freshman and tailgated with a bunch of NC State friends. One guy was going on about how ECU should "know their place" like NC State was somehow superior.. It frosted me then and still frosts me now. I pulled for UCF and firmly believe if that D lineman doesn't get the Unsportsmanlike after forcing LSU to punt, that game is completely different. LSU was in trouble and got bailed out and changed to complexion of the game.

I still don't get that call. I guess you can spike the ball after a TD, but not after a 3rd down sack?