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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
(02-24-2019 10:53 AM)djnva Wrote:  Any chance all the VCU stuff can get it's own thread and this can revert to a bracketolgy thread?

Yeah really don’t give a damn about VCU.
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(02-24-2019 11:39 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(02-24-2019 10:53 AM)djnva Wrote:  Any chance all the VCU stuff can get it's own thread and this can revert to a bracketolgy thread?

Yeah really don’t give a damn about VCU.

Done.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Projected 7 teams from VA in- Virginia Tech, VCU, ODU, UVA, Norfolk St, Liberty, Radford

Would that be a record?
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
(02-25-2019 12:01 AM)dhart020 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Projected 7 teams from VA in- Virginia Tech, VCU, ODU, UVA, Norfolk St, Liberty, Radford

Would that be a record?

Probably. Could even be as high as nine if JMU or W&M and VMI pulled shock run in their respective conference tournaments, though it's just as likely that NSU/Liberty/Radford blow it in their tournaments. It helps that there's eight D-1 conferences with Virginia schools (ACC, A10, CUSA, CAA, Big South, Atlantic Sun, MEAC, Southern), which has to be a record.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
(02-25-2019 12:01 AM)dhart020 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Projected 7 teams from VA in- Virginia Tech, VCU, ODU, UVA, Norfolk St, Liberty, Radford

Would that be a record?

Teel was talking about this a few weeks back.

Quote:Seven is the magic number. Set by California in 2002 and matched by Texas in 2010, that’s the record for teams from one state making the NCAA men’s basketball tournament.

https://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt...story.html
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
We got two votes in the AP poll.
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(02-25-2019 11:17 AM)ODU Hugh Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 12:01 AM)dhart020 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Projected 7 teams from VA in- Virginia Tech, VCU, ODU, UVA, Norfolk St, Liberty, Radford

Would that be a record?

Teel was talking about this a few weeks back.

Quote:Seven is the magic number. Set by California in 2002 and matched by Texas in 2010, that’s the record for teams from one state making the NCAA men’s basketball tournament.

https://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt...story.html

You expect that from two of the most populated states in the union. But if the Commonwealth pulled this off, it would be pretty remarkable.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Feb. 26

4 Wisconsin vs 13 Old Dominion
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(02-26-2019 08:07 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Feb. 26

4 Wisconsin vs 13 Old Dominion

Moved off the 14 line to the 13 line.

Good to see Oklahoma as a 10 seed with that 5-10 conference record.03-banghead03-banghead
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
This is interesting to me.

I attached a screen clip of the latest nitty gritty and cleaned it up a bit (the NCAA must hire Excel n00bs) and I highlighted Liberty because it's curious.

They're 65 with less wins, 1 more Q1 game, but same W total, 1 more Q2 but 1 more loss, much less Q3 wins and more Q4 but we have 1 Q4 loss. They're SOS is 301, ours 244. Avg opp rank is 221 and ours is 186.

They're 10 spots higher and I guess the NET puts a decent amount of emphasis on wins > 10 points and opp resume.


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(02-26-2019 08:18 AM)The Flagship Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 08:07 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Feb. 26

4 Wisconsin vs 13 Old Dominion

Moved off the 14 line to the 13 line.

Good to see Oklahoma as a 10 seed with that 5-10 conference record.03-banghead03-banghead

For comparison sake.


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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
You get credit (a lot of it) for playing Q1 teams, even if you lose. You get dinged for playing Q4 even if you win.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
Oh, and https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Sit.../Home.aspx

That's the sharepoint list that it looks like the NCAA maintains.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
Andy Katz said it last night that the NCAA Net ignores the conference record, which he viewed as a mistake. I don't care what OK's Net rank is, all their conference tells you is that they get beat twice as much as they win. Pitiful for an at large team. It doesn't take a great deal of talent to get beat.
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(02-26-2019 11:00 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  Andy Katz said it last night that the NCAA Net ignores the conference record, which he viewed as a mistake. I don't care what OK's Net rank is, all their conference tells you is that they get beat twice as much as they win. Pitiful for an at large team. It doesn't take a great deal of talent to get beat.
How is that possible if our net keeps moving up if it ignores conf record? Or does that statement mean it's just a total body of work metric?
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(02-26-2019 12:25 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 11:00 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  Andy Katz said it last night that the NCAA Net ignores the conference record, which he viewed as a mistake. I don't care what OK's Net rank is, all their conference tells you is that they get beat twice as much as they win. Pitiful for an at large team. It doesn't take a great deal of talent to get beat.
How is that possible if our net keeps moving up if it ignores conf record? Or does that statement mean it's just a total body of work metric?

To me - it basically says if you play the good teams you are rewarded regardless if you win or lose. P5 conferences automatically get to the play better teams, more often, because of their conference schedule.
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(02-26-2019 12:30 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 12:25 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 11:00 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  Andy Katz said it last night that the NCAA Net ignores the conference record, which he viewed as a mistake. I don't care what OK's Net rank is, all their conference tells you is that they get beat twice as much as they win. Pitiful for an at large team. It doesn't take a great deal of talent to get beat.
How is that possible if our net keeps moving up if it ignores conf record? Or does that statement mean it's just a total body of work metric?

To me - it basically says if you play the good teams you are rewarded regardless if you win or lose. P5 conferences automatically get to the play better teams, more often, because of their conference schedule.
That's what makes the most sense to explain it. Like according to katz its better to play 5 P5 teams and lose to 4 than to play 2 P5 and lose to 1.

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But, when you play weak teams, your net efficiency is better so it's a bit of a tradeoff. Also, margin of victory comes into play so you need to be competitive with the good teams, not just show up and get blown out.
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(02-26-2019 12:41 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  But, when you play weak teams, your net efficiency is better so it's a bit of a tradeoff. Also, margin of victory comes into play so you need to be competitive with the good teams, not just show up and get blown out.

And you cant take your foot off the gas when you're blowing teams out either. There were a few times where I thought JJ should have kept the team firing at the end to boost the margin of victory over ten just to help the NET.
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RE: 2018-19 Bracketology thread
March 5 - http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

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