(12-02-2018 01:14 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:10 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:31 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 11:10 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:58 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  If this all works out, we deposit a check for $750k for releasing MH to work for ECU.
This after, depositing a check for $250 for EW to go to Tx St.

As DD pointed out, MH didnt make JMU football, MM did. EW brought social media and the juice, MH pulled it all together wtih a great set of assistants. The gap between JMU and everyone else in the caa in terms of support, facilities, fans is bigger than the gap between Alabama and the rest of the SEC. The floor for a good coach is 8-3 in an off year.

With the built in advantages of JMU, a good coach can position himself for a bigger job and bigger payday. We need to continue to cash in on that. Like 44 said, "you didnt build that", jmu did. oh, did i just do that .

For the next coach, we need to make it painful for them to cash in and leave for a sunbelt, CUSA job., Mac if they want to leave for aac, or a p5, we should get paid as well. Make if $500 for a g5 job and $1 million for a p5

Thats what it was for Houston, 500/G5, 750/AAC, 1M/P5
Thats too low, the ink didn't even dry before he was interviewing.

Some FBS assistants/coordinators have larger buyouts, and buyouts along the lines of "salary at current level or new team salary, whichever is higher" for the remainder of contract term. Some of these other teams courting him thought his buyout was $500k/year for the 10 year duration ... we didn't make this nearly high enough

I agree it's way too low. Next contract should be a 5 year deal with a $750k buyout if another FCS school, $2m for G5, $3m for P5. Lock the damn gates!

Anyone know how this(and Houston’s buyout) compares to other FCS schools? Don’t want to over play your hand and make a good coach seek other options that will make it less difficult to move on.

I'd imagine it'd be one of the highest if not the highest in the FCS. Buyouts do work both ways so the school would have to pay to get rid of a coach. Not many FCS schools have the budget for that. I did read on bisonville that their coach had a lower buyout than houston

The buyout for Scott Satterfield at app st is $425,000 if he gets permission to look elsewhere first.

Jimbo Fisher has a $0 buyout at Texas AM

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is 22 million

(12-03-2018 09:37 AM)doubleduke2016 Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:14 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:10 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:31 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 11:10 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Thats what it was for Houston, 500/G5, 750/AAC, 1M/P5
Thats too low, the ink didn't even dry before he was interviewing.

Some FBS assistants/coordinators have larger buyouts, and buyouts along the lines of "salary at current level or new team salary, whichever is higher" for the remainder of contract term. Some of these other teams courting him thought his buyout was $500k/year for the 10 year duration ... we didn't make this nearly high enough

I agree it's way too low. Next contract should be a 5 year deal with a $750k buyout if another FCS school, $2m for G5, $3m for P5. Lock the damn gates!

Anyone know how this(and Houston’s buyout) compares to other FCS schools? Don’t want to over play your hand and make a good coach seek other options that will make it less difficult to move on.

I'd imagine it'd be one of the highest if not the highest in the FCS. Buyouts do work both ways so the school would have to pay to get rid of a coach. Not many FCS schools have the budget for that. I did read on bisonville that their coach had a lower buyout than houston

The buyout for Scott Satterfield at app st is $425,000 if he gets permission to look elsewhere first.

Jimbo Fisher has a $0 buyout at Texas AM

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is 22 million

Satterfield has been at App St since 2012 and was coaching there when they were still FCS.

Jimbo’s contract is seen as being very one sided, and the aggies don’t have a reputation of being savvy in contract negotiations, they had to pay out $10+ million to dump Sumlin .... they were desperate to get Jimbo and paid thru the nose. Suppose they still may be happy if he keeps winning and doesn’t run out the door quick.

Normally buyouts are proportional on both sides.

The most interesting thing I’ve seen for some good FBS assistants is language along the lines of “current or new salary, whichever is higher” for the remainder of the contract term.

That seems pretty solid if you have a great coach you do not have questions about or plan to buy out. I’m sure the school is on the hook for the full contract term, but another school ends up paying double (with half of what they spend going to the coach) for the contract duration.

It’s not ironclad, but someone would have to put up big money to poach a guy early in the contract. Towards the end it would get cheaper.

I am ok with some sort of vesting or declining buyout. If a guy puts in 5 + years and is ready to move on, so be it. The EW and MHs of the world coming into a favorable situation and using it as a launch pad to a bigger job is not that cool with me. Heck, MH's recruits, other than transfers, are not even contributors.

(12-03-2018 10:11 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  I am ok with some sort of vesting or declining buyout. If a guy puts in 5 + years and is ready to move on, so be it. The EW and MHs of the world coming into a favorable situation and using it as a launch pad to a bigger job is not that cool with me. Heck, MH's recruits, other than transfers, are not even contributors.

Yeah the whole “current or new salary, whichever is higher, for the remaining years” does seem like a great way to go as long as that wouldn’t be hard to pull off without scaring away candidates. If a guy leaves with more than one year left, it’s gonna be a pretty good chunk of money.

Lots of Sports Agents and Attorneys on here. Nothing worse than Agents and Attorneys. A bunch of sexual intellectuals. F* in Know it Alls.

(12-02-2018 10:58 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  If this all works out, we deposit a check for $750k for releasing MH to work for ECU.
This after, depositing a check for $250 for EW to go to Tx St.

As DD pointed out, MH didnt make JMU football, MM did. EW brought social media and the juice, MH pulled it all together wtih a great set of assistants. The gap between JMU and everyone else in the caa in terms of support, facilities, fans is bigger than the gap between Alabama and the rest of the SEC. The floor for a good coach is 8-3 in an off year.

With the built in advantages of JMU, a good coach can position himself for a bigger job and bigger payday. We need to continue to cash in on that. Like 44 said, "you didnt build that", jmu did. oh, did i just do that .

For the next coach, we need to make it painful for them to cash in and leave for a sunbelt, CUSA, Mac, job., If they want to leave for aac, or a p5, we should get paid as well. Make if $500 for a g5 job and $1 million for a p5

It might have been coincidence but JMU football was elevated to a higher lever than it had ever been the last three years. Houston was lucky to be there for the free ride.

jk

(12-03-2018 02:27 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Lots of Sports Agents and Attorneys on here. Nothing worse than Agents and Attorneys. A bunch of sexual intellectuals. F* in Know it Alls.