(11-28-2018 05:13 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  It wouldn't be a bad hire.

Yes it would. Look what he did to Tech's offense when he was coordinator there.
He's a great positional coach, but when you give him something bigger, I don't think he can handle it.

(11-28-2018 05:13 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  It wouldn't be a bad hire.

I think we'd have to be desperate or unimaginative to go after an ACC position coach, when there should be a bunch of head coaches looking for the next step up, or possibly hot FBS coordinators looking for their first head jobs, for us to choose from. Now, maybe if our incoming coach wants him for our staff, then ok.

(11-28-2018 05:17 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:13 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  It wouldn't be a bad hire.

Yes it would. Look what he did to Tech's offense when he was coordinator there.
He's a great positional coach, but when you give him something bigger, I don't think he can handle it.

My thoughts exactly.

(11-28-2018 05:02 PM)fanofallthatisjmu Wrote:  Mike Barber throwing out Bryan Stinespring as a candidate

As a JMU grad, I wish him the best; however, I cannot make a big enough fart noise to express my thoughts on him as our head coach.

(11-28-2018 05:18 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:17 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:13 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  It wouldn't be a bad hire.

Yes it would. Look what he did to Tech's offense when he was coordinator there.
He's a great positional coach, but when you give him something bigger, I don't think he can handle it.

My thoughts exactly.

As for the replacement, I think Houston showed us the way to go. Get a proven coach at a lower-level school who with the right resources and facilities can excel. Oh, and someone who can recruit. The Austin Peay guy and the Elon guy (Elon guy first) are the candidates I'd be focusing on if it were up to me. In fact, I'd be happy to have the Elon coach join us at Colgate this week.

I don't want an unproven position coach or coordinator who has no experience assembling a staff and setting the tone.

But I have to say, I'm disappointed it's Charlotte. I guess it was all about the money after all. The only plus is that we get to see him throttle ODU every year now.

(11-28-2018 05:31 PM)91Alum Wrote:  The Austin Peay guy and the Elon guy (Elon guy first) are the candidates I'd be focusing on if it were up to me. In fact, I'd be happy to have the Elon coach join us at Colgate this week.

I don't want an unproven position coach or coordinator who has no experience assembling a staff and setting the tone.

But I have to say, I'm disappointed it's Charlotte. I guess it was all about the money after all. The only plus is that we get to see him throttle ODU every year now.

Not to mention, both of these guys can join us ASAP to help keep our recruiting class in tact.

(11-28-2018 05:33 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:31 PM)91Alum Wrote:  The Austin Peay guy and the Elon guy (Elon guy first) are the candidates I'd be focusing on if it were up to me. In fact, I'd be happy to have the Elon coach join us at Colgate this week.

I don't want an unproven position coach or coordinator who has no experience assembling a staff and setting the tone.

But I have to say, I'm disappointed it's Charlotte. I guess it was all about the money after all. The only plus is that we get to see him throttle ODU every year now.

Not to mention, both of these guys can join us ASAP to help keep our recruiting class in tact.

Yes! Cignetti has the perfect sales pitch in fact. "I beat Houston on his home field with lesser talent and fewer resources. Imagine what we can do together at JMU."

(11-28-2018 05:35 PM)91Alum Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:33 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:31 PM)91Alum Wrote:  The Austin Peay guy and the Elon guy (Elon guy first) are the candidates I'd be focusing on if it were up to me. In fact, I'd be happy to have the Elon coach join us at Colgate this week.

I don't want an unproven position coach or coordinator who has no experience assembling a staff and setting the tone.

But I have to say, I'm disappointed it's Charlotte. I guess it was all about the money after all. The only plus is that we get to see him throttle ODU every year now.

Not to mention, both of these guys can join us ASAP to help keep our recruiting class in tact.

Yes! Cignetti has the perfect sales pitch in fact. "I beat Houston on his home field with lesser talent and fewer resources. Imagine what we can do together at JMU."

Would need to move fast if he’s the guy, other schools have him on short lists too.

(11-28-2018 04:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:07 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Clearly I’m not a Charlotte fan, but you are so wrong it hurts. Say what you will about current Charlotte, but it’s an exceptional opportunity.

Mike Houston is competitive like any other head coach is. You don’t think he has the vision to see what Charlotte could be? And you don’t think he’s got the ego (like every other HC) to think he can be the guy?

For one, the bar there is hilariously low. Win 6 games and get into a bowl and you’re a God. I think Houston is capable of that with what’s there now. The truth though is Charlotte is a massive public university in one of the fastest growing cities in the country. It’s got deep pockets and as an App fan, worries me. It’s why I didn’t want them to have football in the first place.

A decade of success in Charlotte and they can be UCF. You may laugh at that, but UCF was an afterthought (if that) a decade ago. They’ve got a better chance than 90% of the G5 schools of sneaking into the P5 after the next realignment and it’s got nothing to do with merit. As a traditionalist, it’s sickening haha.

Every G5 program in a major city thinks they can be the next Houston or UCF. Most won't be.

The reality here is that you need to coach in the FBS before you can get a P5 head coaching job. It's the same reason Everett Withers left for a Texas State program with a limited history of success.

False. See: Jim Tressel

(11-28-2018 06:13 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:07 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Clearly I’m not a Charlotte fan, but you are so wrong it hurts. Say what you will about current Charlotte, but it’s an exceptional opportunity.

Mike Houston is competitive like any other head coach is. You don’t think he has the vision to see what Charlotte could be? And you don’t think he’s got the ego (like every other HC) to think he can be the guy?

For one, the bar there is hilariously low. Win 6 games and get into a bowl and you’re a God. I think Houston is capable of that with what’s there now. The truth though is Charlotte is a massive public university in one of the fastest growing cities in the country. It’s got deep pockets and as an App fan, worries me. It’s why I didn’t want them to have football in the first place.

A decade of success in Charlotte and they can be UCF. You may laugh at that, but UCF was an afterthought (if that) a decade ago. They’ve got a better chance than 90% of the G5 schools of sneaking into the P5 after the next realignment and it’s got nothing to do with merit. As a traditionalist, it’s sickening haha.

Every G5 program in a major city thinks they can be the next Houston or UCF. Most won't be.

The reality here is that you need to coach in the FBS before you can get a P5 head coaching job. It's the same reason Everett Withers left for a Texas State program with a limited history of success.

False. See: Jim Tressel

And Jim Donnan
And Mike London
and (I'm sure there are a couple others)...

Cignetti- yes
Healy - yes
Stinespring- no
Donnie/trott- no

Weird update. Brohm staying at Purdue. App State coach a top candidate for the Louisville job.

(11-28-2018 06:18 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:13 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:07 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Clearly I’m not a Charlotte fan, but you are so wrong it hurts. Say what you will about current Charlotte, but it’s an exceptional opportunity.

Mike Houston is competitive like any other head coach is. You don’t think he has the vision to see what Charlotte could be? And you don’t think he’s got the ego (like every other HC) to think he can be the guy?

For one, the bar there is hilariously low. Win 6 games and get into a bowl and you’re a God. I think Houston is capable of that with what’s there now. The truth though is Charlotte is a massive public university in one of the fastest growing cities in the country. It’s got deep pockets and as an App fan, worries me. It’s why I didn’t want them to have football in the first place.

A decade of success in Charlotte and they can be UCF. You may laugh at that, but UCF was an afterthought (if that) a decade ago. They’ve got a better chance than 90% of the G5 schools of sneaking into the P5 after the next realignment and it’s got nothing to do with merit. As a traditionalist, it’s sickening haha.

Every G5 program in a major city thinks they can be the next Houston or UCF. Most won't be.

The reality here is that you need to coach in the FBS before you can get a P5 head coaching job. It's the same reason Everett Withers left for a Texas State program with a limited history of success.

False. See: Jim Tressel

And Jim Donnan
And Mike London
and (I'm sure there are a couple others)...

Jim Harbaugh comes to mind

(11-28-2018 05:08 PM)QuinDuke Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:02 PM)fanofallthatisjmu Wrote:  Mike Barber throwing out Bryan Stinespring as a candidate

Barber must know the guy personally. He was on the hustings for him last time we were looking for a head guy, but basically, he was saying we ought to hire any Va Tech coach they didn't want anymore.

They lived on the same street in Blacksburg.

I have no doubt he's a great guy.

If his tenure as OC isn't good enough proof for you, there's this:

Stinespring applied for the JMU head coaching job last time around and didn't get it. Houston>>>> Stinespring. Why the hell should we take a leftover? If that isn't good enough, there's this: When was the last time a JMU alum has had success head coaching JMU?? It's a poor strategy.
There's a new list of candidates and I'm sure those candidates have proven they can have success as a head coach... something Stinespring cannot say.
We need a head coach with head coaching experience and not a guy that will be essentially learning on the job. We need a guy that has proven that he can bring success to a program (even if it is at a lower division).

The more I look around, without knowing any coordinators that might be interested, I’d put cignetti and Healy at the top of the list.

I think both would keep the machine rolling.

(11-28-2018 05:05 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Bourne has always said he is prepared with a "short list" for times like this.

If so, he better be speed dialing and get something done this week, preferably before the game.

Bourne will say "national" 20 times and then rehire Mickey after running into Mathews at the meat carving station at Spotswood County Club Sunday.

(11-28-2018 06:38 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:18 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:13 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 04:07 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Clearly I’m not a Charlotte fan, but you are so wrong it hurts. Say what you will about current Charlotte, but it’s an exceptional opportunity.

Mike Houston is competitive like any other head coach is. You don’t think he has the vision to see what Charlotte could be? And you don’t think he’s got the ego (like every other HC) to think he can be the guy?

For one, the bar there is hilariously low. Win 6 games and get into a bowl and you’re a God. I think Houston is capable of that with what’s there now. The truth though is Charlotte is a massive public university in one of the fastest growing cities in the country. It’s got deep pockets and as an App fan, worries me. It’s why I didn’t want them to have football in the first place.

A decade of success in Charlotte and they can be UCF. You may laugh at that, but UCF was an afterthought (if that) a decade ago. They’ve got a better chance than 90% of the G5 schools of sneaking into the P5 after the next realignment and it’s got nothing to do with merit. As a traditionalist, it’s sickening haha.

Every G5 program in a major city thinks they can be the next Houston or UCF. Most won't be.

The reality here is that you need to coach in the FBS before you can get a P5 head coaching job. It's the same reason Everett Withers left for a Texas State program with a limited history of success.

False. See: Jim Tressel

And Jim Donnan
And Mike London
and (I'm sure there are a couple others)...

Jim Harbaugh comes to mind

Frank Beamer

Jay Hill. Only concern is recruiting the Mid-Atlantic. But, while at Utah, he was nationally recognized for his recruiting before going to Weber. The guy came off very classy after their loss to us last year. My favorite non-JMU coach in FCS. That Weber team was the toughest FCS team we've faced not named NDSU.

(11-28-2018 08:01 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  Jay Hill. Only concern is recruiting the Mid-Atlantic. But, while at Utah, he was nationally recognized for his recruiting before going to Weber. The guy came off very classy after their loss to us last year. My favorite non-JMU coach in FCS. That Weber team was the toughest FCS team we've faced not named NDSU.

No way to jay hill.

He was born in Utah and never played or coached anywhere but the state of Utah.

Not well rounded enough for my liking.