Miami University

(11-24-2018 07:17 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  FAU
Southern Mississippi or La. Tech
Miami Ohio
Toledo or Western Michigan
La.-Lafayette

Those are the teams likely.

I believe the MAC has enough tie-ins where both UT and WMU will go bowling.

Kansas St is drilling ranked Iowa St in Ames
Kansas St becomes bowl eligible at 6-6
Some decent teams will be getting left out this year. At least 6 to 8, 6-6 teams are staying home.
Parity

I hope 5-5 USC beats ND!!!!
Tight game

KSU lost. USC is now losing. TCU is winning.

(11-24-2018 08:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see the MWC has 5 bowl tie ins but 7 teams..
Does the 6th best MWC team get left out....San Diego St????

Yep. The mwc has beaten no one but each other. As a conference they've proven nothing but some pollsters with agendas want them to be considered good. The sunbelt and CUSA have proven themselves to be better.

out - LousM, Mia[O] & Wym
VT wins next wkend, somebody else drops

(11-24-2018 09:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I believe the MAC has enough tie-ins where both UT and WMU will go bowling.

It seems to hang in part on whether the Buckeyes or Wildcats win the Big Ten CCG. If the Wildcats win, they are NOT going to the CFP, so will take the Big Ten champion contract spot, and of the three at-large spots available, the Big Ten is going to get two at most, not three. The Big Ten might get only one at-large spot, as this was a generally down year for the Big Ten, so two of the Buckeyes, That School Up North and Penn State would be in the regular Big Ten bowl selection order. In that case, the Big Ten seems likely to fill their Detroit bowl tie-in.

If the Buckeyes win, there's a lot more scenarios that see the Big Ten Detroit bowl spot open, with the ACC Detroit bowl spot filled, and despite lazy bowl predictions that slot other schools into that slot, the MAC has the secondary tie-in.

(11-25-2018 02:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 09:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I believe the MAC has enough tie-ins where both UT and WMU will go bowling.

It seems to hang in part on whether the Buckeyes or Wildcats win the Big Ten CCG. If the Wildcats win, they are NOT going to the CFP, so will take the Big Ten champion contract spot, and of the three at-large spots available, the Big Ten is going to get two at most, not three. The Big Ten might get only one at-large spot, as this was a generally down year for the Big Ten, so two of the Buckeyes, That School Up North and Penn State would be in the regular Big Ten bowl selection order. In that case, the Big Ten seems likely to fill their Detroit bowl tie-in.

If the Buckeyes win, there's a lot more scenarios that see the Big Ten Detroit bowl spot open, with the ACC Detroit bowl spot filled, and despite lazy bowl predictions that slot other schools into that slot, the MAC has the secondary tie-in.

If the NW wins the B1G they take a NYD bowl.

Ohio St, Michigan and Penn State get at-large NYD games.

B1G ends up with 3 open slots that will help the MWC and MAC.

(11-24-2018 08:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 08:19 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 08:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 07:44 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 07:17 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  FAU
Southern Mississippi or La. Tech
Miami Ohio
Toledo or Western Michigan
La.-Lafayette

Those are the teams likely. BYU and Wyoming gets in. We do not have to worry about SMU since they lost.

AAC and MWC teams get picked 1st.

Louisiana (7-5) beats ULM (6-6) to win the West Division and play in the SBC title game; therefore, it makes a lot of sense that ULM after finishing 3rd in the division goes bowling over the division champ. Yes it's very likely that Louisiana will be 7-6 after next week but ULM ended the regular season with 2 losses.

NCAA shows La.-Lafayette at 6-6 and Monroe at 5-7.

i cant find it. where does it show that? link please

But I did find this one.
NCAA Box Score

NCAA FBS Conference Standings

I guess someone noticed the mistake and fixed it. You know people punching the numbers in do get things wrong at times.

The NCAA site is slow to update. But you could try going to primary sources like maybe the SBC site for conference standings or go to either the Louisiana or the ULM sites for their teams records. Then there is also espn. They update the standings immediately upon the conclusion of the game and since your post was made 1 hour after the end of the game you had plenty of time to see the updated standings there. Don't blame someone else's errors for you not having the correct information when there are numerous other sites you can check.

(11-25-2018 02:58 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 09:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I believe the MAC has enough tie-ins where both UT and WMU will go bowling.

It seems to hang in part on whether the Buckeyes or Wildcats win the Big Ten CCG. If the Wildcats win, they are NOT going to the CFP, so will take the Big Ten champion contract spot, and of the three at-large spots available, the Big Ten is going to get two at most, not three. The Big Ten might get only one at-large spot, as this was a generally down year for the Big Ten, so two of the Buckeyes, That School Up North and Penn State would be in the regular Big Ten bowl selection order. In that case, the Big Ten seems likely to fill their Detroit bowl tie-in.

If the Buckeyes win, there's a lot more scenarios that see the Big Ten Detroit bowl spot open, with the ACC Detroit bowl spot filled, and despite lazy bowl predictions that slot other schools into that slot, the MAC has the secondary tie-in.

If the NW wins the B1G they take a NYD bowl.

Ohio St, Michigan and Penn State get at-large NYD games.

Man, the product in the hills outside of Athens must be getting stronger and stronger. If NW wins the Big Ten CCG, Ohio State, TSUN and Penn State will not get ALL THREE of the at-large spots in the NY6 games. It just is not going to happen that one conference gets all three of those spots.

Heck, it wouldn't happen even if it was justified. And it certainly wouldn't be justified.

If you are talking about New Year's DAY bowls rather than NY6 bowls, you are just confused: the other New Year's Day bowls that have Big Ten tie-ins don't create open spots in the Big Ten bowl lineup, they ARE spots in the Big Ten bowl lineup.

It's probably safe, because the Big Ten doesn't have as many bowl eligible schools this year as they might have, so AN at-large spot could well be enough to open that spot up. But if three at-large spots were needed, that would not be on offer.

(11-25-2018 03:11 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:58 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 09:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I believe the MAC has enough tie-ins where both UT and WMU will go bowling.

It seems to hang in part on whether the Buckeyes or Wildcats win the Big Ten CCG. If the Wildcats win, they are NOT going to the CFP, so will take the Big Ten champion contract spot, and of the three at-large spots available, the Big Ten is going to get two at most, not three. The Big Ten might get only one at-large spot, as this was a generally down year for the Big Ten, so two of the Buckeyes, That School Up North and Penn State would be in the regular Big Ten bowl selection order. In that case, the Big Ten seems likely to fill their Detroit bowl tie-in.

If the Buckeyes win, there's a lot more scenarios that see the Big Ten Detroit bowl spot open, with the ACC Detroit bowl spot filled, and despite lazy bowl predictions that slot other schools into that slot, the MAC has the secondary tie-in.

If the NW wins the B1G they take a NYD bowl.

Ohio St, Michigan and Penn State get at-large NYD games.

Man, the product in the hills outside of Athens must be getting stronger and stronger. If NW wins the Big Ten CCG, Ohio State, TSUN and Penn State will not get ALL THREE of the at-large spots in the NY6 games. It just is not going to happen that one conference gets all three of those spots.

Heck, it wouldn't happen even if it was justified. And it certainly wouldn't be justified.

They could because the PAC is only getting 1 team, its conference champion.

The ACC only 1 team the champion.

B12 might get two teams if Texas can get in over Penn State. That seems doubtful after OSU's monster win makes the whole B1G look better. WVU is also a possible but will likely get passed up for PSU.

Its plausible the B1G sends 4 teams. There is no limit on it. 7 slots going to the B1G/SEC with the other 5 going to the PAC, XII, AAC, ACC and ND.

If Virginia Tech beats Marshall then 4 schools get left out.
For sure out, IMO: UL Monroe, Miami OH, Wyoming
Out if Virginia Tech wins: Southern Miss

Massey Composite as of last week...

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Georgia
5. Michigan (quality loss)
6. Oklahoma
7. Ohio St.
8. LSU (OT loss)
9. UCF
10. Washington St. (lost)
11. WVU (lost)
12. Penn St.
13. Miss St.
14. Florida

There are 6 NYD games for the CFP and they have to take 12. Michigan is still in it. Washington St and WVU are out completely. Penn St and Florida get in because of huge fan support. PAC has to get at least one team in.

Therefore NW could win the B1G and watch as OSU, Michigan, Penn St all take spots in it.

(11-25-2018 03:18 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ... That seems doubtful after OSU's monster win makes the whole B1G look better. ...

So THAT is what you are smoking. Not killer foliage from the hills around Athens, but the valuable fertilizer product of OSU Ag department's stables.

That "monster win" was a monster win by a school that has looked shaky all year over another Big Ten school. It does not burnish the reputation of the whole Big Ten.

And the hypothesis here is that OSU goes to the CCG and loses to freaking Northwestern. What that tends to suggest is that That School Up North was overranked, Penn State couldn't have been that great if they lost to a school that lost to Northwestern (as well as Purdue), and the whole Northwestern to the Rose Bowl, OSU, TSUN and Penn State grabbing all three access bowl spots, with two Big Ten schools playing each other in either the Peach or Fiesta Bowl scenario goes up in a puff of burning horseshit.

Even if 7 spots go to the Big Ten and SEC combined, which is far less of a lock than you imagine it to be, if we are looking at a scenario with 0 Big Ten schools in the CFP, it won't be 4 to the Big Ten and 3 to the SEC.

(11-25-2018 04:33 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 03:18 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  ... That seems doubtful after OSU's monster win makes the whole B1G look better. ...

So THAT is what you are smoking. Not killer foliage from the hills around Athens, but the valuable fertilizer product of OSU Ag department's stables.

That "monster win" was a monster win by a school that has looked shaky all year over another Big Ten school. It does not burnish the reputation of the whole Big Ten.

And the hypothesis here is that OSU goes to the CCG and loses to freaking Northwestern. What that tends to suggest is that That School Up North was overranked, Penn State couldn't have been that great if they lost to a school that lost to Northwestern (as well as Purdue), and the whole Northwestern to the Rose Bowl, OSU, TSUN and Penn State grabbing all three access bowl spots, with two Big Ten schools playing each other in either the Peach or Fiesta Bowl scenario goes up in a puff of burning horseshit.

No because both OSU and Michigan in that case have only 2 losses. Penn St brings a crapload of fans.

The CFP is only obligated to take the Top 4. The P5 then have ties to the NYD six bowls individually so their champs all are chosen plus the top rated G5 team.

For the other 4-6 slots it doesn't go strictly by the rankings. Its more of a popularity contest at that point. Little guys like Miss St are out in favor of mega brands. NW is another little guy that can't really get in unless they win the B1G.

If NW wins the B1G.

Rose (NW vs. PAC)
Fiesta (Michigan vs. UCF)
Sugar (OSU vs. OU)
Peach (Penn St. vs. Florida)

It is possible for the B1G to swing 4 slots in the CFP. The projection is 3 B1G's not 4 with maybe Texas sneaking in for one out of the XII.

It probably comes out of the MAC, CUSA, and SBC. My money would be on UMOH and EMU (nobody's going to want them), ULM, and USM.

I think Tulane could be snubbed, too. Wyoming's about at that line with Tulane.

BYU won't be staying home because their fans travel. They'll get considered easily ahead of a 7-5 MAC team.

(11-25-2018 05:00 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  If NW wins the B1G.

Rose (NW vs. PAC)
Fiesta (Michigan vs. UCF)
Sugar (OSU vs. OU)
Peach (Penn St. vs. Florida)

It is possible for the B1G to swing 4 slots in the CFP. The projection is 3 B1G's not 4 with maybe Texas sneaking in for one out of the XII.

No, the Sugar Bowl is guaranteed to be SEC vs Big 12.

One thing that matters here is how far does LSU fall for losing on the road in 7 OT to another ranked team? If they fall just 2-3 spots, that would give the SEC 4 teams in the CFP/NY6.

Also, at-large spots in the NY6, if any, are filled strictly by the CFP rankings. The highest-ranked available team fills the at-large spot.

(11-25-2018 03:22 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  If Virginia Tech beats Marshall then 4 schools get left out.
For sure out, IMO: UL Monroe, Miami OH, Wyoming
Out if Virginia Tech wins: Southern Miss

Man I sure hope Wyoming get an invite!!