(11-24-2018 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 08:11 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:49 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:31 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

GT was in the ACC championship as recently as 2012. Win that these days and you’re probably in the playoff. So I’d say it’s still possible.

They were 7-7 that year and 6-6 going into the championship game. Even if they did win the ACC, they wouldnt likely be top 15 with that record.
I guess its possible, but IMO, quite unlikely.

They've won their division it 4 times under Johnson. They were 9-4 (2008), 10-3 (2009), 7-7 (2012), and 11-3 (2014). The 11-3 team ended up ranked 7th/8th, and with a win in the conference championship game might possibly have made a round of 4. The 9-4 and 10-3 teams were 9-2 for regular season, the 10-3 won the conference championship, then both lost their bowls. None of the were going 12/13/14-0, but they were pretty close. Three time that close in 11 years is not bad for a non-Bama/Clemson/OhioSt/ND/SoCal/Texas school.

I wouldn't have a problem with a contrarian offense at Rice because we, like all G5 teams, have zero chance at making the playoff, even with an undefeated record. I have my issues with continuing to play a sport for whose championship we are excluded from competing, but putting those aside, if we wouldn't really be losing anything by foreclosing the possibility of an undefeated season, then yes, I would trade that for steady winning-but-not-spectacular seasons.

But at the major conference level, no team should settle for a scheme that is guaranteed to be always a bridesmaid and never a bride.

(11-24-2018 08:57 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 08:11 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:49 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:31 PM)Antarius Wrote:  Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

GT was in the ACC championship as recently as 2012. Win that these days and you’re probably in the playoff. So I’d say it’s still possible.

They were 7-7 that year and 6-6 going into the championship game. Even if they did win the ACC, they wouldnt likely be top 15 with that record.
I guess its possible, but IMO, quite unlikely.

They've won their division it 4 times under Johnson. They were 9-4 (2008), 10-3 (2009), 7-7 (2012), and 11-3 (2014). The 11-3 team ended up ranked 7th/8th, and with a win in the conference championship game might possibly have made a round of 4. The 9-4 and 10-3 teams were 9-2 for regular season, the 10-3 won the conference championship, then both lost their bowls. None of the were going 12/13/14-0, but they were pretty close. Three time that close in 11 years is not bad for a non-Bama/Clemson/OhioSt/ND/SoCal/Texas school.

I wouldn't have a problem with a contrarian offense at Rice because we, like all G5 teams, have zero chance at making the playoff, even with an undefeated record. I have my issues with continuing to play a sport for whose championship we are excluded from competing, but putting those aside, if we wouldn't really be losing anything by foreclosing the possibility of an undefeated season, then yes, I would trade that for steady winning-but-not-spectacular seasons.
But at the major conference level, no team should settle for a scheme that is guaranteed to be always a bridesmaid and never a bride.

I don't know that any offense is "guaranteed to be...never a bride." And I know plenty of folks that would be happy to be a bridesmaid 4 times in 11 years. Other than maybe Bama and Clemson, I'm not sure there's anybody else right now for whom that wouldn't be an upgrade,

A$M - LSU going to OT tied at 31.

LSU thought it was over when they intercepted with about 30sedonds left, even gave the coach his Gatorade bath, but the QB was rules down before he threw the interception.

LSU just got effed by the refs again

(11-24-2018 11:09 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  A$M - LSU going to OT tied at 31.

LSU thought it was over when they intercepted with about 30sedonds left, even gave the coach his Gatorade bath, but the QB was rules down before he threw the interception.

And again in OT when it appeared Aggies had fumbled with the Tigers up 3, but ruled no catch.

Aggies have 1st and goal at the one, but have to settle for a FG. Going to 2nd OT.

Now Aggies go up 7 in 2nd OT.

LSU scores on fourth down

Going to 3rd OT

And LSU scores on 1st play of 3rd OT and makes 2 PT conversion.

LSU score on first play, converts the 2pter

And Aggies match. Going to 4th OT.

A&M kicks FG. LSU can win with TD.

5th OT coming up.

LSU scores TD on halfback pass, but misses on conversion. Aggies can win with TD AND 2’pt conversion.

Misses 2PT. 58-52 Tigers. A&M’s turn.

Players are exhausted. Going down on every play seems like.

Aggies score on 4th down. Conversion is no good. 6th OT coming.

Aggie TD on 1st play of 6th OT. 2 pt conversion good.

A&M.gets the conversion. LSU’s turn.

LSU TD. Conversion is good. 7th OT coming.