WASH 3
NY 2
17:44 in 3rd

#4 Michigan 39
#10 Ohio State 62
3:15 left in game

looks like everyone will move up at least one spot today!

(11-24-2018 03:40 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Well, let’s see, are we going to judge based on one game or 20+ years?
Nice résumé, but most of that is ancient history. You either adapt with the times and rules changes, or you lose your job. For example, no one in his right mind would bring back the wishbone. It just won't work, for a variety of reasons.

Which is, of course, why Army has done so poorly this year. And by the way, I would like for you to look at the videos that I posted of Hawaii and Georgia Southern and explain where they were running the wishbone.

Quote:But, let's see what the "genius" has done lately: while he is a mediocre 24-24 in the past 4 seasons, what's more telling is that his team is only 9-20 against teams with a winning record.
Unimpressive.

We would have jumped through a bunch of hoops to have that record.

There’s really no point in continuing this story. You obviously have in mind that there’s only one way to run a football offense, and you’re just as obviously going to sling a barrage of ad hominems at anyone who disagrees. I have better things to do with my time, and I would hope that you do as well.

Speaking of Georgia Southern:

Georgia Southern Eagles 28
Georgia State Panthers 0
End of 3rd Quarter in Atlanta

(11-24-2018 04:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Which is, of course, why Army has done so poorly this year. And by the way, I would like for you to look at the videos that I posted of Hawaii and Georgia Southern and explain where they were running the wishbone.

We would have jumped through a bunch of hoops to have that record.

Army does not run the wishbone. Is there cable (or satellite) in Huntsville? Option attack is not "the wishbone" which has 3 running backs. Army is successful this season, in great part, because the Black Knights have a quarterback who can throw the ball.

(11-24-2018 04:29 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 04:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Which is, of course, why Army has done so poorly this year. And by the way, I would like for you to look at the videos that I posted of Hawaii and Georgia Southern and explain where they were running the wishbone.

We would have jumped through a bunch of hoops to have that record.

Army does not run the wishbone. Is there cable (or satellite) in Huntsville? Option attack is not "the wishbone" which has 3 running backs. Army is successful this season, in great part, because the Black Knights have a quarterback who can throw the ball.

Oh yeah, definitely the reason why Army was so great. All those passing yards (of which 200 came in a 34-14 L to Duke) that amounted to less than GT’s.

Maybe Army has a damn good coach who knows how to win football games by running the ball. I know it would kill you to admit it. That Larry Fedora, sling-it-around offense sure looked great today.

The reality is that there are many good ways to score points. Spread, flexbone, ground and pound (Pretty much what UGA did today).

(11-24-2018 04:29 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 04:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Which is, of course, why Army has done so poorly this year. And by the way, I would like for you to look at the videos that I posted of Hawaii and Georgia Southern and explain where they were running the wishbone.
We would have jumped through a bunch of hoops to have that record.

Army does not run the wishbone. Is there cable (or satellite) in Huntsville? Option attack is not "the wishbone" which has 3 running backs. Army is successful this season, in great part, because the Black Knights have a quarterback who can throw the ball.

Neither does Paul Johnson or Georgia Tech. Yes, I know full well that they both run the flexbone, which is nothing more than the updated wishbone. And Army has thrown the ball 85 times and completed 44 percent in 11 games, so roughly 8 attempts and 4 completions per game. Is that enough passing for you?

And I’m not in Huntsville, so try to get your facts straight.

Purdue Boilermakers were 28-21 victors today at rival Indiana.

By reclaiming the Old Oaken Bucket for the second straight year, Purdue (6-6, 5-4) also became bowl-eligible in back-to-back seasons for the first time since 2011-12.

Indiana (5-7, 2-7) lost six of its final seven games, falling one win short of the postseason for the second year in a row.

Purdue: Coach Jeff Brohm has taken the Boilermakers to bowl games in each of his first two seasons as head coach, beating the Hoosiers both times to make it. He's been to bowl games all five seasons he's been a head coach and now Purdue faces its biggest offseason question: Will Brohm return for Year 3 with a job opening at his alma mater, Louisville.

Indiana: The Hoosiers spent all of the last offseason preaching the importance of finishing. But after starting 4-1, the Hoosiers only got one more win and must figure out what needs to change to avoid a third straight bowl absence in 2019.

(11-24-2018 05:02 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Purdue Boilermakers were 28-21 victors today at rival Indiana.

By reclaiming the Old Oaken Bucket for the second straight year, Purdue (6-6, 5-4) also became bowl-eligible in back-to-back seasons for the first time since 2011-12.

Indiana (5-7, 2-7) lost six of its final seven games, falling one win short of the postseason for the second year in a row.

Purdue: Coach Jeff Brohm has taken the Boilermakers to bowl games in each of his first two seasons as head coach, beating the Hoosiers both times to make it. He's been to bowl games all five seasons he's been a head coach and now Purdue faces its biggest offseason question: Will Brohm return for Year 3 with a job opening at his alma mater, Louisville.

Indiana: The Hoosiers spent all of the last offseason preaching the importance of finishing. But after starting 4-1, the Hoosiers only got one more win and must figure out what needs to change to avoid a third straight bowl absence in 2019.

Things don't look rosier for the Hoosiers next season. Their non-conference schedule is easy (Ball State, Eastern Illinois, Connecticut), but they are in the tougher division (East) of the B1G, and their crossover games are at Nebraska, Northwestern, and at Purdue.

(11-24-2018 04:43 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  That Larry Fedora, sling-it-around offense sure looked great today.

Yeah, they were a spectacular 2-9 this year. And he's 45-43 in seven years there while Johnson has gone 49-40 in the same time frame in the same division. Obviously Fedora's approach is better.

Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.

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(11-24-2018 05:34 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.

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I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

UTEP finishes its season 1-11 with a 4-turnover 39-7 home loss to Southern Miss, which became bowl eligible with the win (6-5 record).

(11-24-2018 06:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 05:34 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.

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I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

(11-24-2018 02:51 PM)wrysal Wrote:  Tech has one more quarter left to save Coach Bro's job. They're down 11 to Baylor.

Tech finishes down 11 ... losing to Baylor 35-24 in the "Who's Going to Become Bowl Eligible" Showdown at AT&T Stadium in Arlington.

(11-24-2018 06:31 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 05:34 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.

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I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

GT was in the ACC championship as recently as 2012. Win that these days and you’re probably in the playoff. So I’d say it’s still possible.

Minnesota wins at Camp Randall for the first time since 1994 and with it, becomes bowl eligible.

Houston beats BYU on the road in men's hoops by 12. Nice win for them.

With the advent of WatchESPN and the like, I rarely if ever listen to college sports on the radio except for Rice Baseball.

I have a satellite radio subscription on my new car and was just listening to the Clemson-USC game on the Clemson network. They played two PSAs during one of their break.. Good to know that even they can’t get enough radio advertisers worth a damn.

(11-24-2018 06:49 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:31 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 05:34 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.

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I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

GT was in the ACC championship as recently as 2012. Win that these days and you’re probably in the playoff. So I’d say it’s still possible.

They were 7-7 that year and 6-6 going into the championship game. Even if they did win the ACC, they wouldnt likely be top 15 with that record.

I guess its possible, but IMO, quite unlikely.

(11-24-2018 08:11 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:49 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:31 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 06:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 05:34 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Well, the problem with a contrarian run-heavy offense is that you'll never go 12-0 with it. There will always be at least a few games where the opponent matches up well with it or it otherwise doesn't work. If your alumni/fan constituency is ok with taking an undefeated season off the table before every season even starts, then it can "succeed" in the sense of producing winning seasons. But a P5 school like Georgia Tech is basically tossing away its chance at a national championship every year.
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I’d be ecstatic if that were our problem. And so would probably 90% of this board.

Also, GT isnt going to win a NC in football now, no matter who their coach is or what their scheme is. So IMO, that's not a valid negative as it is based on a near impossible basis.

GT was in the ACC championship as recently as 2012. Win that these days and you’re probably in the playoff. So I’d say it’s still possible.

They were 7-7 that year and 6-6 going into the championship game. Even if they did win the ACC, they wouldnt likely be top 15 with that record.
I guess its possible, but IMO, quite unlikely.

They've won their division it 4 times under Johnson. They were 9-4 (2008), 10-3 (2009), 7-7 (2012), and 11-3 (2014). The 11-3 team ended up ranked 7th/8th, and with a win in the conference championship game might possibly have made a round of 4. The 9-4 and 10-3 teams were 9-2 for regular season, the 10-3 won the conference championship, then both lost their bowls. None of the were going 12/13/14-0, but they were pretty close. Three time that close in 11 years is not bad for a non-Bama/Clemson/OhioSt/ND/SoCal/Texas school.