Melo was more than happy to be the best offensive player on a really terrible team. There is not one single spec in his entire body that cares about winning, it is all about him getting his.

I used to like Noah, but seems he has fallen off the map. But, I am a very casual NBA fan outside of the Grizz, so maybe he is much better than I think he is.

(11-20-2018 03:08 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  JB and the FO appear to have made the decision that Rabb is not ready to be a backup center on a playoff team.

This move is not that big a deal. Knicks cut him, so Grizz don't have to pay a lot of money or give up assets to sign him.

It's a big deal when there are, at the moment, bigger needs.

We are 11-5, tied for the best record in the West. Not sure the need is as big as you think. Especially since Dillon is likely better than anyone they can acquire.

Kyle is like 3rd best defensive wing in the league right now. Not sure JB would replace him with a more offensively oriented wing anyway.

(11-20-2018 03:18 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Melo was more than happy to be the best offensive player on a really terrible team. There is not one single spec in his entire body that cares about winning, it is all about him getting his.

I used to like Noah, but seems he has fallen off the map. But, I am a very casual NBA fan outside of the Grizz, so maybe he is much better than I think he is.

Grizz wouldn't be counting on Noah for much - maybe 12 or so minutes a game. Just big man depth.

(11-20-2018 03:23 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:18 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Melo was more than happy to be the best offensive player on a really terrible team. There is not one single spec in his entire body that cares about winning, it is all about him getting his.

I used to like Noah, but seems he has fallen off the map. But, I am a very casual NBA fan outside of the Grizz, so maybe he is much better than I think he is.

Grizz wouldn't be counting on Noah for much - maybe 12 or so minutes a game. Just big man depth.

Those 12 mins will be taking mins away from JaMychal. Got to remember that Casspi and Anderson are playing minutes at the 4 as well.

I'd much rather have Green get more mins than give a washed up/injury ridden Noah mins.

I just think it's a waste of roster spot when there are more pressing needs.

(11-20-2018 03:21 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:08 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  JB and the FO appear to have made the decision that Rabb is not ready to be a backup center on a playoff team.

This move is not that big a deal. Knicks cut him, so Grizz don't have to pay a lot of money or give up assets to sign him.

It's a big deal when there are, at the moment, bigger needs.

We are 11-5, tied for the best record in the West. Not sure the need is as big as you think. Especially since Dillon is likely better than anyone they can acquire.

Kyle is like 3rd best defensive wing in the league right now. Not sure JB would replace him with a more offensively oriented wing anyway.

See there you go again mentioning only defense. There is another part of the game.

It's one month into the season let's not act like they've accomplished their goal. They've been able to mask it because of the way Mike and Marc are playing. We've seen this story play out before. Grizz need wing production in the worst way. It's been that way for 8 years. It holds them back from being better.

There is no telling how Dillon will be when he gets back.

830, wings are the most in demand commodity right now. There are a lot of point guards, and a lot of bigs. Grizz had two draft pics and the mid-level exception to work with this summer. Got JJJ, Garrett Temple, Shelvin Mack, Casspi, and got rid of McLemore and DD. Can't just invent a wing because we need one. Lots of teams would like to add a 3&D wing.

(11-20-2018 03:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  830, wings are the most in demand commodity right now. There are a lot of point guards, and a lot of bigs. Grizz had two draft pics and the mid-level exception to work with this summer. Got JJJ, Garrett Temple, Shelvin Mack, Casspi, and got rid of McLemore and DD. Can't just invent a wing because we need one. Lots of teams would like to add a 3&D wing.

I get that, but I would explore all those options first before going after a big who isn't really going to help you and will take minutes away from Green (yes Noah would take minutes away from Green).

All I'm saying is explore other options before going after Noah. Teams aren't going to beating down the door to get Noah so they have time.

(11-20-2018 03:15 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:12 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 02:37 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 01:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Re Noah, forget last year. Noah's was Phil's guy. Knicks nation hated Phil. Noah and Hornacek got into it, story said Hornacek shoved Noah first. Knicks told Noah to go home, they were tanking and going young. Noah only played 40 minutes all year.

The year prior, Joakim averaged 8.8 rebounds in only 22 minutes per game. Also had a 105 D Rating, which is excellent. He plays ridiculously hard, which is probably why his body was so beat up at age 31.

Grizz are going to pick up a veteran, back-up center. Marc isn't going to play 35 mpg for 82 games in his age 34 year. Last year, we got rid of vets like Brandon Wright and Ennis. This year we are making a playoff run, so we will acquire veterans. Noah seems like a good pick up for the role he will play.

Defense number and rebounds are great, but where is the offense going to come from?

Kind of have to score to win. Grizz can't continue to count on Mike and Marc to be the bulk of the scoring. They have to find a legit 3rd consistent scoring option.

Everyone talked about it could be Marshon or Selden that hasn't been the case so far. Still early but so far it hasn't been the case.

JJJ will be the 3rd legit consistent scoring option by mid season.

Maybe he will maybe he won't. Can't rely on that happening. His foul issue, though he's getting better, keeps him from being that consistent 3rd scoring option.

IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

(11-20-2018 07:53 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:15 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:12 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 02:37 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 01:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Re Noah, forget last year. Noah's was Phil's guy. Knicks nation hated Phil. Noah and Hornacek got into it, story said Hornacek shoved Noah first. Knicks told Noah to go home, they were tanking and going young. Noah only played 40 minutes all year.

The year prior, Joakim averaged 8.8 rebounds in only 22 minutes per game. Also had a 105 D Rating, which is excellent. He plays ridiculously hard, which is probably why his body was so beat up at age 31.

Grizz are going to pick up a veteran, back-up center. Marc isn't going to play 35 mpg for 82 games in his age 34 year. Last year, we got rid of vets like Brandon Wright and Ennis. This year we are making a playoff run, so we will acquire veterans. Noah seems like a good pick up for the role he will play.

Defense number and rebounds are great, but where is the offense going to come from?

Kind of have to score to win. Grizz can't continue to count on Mike and Marc to be the bulk of the scoring. They have to find a legit 3rd consistent scoring option.

Everyone talked about it could be Marshon or Selden that hasn't been the case so far. Still early but so far it hasn't been the case.

JJJ will be the 3rd legit consistent scoring option by mid season.

Maybe he will maybe he won't. Can't rely on that happening. His foul issue, though he's getting better, keeps him from being that consistent 3rd scoring option.

IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

(11-20-2018 11:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  We could definitely use some rebounding but I doubt we will sign Noah. If only Chandler Parsons could get his molo back

I think with Green back the rebounding will be better.

(11-21-2018 09:30 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 07:53 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:15 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:12 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 02:37 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Defense number and rebounds are great, but where is the offense going to come from?

Kind of have to score to win. Grizz can't continue to count on Mike and Marc to be the bulk of the scoring. They have to find a legit 3rd consistent scoring option.

Everyone talked about it could be Marshon or Selden that hasn't been the case so far. Still early but so far it hasn't been the case.

JJJ will be the 3rd legit consistent scoring option by mid season.

Maybe he will maybe he won't. Can't rely on that happening. His foul issue, though he's getting better, keeps him from being that consistent 3rd scoring option.

IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

By mid season we can count on him IMO. His shot attempts have increased progressively and his minutes have increased (36 last game). He's our 3rd scoring option at the moment and will keep getting better.

There's no way to get a legit wing; Beal might be an option this year but we gotta package quite a few of the current players in our rosters and maybe even draft picks if it's a possibility.

(11-20-2018 11:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  We could definitely use some rebounding but I doubt we will sign Noah. If only Chandler Parsons could get his molo back

That ship has sailed. I just want to see Parsons cut just so he is no longer a member of our team and he can pack it up and leave our city. He was nothing but a disaster.

(11-21-2018 10:49 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 09:30 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 07:53 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:15 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:12 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  JJJ will be the 3rd legit consistent scoring option by mid season.

Maybe he will maybe he won't. Can't rely on that happening. His foul issue, though he's getting better, keeps him from being that consistent 3rd scoring option.

IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

By mid season we can count on him IMO. His shot attempts have increased progressively and his minutes have increased (36 last game). He's our 3rd scoring option at the moment and will keep getting better.

There's no way to get a legit wing; Beal might be an option this year but we gotta package quite a few of the current players in our rosters and maybe even draft picks if it's a possibility.

He lacks a mid range game and a consistent 3 point shot. He's not there yet to be that consistent threat. He will get there, but he's not going to get a mid range game magically midway through the season. His offensive production has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot of work to reach his potential.



It would be beneficial for the Grizz if Dillon, Marshon, or Selden become that wing threat, but if not might as well search for wings for the 15th spot on the roster instead of wasting it on a big who is injury prone and doesn't give you anything on the offensive end.

So if your the Grizz explore those options first before going after a Noah. Explore your biggest need first, then go after secondary needs.

(11-21-2018 12:16 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 10:49 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 09:30 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 07:53 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:15 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Maybe he will maybe he won't. Can't rely on that happening. His foul issue, though he's getting better, keeps him from being that consistent 3rd scoring option.

IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

By mid season we can count on him IMO. His shot attempts have increased progressively and his minutes have increased (36 last game). He's our 3rd scoring option at the moment and will keep getting better.

There's no way to get a legit wing; Beal might be an option this year but we gotta package quite a few of the current players in our rosters and maybe even draft picks if it's a possibility.

He lacks a mid range game and a consistent 3 point shot. He's not there yet to be that consistent threat. He will get there, but he's not going to get a mid range game magically midway through the season. His offensive production has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot of work to reach his potential.



It would be beneficial for the Grizz if Dillon, Marshon, or Selden become that wing threat, but if not might as well search for wings for the 15th spot on the roster instead of wasting it on a big who is injury prone and doesn't give you anything on the offensive end.

So if your the Grizz explore those options first before going after a Noah. Explore your biggest need first, then go after secondary needs.

In the last 2 games, JJJ has started taking midrange shots and actually making some. He's progressing rapidly.

Gasol has been playing 35+ mins and he cannot hold up for an 82 game season at that rate. A backup C is needed and Noah, at a vet min, makes sense. If he doesn't pan out, he can be cut.

(11-21-2018 01:20 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 12:16 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 10:49 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 09:30 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 07:53 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  IMO the skill set is there for that to happen versus a wish to get a wing now that can be a legit 3rd option.

Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

By mid season we can count on him IMO. His shot attempts have increased progressively and his minutes have increased (36 last game). He's our 3rd scoring option at the moment and will keep getting better.

There's no way to get a legit wing; Beal might be an option this year but we gotta package quite a few of the current players in our rosters and maybe even draft picks if it's a possibility.

He lacks a mid range game and a consistent 3 point shot. He's not there yet to be that consistent threat. He will get there, but he's not going to get a mid range game magically midway through the season. His offensive production has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot of work to reach his potential.



It would be beneficial for the Grizz if Dillon, Marshon, or Selden become that wing threat, but if not might as well search for wings for the 15th spot on the roster instead of wasting it on a big who is injury prone and doesn't give you anything on the offensive end.

So if your the Grizz explore those options first before going after a Noah. Explore your biggest need first, then go after secondary needs.

In the last 2 games, JJJ has started taking midrange shots and actually making some. He's progressing rapidly.

Gasol has been playing 35+ mins and he cannot hold up for an 82 game season at that rate. A backup C is needed and Noah, at a vet min, makes sense. If he doesn't pan out, he can be cut.

Last night perfect example of why JJJ is not there yet. Mid season isn't going change that.

Again why waste a spot on a big who could just be cut. Marc is going to play around 32 mins a night. That's just not going to change, as much as we would all like it to, that is what he's going to play.

Explore other options first then if nothing comes up then circle back around to Noah, but primary needs should be considered first before any secondary needs.

Noah is a great idea and will help solidify grizz lockdown defense. He can back up Gasoline

(11-22-2018 10:00 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 01:20 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 12:16 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 10:49 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(11-21-2018 09:30 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Again yeah the skill set is there, but you can't 100% count on him being on the floor long enough to make that impact.

By mid season we can count on him IMO. His shot attempts have increased progressively and his minutes have increased (36 last game). He's our 3rd scoring option at the moment and will keep getting better.

There's no way to get a legit wing; Beal might be an option this year but we gotta package quite a few of the current players in our rosters and maybe even draft picks if it's a possibility.

He lacks a mid range game and a consistent 3 point shot. He's not there yet to be that consistent threat. He will get there, but he's not going to get a mid range game magically midway through the season. His offensive production has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot of work to reach his potential.



It would be beneficial for the Grizz if Dillon, Marshon, or Selden become that wing threat, but if not might as well search for wings for the 15th spot on the roster instead of wasting it on a big who is injury prone and doesn't give you anything on the offensive end.

So if your the Grizz explore those options first before going after a Noah. Explore your biggest need first, then go after secondary needs.

In the last 2 games, JJJ has started taking midrange shots and actually making some. He's progressing rapidly.

Gasol has been playing 35+ mins and he cannot hold up for an 82 game season at that rate. A backup C is needed and Noah, at a vet min, makes sense. If he doesn't pan out, he can be cut.

Last night perfect example of why JJJ is not there yet. Mid season isn't going change that.

Again why waste a spot on a big who could just be cut. Marc is going to play around 32 mins a night. That's just not going to change, as much as we would all like it to, that is what he's going to play.

Explore other options first then if nothing comes up then circle back around to Noah, but primary needs should be considered first before any secondary needs.

Last night is the perfect reason why we need another big, ideally a center. Our 3 bigs had 16 fouls. Gasol again had to play a lot of minutes.

There isn’t a wing available that can be a scoring option unless we get someone in a trade. That doesn’t affect the open spot. Can you suggest who they can get outside of a trade that can be a legit scoring option?

Primary need is another big. Gasol gets hurt and this season is done. We can’t have that dude average 35+ mins for 82 games.

I would rather see the Grizzlies take anyone on THIS board than Carmelo Anthony. Melody is not just dead weight , he is a negative to any team. He sucks as an NBA player and not just lately. he has never been a winner in the NBA, negative WAR for sure.

After last night we need a center