(11-27-2018 10:11 AM)RiceOL83 Wrote:  

(11-27-2018 10:08 AM)Hank16 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 09:59 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 03:57 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  The guy has chosen the demolish and rebuild strategy.

I'm unclear what other options we had. Its not like Bloomgren inherited the Burj Khalifa here. He got some decrepit condemned disaster and pretty much the only way out is to knock it down and start over.

You may disagree with his way of handling it, but I'm not sure what other option there was.

All this bashing could have been avoided had Bloom went with his QB

Fake news... truth telling is not bashing.

It's bashing, has been all season but your boy should have gotten a start. whatever happen only they know but I think he deserved a full game. should have played against UTEP or finished Wake game...could have put this to rest. worst case he moves to TE or he could have become short yardage QB...Rice version of "The Eighteen Wheeler". Now sounds like he is transferring or focusing on baseball.

It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy .

You are also not Salty. You told us as much in post #156.

Whatever his plan was or wasn't, I think we wasted a year. I said from the git-go I would judge on W's and L's. W's = 2, L's = 11. Even I, a skeptic who had high hopes but low expectations, expected more.

If there is a plan, I hope it kicks in soon. I want more W's next year.

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

The gratuitous use of ellipses invalidates the final paragraph.

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

You're definitely being sloppy. ABO stands for Agenda Based Offense and presumably the bolded is including defensive/special teams positions as well, so the acronym for "ABO II" needs to be revised.

(11-28-2018 10:15 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

You're definitely being sloppy. ABO stands for Agenda Based Offense and presumably the bolded is including defensive/special teams positions as well, so the acronym for "ABO II" needs to be revised.

ABODS?

Agenda-Based Scheme for OFfense Special Teams Etc (Especially Laughable)



or simply


ABSOFSTEEL

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

I suspect option 2. Forget the "middle classes" since they are stink but put them back in if someone is inured or can't/won't block. Also forget about seniors until Senior Day when it would be too political incorrect to totally blow them all off. Focus on new recruits who are "our guys" and results won't matter this year cause we got time to implement Stanford 2.0

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I see what y'all did there.... Y'all "nitpickin" the Ghost now. It's all good.. ABO II shall henceforth be referred to as "PDS".... Parliament Denial Syndrome... I just want to make sure I'm not sloppy or inaccurate with my acronyms... For those who believe the Ghost's theories to be "laughable", delirious, or insane just know that the Ghost would like to thank the many of you that have reached out and privately told the Ghost that he's right on the money (even though they all wished I wasn't)... But it's all in good fun and fact... I'll continue having fun with the facts, and y'all hammer away at the Ghost. He's a big ole boy...

(11-29-2018 11:05 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  I see what y'all did there.... Y'all "nitpickin" the Ghost now. It's all good.. ABO II shall henceforth be referred to as "PDS".... Parliament Denial Syndrome... I just want to make sure I'm not sloppy or inaccurate with my acronyms... For those who believe the Ghost's theories to be "laughable", delirious, or insane just know that the Ghost would like to thank the many of you that have reached out and privately told the Ghost that he's right on the money (even though they all wished I wasn't)... But it's all in good fun and fact... I'll continue having fun with the facts, and y'all hammer away at the Ghost. He's a big ole boy...

Sorry... I meant to say „Laudable“
#ABSOFSTEEL

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

(11-30-2018 12:05 AM)Hank16 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

Honestly......

Bloom's #1 priority was to 'get wins' this season --- 4 wins make it easier to recruit over 2 wins (1 against PV). Bloom got sold on Stankavage as a one year 'win inflator' by someone trying to free up a scholarship slot.

As it turns out, it did not have the upside that Bloom thought. By the time he realized that Stank was nowhere even near a mediocre QB, 4-5 games had already run the course. Best move Bloom had was to get the younger players reps instead of 'win-inflation' (which at that point was not going to happen, no way, no how).

Here is hoping for the absolute best for TJ both in baseball upcoming (if that is to be the case) and to wherever the next stop for football takes him.

(11-30-2018 10:35 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 12:05 AM)Hank16 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

Honestly......

Bloom's #1 priority was to 'get wins' this season --- 4 wins make it easier to recruit over 2 wins (1 against PV). Bloom got sold on Stankavage as a one year 'win inflator' by someone trying to free up a scholarship slot.

As it turns out, it did not have the upside that Bloom thought. By the time he realized that Stank was nowhere even near a mediocre QB, 4-5 games had already run the course. Best move Bloom had was to get the younger players reps instead of 'win-inflation' (which at that point was not going to happen, no way, no how).

Here is hoping for the absolute best for TJ both in baseball upcoming (if that is to be the case) and to wherever the next stop for football takes him.

Sounds pretty reasonable. To some extent it explains how the QB who started the season as 1-B stood on the sideline and watched 1-A, C, D, E, and F play.

(11-30-2018 10:42 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:35 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 12:05 AM)Hank16 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

Honestly......

Bloom's #1 priority was to 'get wins' this season --- 4 wins make it easier to recruit over 2 wins (1 against PV). Bloom got sold on Stankavage as a one year 'win inflator' by someone trying to free up a scholarship slot.

As it turns out, it did not have the upside that Bloom thought. By the time he realized that Stank was nowhere even near a mediocre QB, 4-5 games had already run the course. Best move Bloom had was to get the younger players reps instead of 'win-inflation' (which at that point was not going to happen, no way, no how).

Here is hoping for the absolute best for TJ both in baseball upcoming (if that is to be the case) and to wherever the next stop for football takes him.

Sounds pretty reasonable. To some extent it explains how the QB who started the season as 1-B stood on the sideline and watched 1-A, C, D, E, and F play.

It’s like everyone forgets that “1-B” came in after 1-A and produced a fumble and interception on something like 3 plays. The younger guys all looked more prepared in their starts than that, even with some ill advised throws.

(11-30-2018 10:50 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:42 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:35 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 12:05 AM)Hank16 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 09:40 AM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  It's clear what happened... Doesn't require much sight. They came into the season with a simple plan:

Either

1) invest in a "one-season" jump (explains Stankavage being "the starter from day one" after we were told all camp we didn't have one), or
2) the moment it became obvious that there wouldn't be a one year miracle (probably at Wake Forest or UTSA), immediately bypass an incremental build (which would use middle classes and coach them up hard with a phasing of new players) in exchange for the "results won't matter until we get em all in here because the AD will give me a couple seasons or even three to 'Stanfordize' it"

So as a result, there was zero gain from investing too much time, energy, effort, or capital in any "two year guys" unless they play a position where there isn't a three or four year guy on the roster or on the way......That's the deal... That's ABO II.

Before anyone (anyone like Hank) says the Ghost is being sloshy, or slappy, or bashy please note that there are no bolded phrases, no exclamation points, no italicized words, and no all caps. This post is emotionless and unbiased and merely an explanation.

I hear ya... makes sense but I think they both were beat out, performance wise, but got the #1&#2 spot... TJ should have gotten a legit shot. What else can I say... I don’t agree with you most/all of the time but... I hear ya

Honestly......

Bloom's #1 priority was to 'get wins' this season --- 4 wins make it easier to recruit over 2 wins (1 against PV). Bloom got sold on Stankavage as a one year 'win inflator' by someone trying to free up a scholarship slot.

As it turns out, it did not have the upside that Bloom thought. By the time he realized that Stank was nowhere even near a mediocre QB, 4-5 games had already run the course. Best move Bloom had was to get the younger players reps instead of 'win-inflation' (which at that point was not going to happen, no way, no how).

Here is hoping for the absolute best for TJ both in baseball upcoming (if that is to be the case) and to wherever the next stop for football takes him.

Sounds pretty reasonable. To some extent it explains how the QB who started the season as 1-B stood on the sideline and watched 1-A, C, D, E, and F play.

It’s like everyone forgets that “1-B” came in after 1-A and produced a fumble and interception on something like 3 plays. The younger guys all looked more prepared in their starts than that, even with some ill advised throws.

It's like everyone forgets he was named 1-b after a spring and fall of Bloom watching him in practice and in the spring game.

It's like bringing in a kid to pinch hit, watching him strike out on three pitches, and benching him forever.

(11-30-2018 10:54 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  It's like bringing in a kid to pinch hit, watching him strike out on three pitches, and benching him forever.

I've seen that happen way too many times. All coaches have their favorites. Sometimes it's based on performance. Sometimes it's based on personalities. And sometimes it's based on comments about the coaches grandmother. (snarky reference to an early season post.)

I've also seen the reverse way too many times. Kid gets chance after chance and strikes out repeatedly, but coach keeps going to him because there was that one time...

(11-30-2018 01:27 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:54 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  It's like bringing in a kid to pinch hit, watching him strike out on three pitches, and benching him forever.

I've seen that happen way too many times. All coaches have their favorites. Sometimes it's based on performance. Sometimes it's based on personalities. And sometimes it's based on comments about the coaches grandmother. (snarky reference to an early season post.)

I've also seen the reverse way too many times. Kid gets chance after chance and strikes out repeatedly, but coach keeps going to him because there was that one time...

I remember the OG sticking with a kid named Friday, long after us experts on the Parliament had given up on him.

Agree. I guess the point I should have made, but didn't, is that there was a reason the coach called on him to PH in the first place. Maybe he impressed in practice, or had a big HS resume, whatever. There were reasons he was called on, just as there were reasons Tyner was 1-B. If he had looked that bad in the spring and/or in practice, why wasn't he E, F, or G? Or TE?

(I ain't got ESP or ESPN or nuthin, but it looks like the Ghost has a believer........ even if it's just a itty bitty bit.)

ABO was stupid. No idea about ABO II - I have been ignoring it.

One thing that bugs me a little. I hate that you are dragging the good name of a former coach down into the muck.