(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) LSU
7) Ohio State
8) Michigan
9) UCF

Ohio State would bump past LSU next week with another quality win and a conference championship. I do not see how they pass Oklahoma if they beat Texas or Georgia unless Bama demolishes them. The Big 10 really needed a highly ranked western division winner this year to give the conference title game more muster.

(11-25-2018 10:57 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) LSU
7) Ohio State
8) Michigan
9) UCF

Ohio State would bump past LSU next week with another quality win and a conference championship. I do not see how they pass Oklahoma if they beat Texas or Georgia unless Bama demolishes them. The Big 10 really needed a highly ranked western division winner this year to give the conference title game more muster.

You must have gone to bed sometime before LSU lost in the 7th overtime.

(11-25-2018 11:22 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 10:57 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) LSU
7) Ohio State
8) Michigan
9) UCF

Ohio State would bump past LSU next week with another quality win and a conference championship. I do not see how they pass Oklahoma if they beat Texas or Georgia unless Bama demolishes them. The Big 10 really needed a highly ranked western division winner this year to give the conference title game more muster.

You must have gone to bed sometime before LSU lost in the 7th overtime.

Total brain collapse on my part, bullet... thank you for not roasting me! Redo:

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) Ohio State
7) Michigan
8) UCF

I still think the committee will keep UCF below Michigan for this week. I think UCF's only chance is if Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio State all lose by significant margins and they beat Memphis next week by a significant margin.

(11-25-2018 03:10 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 11:22 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 10:57 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) LSU
7) Ohio State
8) Michigan
9) UCF

Ohio State would bump past LSU next week with another quality win and a conference championship. I do not see how they pass Oklahoma if they beat Texas or Georgia unless Bama demolishes them. The Big 10 really needed a highly ranked western division winner this year to give the conference title game more muster.

You must have gone to bed sometime before LSU lost in the 7th overtime.

Total brain collapse on my part, bullet... thank you for not roasting me! Redo:

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Georgia
5) Oklahoma
6) Ohio State
7) Michigan
8) UCF

I still think the committee will keep UCF below Michigan for this week. I think UCF's only chance is if Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio State all lose by significant margins and they beat Memphis next week by a significant margin.

That's pretty close to what I came up with using a composite of six different ranking services, some human some computer. The only difference is reversing Notre Dame and Georgia.

Barring major upsets this week, this may be the most lopsided year to date for the NY6. In addition to the 8 schools listed above, it is likely that the four additional schools in the top 12 would be Washington, Penn State, Florida and LSU.

That would give the SEC and B1G 7 of the 12 spots. No other conference has more than 1. That is the absolute minimum result possible by contract. I don't think this is what the Big 12, ACC and PAC envisioned five years ago. For that matter, it's probably not what the Rose Bowl envisioned either.

(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

If, Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State win, then it will be :

1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Ohio State

Ohio State will jump any one else in front of them if they beat Northwestern.

(11-27-2018 04:26 PM)ken d Wrote:  Barring major upsets this week, this may be the most lopsided year to date for the NY6. In addition to the 8 schools listed above, it is likely that the four additional schools in the top 12 would be Washington, Penn State, Florida and LSU.

That would give the SEC and B1G 7 of the 12 spots. No other conference has more than 1. That is the absolute minimum result possible by contract. I don't think this is what the Big 12, ACC and PAC envisioned five years ago. For that matter, it's probably not what the Rose Bowl envisioned either.

As it turns out, the top 4, the top 8 and the top 12 teams according to a composite of six rating services are identical to the the teams chosen by the Selection Committee. So, tell me again, why do we need the committee at all?

(11-25-2018 09:21 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Anyone care to speculate on where Ohio St, Oklahoma, UCF, and Georgia will be ranked now that the regular season is complete?

Well it's already out.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Georgia

5. Oklahoma
6. Ohio State

(11-24-2018 12:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The fact that the G5 signed up for this seems to be lost on many on this forum.

It's not lost, but it is positioned as a deal that was made a gunpoint.

(11-28-2018 06:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 12:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The fact that the G5 signed up for this seems to be lost on many on this forum.

It's not lost, but it is positioned as a deal that was made a gunpoint.

Perhaps, but you can always choose to be shot rather than give in to the shooter. They could’ve said “screw that” and did their own thing.

(11-28-2018 11:05 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 12:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The fact that the G5 signed up for this seems to be lost on many on this forum.

It's not lost, but it is positioned as a deal that was made a gunpoint.

Perhaps, but you can always choose to be shot rather than give in to the shooter. They could’ve said “screw that” and did their own thing.

They could have, but I believe they realized that what they were being offered was a better deal than anything they could have gotten on their own. The converse to the G5 saying "screw that" could just as easily have been a "screw you" by the P5 conferences. Instead they gave them a sweetheart deal to avoid a fight they (the P5) would have won.

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True, it's better, but there's a downside:

1) Most years, you're Not going to get the Top G5. Especially if/when B12 expands to actually 12 teams and takes 2 of the best G5s (UCF/Cinci/Houston/Boise/SDSU), you're going to even get it Less Often too. No G5s making it most years, being #10-12 undefeated in Non-repeated years is going to cause More Issues. If UCF wasn't the Top G5 last year, they Certainly would not be #8 this year. In a nutshell, you'd have to make it so that the Top G5 Conf winner would have to be in the Top 16... and also require auto-bids for Top P5s the same courtesy.

2) Even with a Top G5 in with leeway (or very possibly Not) -- you're taking away 50% of the "elite" schools going to BCS aka NY bowls. You're reducing the big stage from 12 teams to 8. Yeah, yeah, you can still have some "great bowls" aside from said playoff -- but no, it's not going to bring nearly the big $ draw that the current BCS/NY bowls bring now. It's pretty cut & dry. Less teams "rewarded".

3) Side Note: We'd also not want an 8 team playoff to be stacked with the same conference teams. It'd make conference championships have less weight, unnecessarily. Didn't win your conference and couldn't make it? Oh, your conference is Too Tough? Well try and get 2nd place for crying out loud -- or move to another conference. IMO, 2-team MAX from the same conference, where 3rd best in your conf would have to be in the Top 4.

So it'd be a BAD idea if you required Top 8 no-matter-what (excluding Top G5s most of the time) + 50% less rewarded teams in "big stage" play.

It would be worth it for an almost-guarantee of Top G5. Basically, if they're undefeated or 1L with a tough schedule, they'll make the Top 16. Less teams "rewarded" with a big stage, tho.

You could take the NY6, and just make a playoff out of that, giving the Top 4 a bye. Problem with that, it's an extra week of playoffs, even with the Top 4 getting a rest. But I put this on the same scale as an 8-team playoff (3 weeks), if a Top 16 G5 Conf Winner gets an auto-bid.

The way to get multiple G5 champs in would be a de facto 16. Make the P5 ccgs a play-in. Winner in. Loser out. That's 5 teams out of 8. Then have a mid-December play-in with 3 G5 champs and 3 wildcards who were NOT division champs. Officially its 11 teams, but practically its 16. It also means no P5 team would play more than 16 games (12 + ccg OR play-in + quarterfinal + semi-final + final). And G5 would have to unexpectedly get to title game to play 17.

This year it would mean 1. Alabama, 2. Clemson, 4. Oklahoma, 6. Ohio St., 9. Washington would be in. Play-in games would be 3. Notre Dame vs. Appalachian St. (or UAB), 7. Michigan vs. 21. Fresno St., 8. UCF vs. 10. Florida. Georgia would be out with their loss in the SEC ccg.

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