Date: November 11th, 2018

Time: 1:30 PM

Opponent: Creighton (1-0, 0-0 Big East)

Place: CHI Health Center Omaha (17,352)

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Back to serious D1 basketball as the Bucs go once again from the sublime to the ridiculous (or vice versa).

In Big East member Creighton the Bucs face their highest rated OOC opponent: #33 in Kenpom to #85 for Illinois and #89 for Georgia State. #73 in SI to #86 for Georgia State and #98 for Illinois. The Big East Coaches poll picks them for 9th in the still powerful Big East.

But Creighton is coming off a first game in which they struggled to fend off Western Illinois, 78-67. Western was 12-16 last year and ranked dead last in the Summit League both last year and this preseason.

The Bluejays only field 2 guys over 6-5: Slovenian star Martin Krampelj, 6-9 235 JR, who can score inside or out and rebound; and 14 minute role player 7-0 230 Australian FR Samson Froling.

They shot 9-20 (.478) from 3 against Western with half a dozen guys putting them up, including 6-9 Krampelj and 7-0 Froling. They are probably even better long range shooters than GA State, but don’t have as much athleticism going to the hoop as guys like Simonds, although 6-4 194 So. Ty-Shon Alexander comes close. Fortunately, there aren’t many guys like Simonds.

They went 9 deep against Western with 30 bench points and 23 bench rebounds. 6-5 200 So Damien Jefferson was a key to providing physical, athletic defense, rebounding (12 boards) and inside scoring off the bench for Creighton.

If we thought that home court helped Georgia State, well these guys put 16,449 in their arena last game (they average over 17,000), and in their last game shot 20 free throws to their opponent’s 9. Get used to it, play smart and play through it.

They played tight second half defense against Western Illinois, holding them to .324 FG% and .214 from 3 to turn a 2 point game into a 16 point lead before Western closed it back up a bit.

Despite the relative lack of size they out rebounded Western by 46 to 40. But the Bucs have been rebounding pretty well themselves. Armus, Rodriguez and Harrison should all be able to take it to the rim against the slightly smaller Jays.

The Bluejays might also be peeking ahead in their schedule to meeting Ohio State November 15. Stats cited below are from the opener with Western Illinois.

Guards:
#01 MINTZ, Davion, 6-3 185 JR: 25 min., 10 points on 2-3 from 3, 5 rebounds
#05 ALEXANDER, Ty-Shon, 6-4 195 SO: 36 min., 12 points on 3-7 from 3, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 t.o.’s
#24 BALLOCK, Mitch, 6-5 205 SO: 33 min., 13 points on 3-7 from 3, 5 assists, 1 t.o., 2 steals
#11 ZEGAROWSKI, Marcus, 6-2 180 FR: 18 min., 9 points on 1-2 from 3, 4 rebounds
#14 JOSEPH, Kaleb, 6-3 185 SR: 15 min., 9 points, 0 3’s
#02 CASHAW, Connor, 6-5 200 SR: 10 min., 0 points, 2 rebounds, 4 t.o.’s, 2 stls

Front Court:
#15 KRAMPELJ, Martin 6-9 235 JR f: 26 min., 13 points, 1-2 from 3, 7 rebounds
#23 JEFFERSON, Damien 6-5 200 SO g/f: 23 min., 8 points, 0 3’s 12 rebounds
#31 FROLING, Samson 7-0 230 FR C: 14 min., 5 points on 2-5, 1-1 from 3, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 t.o.’s, 1 block

(11-09-2018 08:04 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote:  Back to serious D1 basketball as the Bucs go once again from the sublime to the ridiculous (or vice versa).

In Big East member Creighton the Bucs face their highest rated OOC opponent: #33 in Kenpom to #85 for Illinois and #89 for Georgia State. #73 in SI to #86 for Georgia State and #98 for Illinois. The Big East Coaches poll picks them for 9th in the still powerful Big East.

But Creighton is coming off a first game in which they struggled to fend off Western Illinois, 78-67. Western was 12-16 last year and ranked dead last in the Summit League both last year and this preseason.

The Bluejays only field 2 guys over 6-5: Slovenian star Martin Krampelj, 6-9 235 JR, who can score inside or out and rebound; and 14 minute role player 7-0 230 Australian FR Samson Froling.

They shot 9-20 (.478) from 3 against Western with half a dozen guys putting them up, including 6-9 Krampelj and 7-0 Froling. They are probably even better long range shooters than GA State, but don’t have as much athleticism going to the hoop as guys like Simonds, although 6-4 194 So. Ty-Shon Alexander comes close. Fortunately, there aren’t many guys like Simonds.

They went 9 deep against Western with 30 bench points and 23 bench rebounds. 6-5 200 So Damien Jefferson was a key to providing physical, athletic defense, rebounding (12 boards) and inside scoring off the bench for Creighton.

If we thought that home court helped Georgia State, well these guys put 16,449 in their arena, and in their last game shot 20 free throws to their opponent’s 9. Get used to it, play smart and play through it.

They played tight second half defense against Western Illinois, holding them to .324 FG% and .214 from 3 to turn a 2 point game into a 16 point lead before Western closed it back up a bit.

Despite the relative lack of size they out rebounded Western by 46 to 40. But the Bucs have been rebounding pretty well themselves. Armus, Rodriguez and Harrison should all be able to take it to the rim against the slightly smaller Jays.

The Bluejays might also be peeking ahead in their schedule to meeting Ohio State November 15. Stats cited below are from the opener with Western Illinois.

Guards:
#01 MINTZ, Davion, 6-3 185 JR: 25 min., 10 points on 2-3 from 3, 5 rebounds
#05 ALEXANDER, Ty-Shon, 6-4 195 SO: 36 min., 12 points on 3-7 from 3, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 t.o.’s
#24 BALLOCK, Mitch, 6-5 205 SO: 33 min., 13 points on 3-7 from 3, 5 assists, 1 t.o., 2 steals
#11 ZEGAROWSKI, Marcus, 6-2 180 FR: 18 min., 9 points on 1-2 from 3, 4 rebounds
#14 JOSEPH, Kaleb, 6-3 185 SR: 15 min., 9 points, 0 3’s
#02 CASHAW, Connor, 6-5 200 SR: 10 min., 0 points, 2 rebounds, 4 t.o.’s, 2 stls

Front Court:
#15 KRAMPELJ, Martin 6-9 235 JR f: 26 min., 13 points, 1-2 from 3, 7 rebounds
#23 JEFFERSON, Damien 6-5 200 SO g/f: 23 min., 8 points, 0 3’s 12 rebounds
#31 FROLING, Samson 7-0 230 FR C: 14 min., 5 points on 2-5, 1-1 from 3, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 t.o.’s, 1 block

As Coach Forbes said on the radio after the game, with due respect to Georgia State, they don't score the ball as well as Creighton.

Creighton hasn't lost an out of conference game to an unranked team at home since December of 2015, which was Arizona St. They haven't lost one in general since that same week on December 5th against Loyola in Chicago. Hopefully this game is as big to this team as the Xavier game was last year.

Peter lit them up early in the game last year, I miss him playing but I enjoy not stressing every time his stone hands touch the ball. However Mladen's handles aren't fantastic so far

(11-09-2018 11:01 AM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  Creighton hasn't lost an out of conference game to an unranked team at home since December of 2015, which was Arizona St. They haven't lost one in general since that same week on December 5th against Loyola in Chicago. Hopefully this game is as big to this team as the Xavier game was last year.

Peter lit them up early in the game last year, I miss him playing but I enjoy not stressing every time his stone hands touch the ball. However Mladen's handles aren't fantastic so far

They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

Last year at home they were 16-2, losing by 1 to Xavier (71-72), and by 4 to Marquette (86-90). They beat eventual national champion Villanova in overtime 89-83, although losing to them on the road.

It's a tough place to play. But it is also a winnable game for the Bucs against a team that is not as good as last year, and Forbes is right to try to approach these games that way.

(11-09-2018 11:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-09-2018 11:01 AM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  Creighton hasn't lost an out of conference game to an unranked team at home since December of 2015, which was Arizona St. They haven't lost one in general since that same week on December 5th against Loyola in Chicago. Hopefully this game is as big to this team as the Xavier game was last year.

Peter lit them up early in the game last year, I miss him playing but I enjoy not stressing every time his stone hands touch the ball. However Mladen's handles aren't fantastic so far

They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

I don't believe so as Coach Forbes said we were being paid for this game which I don't think would be the case for a home and home.

(11-09-2018 12:03 PM)BigIslandBuc Wrote:  

(11-09-2018 11:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-09-2018 11:01 AM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  Creighton hasn't lost an out of conference game to an unranked team at home since December of 2015, which was Arizona St. They haven't lost one in general since that same week on December 5th against Loyola in Chicago. Hopefully this game is as big to this team as the Xavier game was last year.

Peter lit them up early in the game last year, I miss him playing but I enjoy not stressing every time his stone hands touch the ball. However Mladen's handles aren't fantastic so far

They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

I don't believe so as Coach Forbes said we were being paid for this game which I don't think would be the case for a home and home.

If they really do have 18,000 fans at the game, they can afford to pay a decent opponent to come play there. A home-and-home wouldn’t make sense for them.

(11-09-2018 11:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-09-2018 11:01 AM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  Creighton hasn't lost an out of conference game to an unranked team at home since December of 2015, which was Arizona St. They haven't lost one in general since that same week on December 5th against Loyola in Chicago. Hopefully this game is as big to this team as the Xavier game was last year.

Peter lit them up early in the game last year, I miss him playing but I enjoy not stressing every time his stone hands touch the ball. However Mladen's handles aren't fantastic so far

They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

And, what the h is North Carolina doing? They’re breaking all the scheduling rules and protocol. Traveling to Wofford AND Elon this season? Are these guilt trips in that they somehow escaped punishment for that massive academic fraud scandal where the men’s basketball program was front and center?

(11-09-2018 11:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

Not only are they not coming to Freedom Hall (unless it's the one in Louisville, by chance), Georgia St. isn't either. On that thread someone thought that series was a home-and-home. It's not.

(11-10-2018 09:43 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(11-09-2018 11:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  They’ll be coming to Freedom Hall next season?

Not only are they not coming to Freedom Hall (unless it's the one in Louisville, by chance), Georgia St. isn't either. On that thread someone thought that series was a home-and-home. It's not.

Should never have played Ga State unless it was a home-and-home deal. Who are they trying to pretend to be, Ga Tech up the street?

I don't care if it's a money issue. These teams are still afraid of us.

(11-10-2018 11:31 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  I don't care if it's a money issue. These teams are still afraid of us.

I think that is the truth of the matter. I do not believe either that it is centered around money. They just do not want to play us.

I know this is off the subject but whatever happened to Tre Tiller? Anybody know

(11-11-2018 10:12 AM)James Wilson Wrote:  I know this is off the subject but whatever happened to Tre Tiller? Anybody know

Has to sit out this year due to transfer rules I believe.

(11-11-2018 11:01 AM)Bucs06 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 10:12 AM)James Wilson Wrote:  I know this is off the subject but whatever happened to Tre Tiller? Anybody know

Has to sit out this year due to transfer rules I believe.

He is a walkon, it lists a High School on his page, no college so where did he transfer from? It says he will be a walkon this year nothing about sitting out. He was on the bench in street clothes last game.

(11-11-2018 11:19 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 11:01 AM)Bucs06 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 10:12 AM)James Wilson Wrote:  I know this is off the subject but whatever happened to Tre Tiller? Anybody know

Has to sit out this year due to transfer rules I believe.

He is a walkon, it lists a High School on his page, no college so where did he transfer from? It says he will be a walkon this year nothing about sitting out. He was on the bench in street clothes last game.

Tennessee Wesleyan? Apparently Tre Tiller played his first 2 years at Tennessee Wesleyan and scored 25 against UTC in December of 2016.

As noted in other threads, Tre Tiller spent two years at Tennessee Wesleyan. That's in the NAIA DII Appalachian Athletic Conference, home of Milligan, Bluefield and others. He was first team All AAC in 2017. http://www.twcbulldogs.com/roster/13/2/3568.php

There is no record of him playing in 2017-2018. I don't know what his transfer status is, whether he has to sit out a year as a DII transfer, or whether there is an academic qualification issue that will take a semester.

(11-11-2018 11:27 AM)BucDoctor Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 11:19 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 11:01 AM)Bucs06 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 10:12 AM)James Wilson Wrote:  I know this is off the subject but whatever happened to Tre Tiller? Anybody know

Has to sit out this year due to transfer rules I believe.

He is a walkon, it lists a High School on his page, no college so where did he transfer from? It says he will be a walkon this year nothing about sitting out. He was on the bench in street clothes last game.

Tennessee Wesleyan? Apparently Tre Tiller played his first 2 years at Tennessee Wesleyan and scored 25 against UTC in December of 2016.

He is a junior so figured he played somewhere, strange it doesn't list it. They have listed colleges for other walkons.