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RE: SEC Week Seven
(10-15-2018 08:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:33 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 04:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 03:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Locke has awesome natural talent, but sometimes plays like he is still in Jr High. He is a very streaky player and he has a real problem with understanding defenses, reads, etc. He makes terrible decisions. He fumbles instead of just taking the sack, and later takes the snap in the end zone and just stands there and takes a safety. Defenses read him and pick him off weekly. There is no chance this kid is ready for the NFL. Not even close. Yes, Alabama is tough, but so are the New England Patriots. They will eat his lunch. He reminds me of Cutler.

That may be true, but he's better than Stidham.
I would trade him for Hurt in a minute. Do you think Gus will lose his job if you lose 4-5 games? People are grumbling.

His contract is 7 million a year for 7 years and will have 6 years remaining at the end of the year, so no. It was the parting gift of the worst A.D. to ever serve Auburn, Jay Jacobs.
.....unless another major school offers Gus a HC job. But no school is going to offer him that kind of money for that long.

It could turn into a nasty situation. Major fan and booster discontent will negatively impact attendance and thus, recruiting.

Wouldn't Auburn's President and BoT have had to approve Jacob's contract proposal for Gus? Rubber-stamping such looks problematic if that is how it happened.

Lou Saban, Dabo Swinney, Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, and Chip Kelly, and perhaps a couple of others can demand that kind of money. Gus has those up and down seasons that don't appear to warrant such. Auburn is capable of attracting the finest.

You're showing your age OF. Lou Saban quit coaching a long long time ago in the NFL.
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RE: SEC Week Seven
(10-15-2018 08:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-15-2018 08:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:33 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 04:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That may be true, but he's better than Stidham.
I would trade him for Hurt in a minute. Do you think Gus will lose his job if you lose 4-5 games? People are grumbling.

His contract is 7 million a year for 7 years and will have 6 years remaining at the end of the year, so no. It was the parting gift of the worst A.D. to ever serve Auburn, Jay Jacobs.
.....unless another major school offers Gus a HC job. But no school is going to offer him that kind of money for that long.

It could turn into a nasty situation. Major fan and booster discontent will negatively impact attendance and thus, recruiting.

Wouldn't Auburn's President and BoT have had to approve Jacob's contract proposal for Gus? Rubber-stamping such looks problematic if that is how it happened.

Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, and Chip Kelly, and perhaps a couple of others can demand that kind of money. Gus has those up and down seasons that don't appear to warrant such. Auburn is capable of attracting the finest.

You're showing your age OF. Lou Saban quit coaching a long long time ago in the NFL.
During the night, I actually realized the error. It is the short term memory that gets compromised. Perhaps shall elaborate in a PM sometime.
I think what you were noting earlier, is that GM is the type of coach that sticks to the game plan regardless. We've seen "Nick" on the rare occasions he needs to, change things up, which can be big adjustments in strategy.
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RE: SEC Week Seven
(10-16-2018 08:21 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(10-15-2018 08:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-15-2018 08:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 10:33 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  I would trade him for Hurt in a minute. Do you think Gus will lose his job if you lose 4-5 games? People are grumbling.

His contract is 7 million a year for 7 years and will have 6 years remaining at the end of the year, so no. It was the parting gift of the worst A.D. to ever serve Auburn, Jay Jacobs.
.....unless another major school offers Gus a HC job. But no school is going to offer him that kind of money for that long.

It could turn into a nasty situation. Major fan and booster discontent will negatively impact attendance and thus, recruiting.

Wouldn't Auburn's President and BoT have had to approve Jacob's contract proposal for Gus? Rubber-stamping such looks problematic if that is how it happened.

Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, and Chip Kelly, and perhaps a couple of others can demand that kind of money. Gus has those up and down seasons that don't appear to warrant such. Auburn is capable of attracting the finest.

You're showing your age OF. Lou Saban quit coaching a long long time ago in the NFL.
During the night, I actually realized the error. It is the short term memory that gets compromised. Perhaps shall elaborate in a PM sometime.
I think what you were noting earlier, is that GM is the type of coach that sticks to the game plan regardless. We've seen "Nick" on the rare occasions he needs to, change things up, which can be big adjustments in strategy.

I'm familiar with the short term memory thing. I have to concentrate to pull up a name of somebody I know well, but for me it usually only happens when I'm in an unfamiliar place. For some reason if I return to a city I haven't lived in for years, just being back in that city brings all of the names related to that city back. But when I see someone who is in the wrong place for the association it can be difficult to remember them. And when I'm trying to recall the name I remember all others who had the same last name. It's like the filing system of the brain is doesn't have enough familiar information to pull the file. I knew who you meant, but being old enough Lou Saban immediately triggered Buffalo to me.

The issue with Gus is he doesn't have strategies. He has a system of plays, that are his by design, and he doesn't abandon them. The issue is when they don't work it's because he doesn't have the right kind of athlete executing them. He needs a QB with great speed and the ability to run the ball to make his scheme work. My problem with him from the start is he doesn't find and sign them. Newton was a JUCO from Blynn and Marshall a retread from UGA. None of the other kids we've tried at QB had the skill sets to run it and therefore it flops, particularly when either the vertical passing game isn't working, or when the single RB with size is lacking, or injured.

The reason we are floundering now is that Whitlow is injured and it's worse since Gus played him injured (as he's done with Pettway and Johnson) and there is no QB development. Stidham still makes the same mistakes he did when he came here. Poor Jeremy Johnson had all of the ability to be successful but never was developed. Had he played for Mullen he would have been at least all SEC, if not all American. We played him as a freshman, didn't develop him, and he lost all confidence.

These are the unforgivable mistakes to me. You don't play injured players and you have to be able to develop talent, heck the latter issue is all about what it means to be a coach in the first place! I see Gus as a guy who developed an interesting offense, but who has little coaching or management ability. He made for a good OC but to make him work in that position you need a solid QB coach, and a head coach that hires a solid DC and knows how to manage the personalities of the other coaches. Saban is a solid CEO in that he knows what he wants and hires competent people to get it done. Gus has run through coaching personnel because he doesn't know enough about each position to know who a good hire is. He stumbled into Steele.
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I can remember having chicken pox when I was two years old, but cannot remember where I set my coffee cup down in my house. lol
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